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Trivial I know but I have to say that although the stairwell fight followed by Bond patching himself up in the mirror is one of my favourite scenes of the series, every time I see it I can't help knocking off 2 or 3% due to the close up of Dan's blonde, nay nearer ginger, eyebrows.
If only they had been black it would've been a perfect Flemingian moment.
No way, Moore was the undisputed soft, puffy anti-Bond and an embarrassment to the franchise. There is not one memorable Moore fight in his entire run. The definition of a Moore action sequence is to cut to a stuntman the majority of the time.
I used to think the same, about Brosnan being the worst. Though I still don't like seeing Bond in a BMW; he either looked like a hairdresser (Z3/Z8) or a banker (750iL).
And for what it's worth, Craig's hair colour really isn't a problem for me. It's the portrayal (both in performance and writing) of his Bond that I find so unappealing.
Good rant! Bravo!
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TSWLM
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TWINE
SF
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong. DN and CR are exonerated. Newman had better get it right - Morse code for the dots is essential.
The FYEO gunbarrel and score rocks. Hard. I have no issue with Conti - he preserved the structure of it. As did Serra. Kamen did the best interpretation.
Also, in terms of musical complains, Arnold's little stingers are always funny. The little piano bit with Brozzer's "Huh?!" in TWINE ("No point in living if you can't feel alive") and more recently the one when Medrano turns around to face Greene again when he announces they want to own the empty patch of desert. Yuck.
Agreed.
Well here goes then. My rant on TWINE
Many have a go at DAD, but in my humble opinion, this utter shambles of an entry was chiefly responsible for accelerating Brosnan’s exit from the franchise & the eventual reboot. DAD just delivered the kick off the cliff.
One of the most embarrassing attempts at adding ‘depth’ to the Bond universe in its 50 year history, it’s a moronic cheesefest display of the first order that has the audacity to take itself seriously. It should be looked upon for what it is, a snoozefest travesty of near epic proportions.
Issues (starting with the worst for me at the top):
1. PB's acting - forced in so many ways. He delivers all the lines poorly, starting with the banker's office: "Perhaps you failed to take into account my...hidden assets." etc. Followed later by "uhh......he was buried with work" and even later by the infamous "Huh" moment when told by Renard of Electra's betrayal. In all instances he almost grimaces when delivering the lines. Awful. Nearly every 'tick' in his acting repertoire was up on the screen for us to see.
2. PB's facial expressions are almost tragi-comic in this one. From the aforementioned line deliveries to other scenes where he contorts his face in order to deliver supposed acting depth. Like in the final scene when he tells Renard that Electra is dead. Watch that scene carefully and please tell me why he has that face on. It's like he's trying to take a dump.
I lked PB in GE, TND & even in DAD, but he truly blew it here.
3. The high-school triangle romance that develops between Bond, Electra & Renard. Horribly done, and I honestly cannot watch the Baku confrontation scene with Electra without shifting uncomfortably in my seat. "Knew where to hurt me......cannot feel alive.....no point in living......" Bloody hell! What is this melodramatic garbage. Moreover it is Bond who was overdramatic and who looked like and acted like the school kid here, not anyone else.
4. Denise Richards. Horribly miscast and I actually like her in other movies (like Wild Things). Why did they pick her and why did they cast her in the role of nuclear physicist except as some kind of joke perhaps? Were they trying to make us suspend disbelief? People have a go at Halle, but this is pretty close to the bottom of the pile in my opinion.
5. Renard - Roberty Carlyle. Has there ever been a more boring villain in the franchise. This guy makes Almaric's Greene seem exciting. He is built up to be an 'anarchist'....a man who can feel no pain. I was hoping for quite a villain. When he finally appears he's quite insipid. So he can hold burning rocks.....big wow.......and I'm quite sure I saw him grimacing on several occasions when in fights with Bond. One of the franchise's worst.
6. Other villains - some of the most unmemorable in the franchise's history.
Davidov – truly boring and has the unfortunate distinction of being shot in cold blood by Bond and thrown in a dumpster.
Bullion? Who is this clown? Please tell me they're being serious. We've gone from Jaws to this goof? Only Elvis was worse.
7. The Action scenes - my word, where to begin...a series of truly sleep inducing by the numbers sequences that are lifeless, flat and tacked on.
First is a ski sequence which embarrasses a series that was heretofor known for doing them exceptionally well. Poorly edited and choreographed and as dull as they come, it’s known foremost for that fact that 3 of the parahawks take themselves out without any help from Bond.
There is also a drab scene in a caviar factory which serves as yet another advertisement for the latest BMW model and yet another showcase for Brosnan’s ability to run around with a gun in his hand. It’s hard to believe that an attack featuring helicopters sporting dangling circular saw blades can be so sleep inducing on screen. I remember the scene chiefly for the fact that said helicopters hovered inexplicably in the same place for ridiculously long periods of time, allowing Bond to run to his car and get a missile lock on one, and to blast the other one with a flare gun.
Sandwiched in between these action disgraces is an encounter with a villain in an underground nuclear facility that I remember primarily for Bond running, jumping & sommersaulting around like an idiot.
There was absolutly no tension in any of these scenes.
8. M - This was the entry that started the unfortunate trend of including more scenes of that national treasure, Judi Dench. Whoever came up with this bright idea needs to be fired, preferably with cause. It is something that we have had to endure for another painful 13 years, until she was finally dispatched, with my gratitude, in SF.
M makes so many mistakes in this movie, apparently guided by her 'mother' (I'm shifting in my seat again as I remember the drama) instincts. This is the head of MI6? Please... I'm surprised she wasn't fired after this.
The only saving grace for me is Sophie Marceau as Electra King. This woman is full out crazy & megalomaniacal, and Sophie plays her for all it’s worth, reveling in her lunacy. One of the series’ best IMO, and it’s very unfortunate that her excellent performance was in this particular shambles of a movie.
Ultimately it's hokey tripe & I can't watch it without feeling annoyed.
There. I've let it all out. I'm done.
I used to think I didnt mind TWINE too much but I find it very hard to argue with a single word of this. Do you fancy having a crack at DAD now just for my own entertainment?
I don't think there's anything wrong with stating one's opinion as long as you're not being rude to anyone. There's politeness and then there's cheerleading, which ignores critical thinking.
In fact, I saw DAD a few weeks back and realized I actually enjoy watching it for what it is. Mindless, dumb entertainment that can't be taken too seriously. Many (including yourself) have critiqued that one far better than I could.
TWINE on the other hand, I personally just can't stand for all the above reasons and I just had to let it out. Quite therapeutic as I feel much better now.
This is a Bond fan forum, cheerleading goes with the territory. You'll find many if not all people in here show a level of critical thinking at times, but most members allow themselves to indulge in a little subjectivity. It's hard to quantify one's obsessions at times. I would highly recommend joining a general film forum if you want to debate everything on an objective level.
(Damn, just realised that's a positive)
Agreed. I hate him in TWINE - hes only there for laughs and pretty lame laughs at that - apart from his death scene which is quite a nice moment between the two.
Hes not too bad in GE apart from one moment that really winds me up - how can he tell that he has a Walther PPK trained on the back of his head? Its miles out of his field of vision, has he got 360 degree eyesight like a fly? If youre trying to tell me he can tell a make and model of gun just from the sound of it cocking I'm not having it.
Well, that's your opinion, so now you want to censor critical thinking on any level, even on a thread about negativity? If you don't feel like you don't want to defend or debate your point of view, that's fine. You don't need to quantify your opinions, but stopping others from expressing theirs is wrong.
I agree. I'm just dubious about one thing - does the dictionary definition of 'critical thinking' state: 'regurgitating verbatim everything you read on Rotten Tomatoes'?
Where did I say anything about censoring critical thinking? I just said you should expect cheerleading on this site, so you might as well stop worrying about it. It happens.
Yeah, he's nowhere near as good in TWINE, there was spunk to him in GE, in TWINE he comes across as a quite vanilla, he doesn't seem to have the edge.