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Totally agree. Everyone praise Craig's Bond for his vulnerability but who here genuinely feels sorry for someone who can seduce any woman and smash through walls and jump off buildings without getting a scratch. Dalton is actually helped by the fact that he's not built like a shithouse. He's quite normal looking, just a bit wolf like from certain angles. The Fleming Bond wasn't that impressive to look at. This whole power fantasy "men want to be him, women want to be on him" is purely a cinematic invention. Dalton isn't very sexy or strong, and IMO that makes him a better more authentic character.
You read my mind with this, that's what ive always been thinking.
I only would say that Dalton gave a great performance in bith films and with script and actors well they got them write the problem was the production design and score which gave it a tv movie vibe with a better production design and budget the films would have been much better
Right back at you. Well explained.
Newman's score could have been more Bond-ish I agree. I would disagree about suspense, the track 'Jellyfish' very well accompanies the scene where Bond follows Patrice in the skyscraper, and 'Welcome to Scotland' made the attack on Skyfall very dark and foreboding. But he definitely needs to use the Bond theme more. The cut and paste job for SP is also disappointing.
Ehhh most will disagree but DAF, whilst still a great score - it is a Barry score - is I think one of his weaker efforts. Most moments scored very well. But the track used for the moon buggy sequence sounds like an irritating video game sound effect on repeat. It makes the scene even more embarrassing. That particular track is down there with 'Ladies First', IMO.
CR's objective is to show a vulnerable and emotional Bond. LTK's objective is simply to unnerve. Both actors portrayal of Bond work towards this.
I do agree that TLD is a better portrayal from Dalton though.
@IncompetentHenchman
Funny you should mention that. That was Guy Hamilton's insistence.
From "The Music of James Bond"
"...film's tone was much lighter...led to a difference of opinion on how the film's "Moon Buggy Chase should be handled...Hamilton to suggest a comic touch..."Wrong", said Barry...you can't spoof a spoof. [Barry's] theory is the music must play straight and pull in the audience, not play games with them. Hamilton wanted some fluffly, whimsical music."
Barry's original track for the chase is on the 2003 CD and is heard in the film towards the end of the chase
I've also learnt that many poor musical choices aren't Barry's decision. California girls, misplaced Bond theme at the start of piz gloria shoot out...
I respectfully don't agree. In the opinion of many myself included Dalton is too stiff and unnatural and the productions of both films are sub par.
But to quote Sanchez, "he has class".
...and I agree there. I am a Dalton fan. Not a John Glen fan.
Ughhh I despise Hamilton even more now. Thank you for enlightening me. And the Bond theme does sound a little misplaced somehow in OHMSS.
As cartoonish as Moonraker was, at least Gilbert had a sense of what Moore wanted to play Bond like. There was much more coordination in '77 and '79 than in '73 and '74, in my opinion.
That scene is terribly acted by Dalton. When I first saw the film way back in 89 this was the scene where I thought to myself, "He's crap in this!"
His big overdone sigh and the OTT way he cries "DELLA!" are bloody laughable.
That scene is superbly acted by Dalton. Why didn't he get an oscar for it?
That's a great score and he interweaves the Mission Impossible theme at the right times and doesn't overuse it.
Also liked the way he incorporated the opera music at later points in the film.
Watched it twice now. Gotta get my fix of Rebecca Ferguson....!
Completely agree. The strange thing is that Dalton was subtle and gave a great performance in TLD.
It makes his performance in LTK even more mystifying.
I think he made the old mistake of trying too hard in LTK.
I'm assuming that's a joke...?!!!
Certainly made me laugh!
I'm tempted to say I'm being deadly serious but as this isn't video I can't give you my deadly Daltonator stare to go with it.
The boat scene with Pam (" It's a tough business you picked, Miss Bouvier. - Leave it to the professionals!") also was discomfiting, but that was more on account of the writing, as was "Are you calling me a horse's arse?" from TLD.
Despite this, Dalton more than made up for it with his performance in other parts of both films, which was top notch. He came across quite 'real', if that makes sense.
Bang on the money.
I remember going in thinking this scene will be epic given his electric reaction in the Saunders death scene but then you just get 'DELLA' to some blonde bimbo who we've never met before but is such a close friend that she doesnt know about Tracy.
Awful.
Exactly. You'd have thought Felix would have mentioned it to her at some point so she didn't put her foot in it at their wedding!
I really wanted to like LTK and after the excellent TLD I had high hopes for it. I was bitterly disappointed with it way back then and even now find it hard to sit through.
A couple of things I did like was the pre-credits sequence, the Pam Bouvier character and the extended part for Q.
After the life changing experience with TLD I was left devastated with disappointment when I saw LTK at the cinema. I was young (15) and expected more of the same.
LTK was just too different and way too brutal.
It came at the wrong time I think.
The only other two Bond movies that left me totally disappointed were TWINE and SF.
Of course LTK is in my Top 10 nowadays. It was ahead of its time. Something I wish I could say about TWINE and SF but they are just plain boring and dreary.