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They're also reminders of government officialdom. As long as they wear suits in Whitehall I think Bond will spend the majority of his time in them.
Out of interest, how old are you?
Sad though. I personally believe that the Rolex Submariner is the definitive Bond watch (goes with anything and everything), but you're right - he probably won't wear one as Bond.
It is because Bond is very specific.
Fleming had him fastidious but very understated. This was for a reason. Yes, he was a British gentleman but he was also a man of the world and above all else, a secret agent.
This is why Ian didn't impose any of his own, more dandified affectations on him. He kept it simple, classy and elegant without being at all showy.
Of course, menswear has moved on enormously since Fleming's time but I think we should update Bond whilst sticking to his credo. After all, we are talking about 007. Not Hercule Poirot or Jason King!
Definitely. I think the modern trend of very slim-fitting suits will date relatively quickly.
Yeah Craig's definitely a fan of the AT models. The SF AT was actually made based on his requirements I believe and what's interesting, the 38.5mm 8500 appears bigger than its actual spec design. I originally bought the 41.5mm and after owning it for 3 weeks I returned it and swapped it for the 38.5, it just looks classier. Definitely pick it up when you can because it's a gorgeous piece that can also be worn with anything. I was in Nice a few months ago and I tell you, there's nothing quite like riding a jet ski, wearing a Bond watch and humming tge Bond theme out loud when your speeding about in the sea :D
As for Rolex there are some lovely l-lovely pieces. I'm loving the sub c. However, Rolex will remain the literary Bond watch which is a bit disappointing but Omega are doing a terrific job with their lineups. The PO was an instant classic from day one and the liquid metal version is one of the sexiest watches ever made.
Now, if only I could save up for an Aston :P
At first I kind of liked it as a reaction to the dark ages of the late 90s and early 00s when most men wore completely shapeless boxes, but it certainly went too far. Look at most of Connery's suits. They'd aged quite well. They're fitted and have narrow lapels and trousers, but aren't "skinny" in the modern sense.
PS: And I'd love it if Craig wore shirts with the Turnbull & Asser Connery/Moore (in LALD) upturned cuff (as in images below). haven't seen that in a while. Pure class.
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That's what I recall too.
Certainly. I personally would say A&S are way too relaxed and drapey. Something from Poole or Richard Anderson perhaps, or even back to Hayward on Mount.
You bring up one good point though, if round about. Menswear has moved on a lot, but the basic lounge suit has not. It's represented a continuum that has never really been seen before in style. In Regency England menswear changed literally by the week and even day, but once the lounge suit hit the scene about a century ago, it's been steadfast. The fact that it is based on specific proportions that flatter a man is really the only explanation I can really see being valid.
For sure. A well balanced suit is a lot more versatile. You could take one of Connery's first few suits and wear today without being noticed whatsoever. Moore's stuff, not so much.
So I want modern but with an Austrian touch for the sweaters, jacket, relaxing wear.
In general, I find the clothes Craig/Bond wears pretty much flawless. Yes, a suit does look corporate, but this is to be expected when traveling if you want to look like something else than a spy. But it is important that he does not wear a suit, especially not a tuxedo, for every occasion. Brosnan sometimes was IMO overly elegant. There should be some kind of sobriety with Bond's elegance. The villain, however, can be overly elegant. Especially if he does not have the body for it.
I think the biggest misstep with Pierce was going with Brioni. Bond is quintessentially British. Tom Ford has more of a British aesthetic at least. Brioni did do a better job in CR, though I think the QoS suits are the best of the contemporary era.
The suit is a pretty integral part of any upscale urban centre these days whether it be leisure or commerce, so there is really plenty of aesthetic space to operate in.
Didn't do much for me, but I'm not a fan of Italian tailoring in most circumstances. Good for really casual stuff because it's so relaxed in a lot of instances, but British stuff has a cleaner cut.
I agree that Brosnan looked good in his suits (one of his greatest assets IMO) but the materials were a little too 'Canali' for me. They appeared a little too delicate. Too light as is the Contintental style.
I personally prefer the more structured British cuts (two vents and all) as well, and as I said above, I'd love to see a return of the Turnbull & Asser cuff shirt.
A&S would be perfect for Craig's Bond.
When you have a physique like Daniel's you need a house style that will soften him and make him more sophisticated not truss him up like a thug.
Dougie Hayward would have done it in his day but sadly, he is no longer with us and anyway, his cut had a lot in common with the classic A&S.
The proportions are key and although all bespoke tailors will claim that they will change things to suit you, bespoke aficionados know that the greats are schooled in a house style that they will tailor that style for what they consider to be a perfect fit.
The fact remains that certain house styles favour certain physiques. Villieurs53 loves Chittleborough and Morgan on Charlie Watts but knows it's not for him. Richard Anderson and Richard James for that matter are great for tall, thin guys but don't IVNSHO do a thing when you are muscular with a stocky physique.
Going back to the watch debate, Fleming's Bond wouldn't have been seen stiff in one of those Omega abominations. Frankly they were always the poor man's Rolex and although Ian was never definitive about 007's exact model, the most detailed description in OHMSS would indicate that it was a 1953 white faced Rolex Oyster Perpetual with a luminous dial. The perfect discrete time piece that would be equally at home with a dining suit or diving suit. Again, the aim should be classy British discretion rather than looking like a Russian oligarch!
Agree 100%. My vote goes to the Submariner. Worked perfectly for Connery, Lazenby, Moore, & Dalton, in a suit or casual. The ultimate wear it anywhere piece, & disreet, apart from the cyclops date.
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A&S would fit a rotund guy quite well, but that's not Craig. A&S also had an appalling run of mifires for a bit there, though that seems to have sorted itself out. With Hitchcock gone now it's still going to be interesting to see where the house goes style wise. Hayward certainly perfect, and Timothy Everest and Poole are probably the closest analogues today, though from your list Chittleborough could pull off most anything and would be pretty intriguing.
This is one of my favorite bits of dialogue from CR. As much as I enjoy it, I think it applies to SC far more. I've always enjoyed SC's lack of fussiness.
In SF I felt Craig's suits looked a little snug. Regardless, I do like to see Bond in a tux.