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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @RC7, in that case, I see no point in this being a pre-order. The box set just went on sale, and you could save money by getting that and SF separate.
  • RC7RC7
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @RC7, in that case, I see no point in this being a pre-order. The box set just went on sale, and you could save money by getting that and SF separate.

    It doesn't mean the set will have a matching SF disc. It'll be the standard SF disc, just in the box set, if anything. It would make absolutely no business sense to all of a sudden present us with a matching disc. After all, who other than a few OCD-suffering Bond fans cares?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @RC7, true, but I wouldn't put it past them to find any reason whatsoever to re-release something so soon.
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    Does anyone own the 50th Anniversary DVD (NOT blue ray) collection? I saw on Amazon that they do not have any special features. I wonder why? Milking it perhaps until they re-release the DVD's (non blue ray) again with special features? I know that blue rays have more space but there would still be room on those DVD's for a few good extras. Having said that though, I'm not really into special features. The only time I will really watch them is if there are deleted scenes which I like. The blue rays include deleted scenes for some of the films but most of them don't have them and you can watch these on You Tube anyway.

    I'm wondering if it's worth buying the 50th Anniversary DVD collection as it is half the price of the blue rays and the other Bond DVD collections that do include special features (not that the money is an issue anyway) and I don't have a blue ray player in my laptop. I move around a bit so there's no point in me getting a TV and a blue ray player at this stage.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I mistakenly bought the 50th Anniversary DVD set thinking it was the Bluray Set. There are no special features, but the quality of the videos themselves are that of Bluray's so I'm happy.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    If all you really watch are the films, get them on DVD. Wait and get the Blu-rays when you'll be able to enjoy them, along with all the extras they offer.
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    Murdock wrote:
    I mistakenly bought the 50th Anniversary DVD set thinking it was the Bluray Set. There are no special features, but the quality of the videos themselves are that of Bluray's so I'm happy.

    Oh no! Sorry to hear that. Back in the late 90's I accidentally ordered Clockwork Orange and Never Say Never Again on CD instead of the actual movies. The former is a good soundtrack though. :)

    I don't have the Bonds on DVD. Don't ask me why I have never bought them on DVD because I wouldn't be able to tell you. LOL.

    I also watched all of the makings of the Bond films on the MGM channel back between the time of TWINE and DAD.

    So, the quality of the DVD's is almost the same as the Blue Rays then? I wonder if I would even notice much difference between the two, watching them on my 15.5 inch Vaio screen..?

    Thank you Murdock and Samuel001.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    As for Special Features, I have all the Special Edition DVD's as well so I can watch those when I like.
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    @Murdock Are you going to buy the blue rays? You could try selling the 50th anniversary collection.

    Do you think that there's much difference in picture quality between the following DVD collections:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/James-Bond-007-Ultimate-Collectors/dp/B00307RT86/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1383516451&sr=1-3&keywords=james+bond+collection

    and

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/James-Bond-Film-Collection-DVD/dp/B0093XXFZM/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1383516451&sr=1-1&keywords=james+bond+collection

    I don't know when the former collection in the silver box was released.

    I do have 'Never Say Never Again' and 'Skyfall' on DVD.

    I carry a big DVD wallet around the world with me so I'd take all the DVD's out of their cases and put them in this.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Well, Playing them on my Bluray player, they look stunning. no dirt or grit at all. I thought it was Bluray for the longest time until I read the box.
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    Murdock wrote:
    Well, Playing them on my Bluray player, they look stunning. no dirt or grit at all. I thought it was Bluray for the longest time until I read the box.

    Do you think that playing them on an actual blue ray player would make the picture quality look better or would they look just as good on a standard DVD player?

  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Bounine wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Well, Playing them on my Bluray player, they look stunning. no dirt or grit at all. I thought it was Bluray for the longest time until I read the box.

    Do you think that playing them on an actual blue ray player would make the picture quality look better or would they look just as good on a standard DVD player?

    Yes, I can confirm that playing DVD's on a Blu Ray player, does improve picture and sound. However, BluRay discs are still better quality all round.
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Bounine wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Well, Playing them on my Bluray player, they look stunning. no dirt or grit at all. I thought it was Bluray for the longest time until I read the box.

    Do you think that playing them on an actual blue ray player would make the picture quality look better or would they look just as good on a standard DVD player?

    Yes, I can confirm that playing DVD's on a Blu Ray player, does improve picture and sound. However, BluRay discs are still better quality all round.


    How much better quality would you say?

  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    I've got the BluRay copy of Skyfall and a DVD copy comes with it. The difference between BluRay and DVD is greater than that of DVD and VHS video!
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    That's amazing. I wonder if there's a notable difference between the two on a 15.5 inch Vaio screen though.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2013 Posts: 13,355
    There will be, trust me. The Casino Royale Blu-ray from six or so years ago, still looks great on that size screen.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Murdock wrote:
    I mistakenly bought the 50th Anniversary DVD set thinking it was the Bluray Set. There are no special features, but the quality of the videos themselves are that of Bluray's so I'm happy.

    Is it really though? If there's no difference why did you set out to buy the Bluray set in the first place then and only wind up with the DVDs by accident? And as you haven't even got the Blurays how do you know there's no difference?

    The fable of the fox and grapes springs to mind here.

    As someone who does actually own the Blurays let me assure you that there is a world of difference. DN alone is worth the price of the box set - it looks indecently gorgeous.


  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I don't think I've ever seen a DVD that has a quality that matches a blu-ray. Ever.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited November 2013 Posts: 16,351
    TheWizardOfIce wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I mistakenly bought the 50th Anniversary DVD set thinking it was the Bluray Set. There are no special features, but the quality of the videos themselves are that of Bluray's so I'm happy.

    Is it really though? If there's no difference why did you set out to buy the Bluray set in the first place then and only wind up with the DVDs by accident? And as you haven't even got the Blurays how do you know there's no difference?

    The fable of the fox and grapes springs to mind here.

    As someone who does actually own the Blurays let me assure you that there is a world of difference. DN alone is worth the price of the box set - it looks indecently gorgeous.


    Crystal clear picture, No Grit, No Grain. To me that's all I need to make my judgement. I'm sure there is a difference but I can't see it.

    As for the reason I mistakenly got the DVD's are that at the time of the release. The Boxes looked Exactly the same. I do have Blu rays of other movies though. It looks like what happens when I see a 3D movie at the cinema. Granted the DVD's are still gorgeous and I'm happy with them. I'm disappointed it didn't come with a bonus disc, but It's been mentioned that the features themselves weren't special so in for a penny in for a pound I suppose.
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    I don't think I've ever seen a movie in blue ray. Why I didn't buy a Vaio that plays blue rays in the first place, I'll never know. Now that I do have a laptop that only plays DVD's, I just can't see the point in buying another just for that seeing my current one works perfectly well. Maybe when I stop moving around I'll get a blue ray player and a 50 inch TV. Maybe it's worth getting a blue ray player that I can connect to my laptop with an HDMI cable. It depends on how big it is and how much it weighs. If it doesn't weigh too much nor takes up too much room in my suitcase then it might be alright. In which case, I could buy the Bond blue rays. I'm not sure what to do.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    There is a humungous difference between watching a film on a DVD and Blu-ray disc. As we are speaking about the Bond films, the difference is immense. The restorations done for the early Connery films (the only ones I have on Blu-ray currently) are beauty exemplified. I have yet to see TB, YOLT and DAF in the format, but can report that the likes of DN, FRWL and GF look dazzling. The sound, the picture, everything is absolutely magnificent.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited November 2013 Posts: 5,767
    @Bounine, I have a standart 32" tv, and played from my br player, dvd and br doesn´t show that much difference. I can only talk about picture, I don´t care for surround sound.
    It´s more the restaurations of some older films that take your breath away. I have Jaws for instance on dvd and br, and the dvd 30th anniversry edition looks perfect on my 9" netbook and did look perfect on my old 17" tube tv, but doesn´t cut it on 32", and not just in comparison.
    I used to see no flaws whatsoever in the picture quality of my Road Warrior dvd, before I got my new tv. Last night I watched it again, for the first time on 32", and I noticed flaws. Again, I presume the br has a better restauration.
    I have Skyfall both on dvd and br, and with a standart br player and standart 32" tv the differences are marginal. From 40" upward you definitely better watch br.
    If you only use a laptop, I seriously doubt that you will see a difference between dvd and br if you watch a newer film. If you want to go for old Bond films, don´t hesitate and get them on br.
    It really also depends on the case. The Manhunter br, despite the picture being much more crisp than the dvd, has the colours screwed up, resulting in the dvd having a much better mood than the br.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    I can say that you will see a difference between a DVD and a BR-disc on a 15.5" screen. Once you've seen a film in Blu-Ray quality on a Screen that size, there's no going back.

    Unfortunately my computer just comes with a DVD player and I do not have a TV of my own as of yet. So there isn't a way for me to watch the Bond-films in BR-quality (within the boundaries of the law of course...)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I just think blu-ray trumps DVD in every way. Every time I watch QoS on blu-ray and those beautiful images start up as the films start and the engines prepare to rev up, I crank the volume and am blown away at the quality and sound.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
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    Having recently bought a Blu Ray player, I will only consider upgrading my Bond set if EON release never been seen extras and a Collectors Edition QOS. Until then I'm nore than happy with my Ultimate Edition Dvds. The Bond 50 set IMO was an exercise in fleecing the fans.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    LeChiffre wrote:
    Having recently bought a Blu Ray player, I will only consider upgrading my Bond set if EON release never been seen extras and a Collectors Edition QOS. Until then I'm nore than happy with my Ultimate Edition Dvds. The Bond 50 set IMO was an exercise in fleecing the fans.

    Looks like you'll never be upgrading your Bond collection, then, because the QoS Collector's Edition will never see the light of day, sadly.
  • RC7RC7
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    LeChiffre wrote:
    Having recently bought a Blu Ray player, I will only consider upgrading my Bond set if EON release never been seen extras and a Collectors Edition QOS. Until then I'm nore than happy with my Ultimate Edition Dvds. The Bond 50 set IMO was an exercise in fleecing the fans.

    I've never understood the value people place on extras, particularly this nonsensical notion about the QoS ultimate edition. Don't get me wrong, they are interesting and I spent a good deal of time pouring over them when they released the DVD's a decade ago. However, in this day and age you can find out much more juicy information via better sources, this forum for instance. I saved and bought myself a top of the range TV and the Blu-ray boxset. It's the best thing I've ever done. I get to watch Bond in the best quality possible and that's all I need. Afterall, it's the films that are the important thing.
  • BounineBounine
    edited November 2013 Posts: 2,599
    Very helpful posts above. Thanks.

    It's only Bond that I'm really interested in owning on blue ray. I'm happy with the standard DVD quality of my other films. They look good. I do have Skyfall on DVD and it looks good so on blue ray it must look amazing.

    I wonder how much the smallest (preferably Sony seeing my laptop is Sony) blue ray player would weigh seeing I would want to take it in my suitcase..?

    It annoys me the way Eon released those 50th Anniversary DVD's without extras even though I'm not heavily into extras. When it comes to Bond I do watch the occasional extra. I don't suppose there's much difference in quality if any between these ones and the ones in the silver box set (Ultimate DVD Collectors Set') on Amazon:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/James-Bond-007-Ultimate-Collectors/dp/B00307RT86/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1383516451&sr=1-3&keywords=james+bond+collection

    I could always buy the 50th Anniversary collection on DVD seeing they're so cheap and when I get a blue ray player or a new laptop that plays blue rays, two or three years down the track, I'll get the 50th Anniversary blue rays.
  • BounineBounine
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    Murdock wrote:
    As for Special Features, I have all the Special Edition DVD's as well so I can watch those when I like.

    Are these the ones in the silver box?

    When did the Special Edition collection come out? Is there much difference in quality between these and the 50th Anniversary DVD Collection that you also have?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    The 50th Anniversary DVDs are the same as the Ultimate editions, from 2006, much better picture and sound than the Special editions, which are from the late 90's.
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