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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Some of them even look constipated or awkwardly cut into the picture, like the one for LTK. It looks so bad and almost mirrors the teaser poster for CR.
  • Ed83Ed83
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    I saw a funny writeup on a review site about the newer For Your Eyes Only Bluray Cover. It went to the effect of something like this "Oh yeah, I remember the movie that a helicopter flew up Roger Moore's Ass." And they also added a few jabs about how it looked like a romantic novel cover.

    I wonder exactly who approves the covers, or if they are just given a blank slate and whatever is created is whipped up in a few short hours and wham bam their finished. I have the Bond 50 set, but I already had the previous blurays in blu cases that were released prior to that so I went ahead and finished out my collection when I caught a great sell going at bestbuy. I prefer the cases by far. I guess I should have researched the packaging of the Bond 50 set before I reserved my copy because it just seems that its got a huge potential to damage the discs, taking them in and out of the book multiple times. I like the little poster book that came with it, but aside from that I would go for the cases. That's why the covers are important to a lot of people and its rather disappointing when they show a total lack of effort on them.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited June 2014 Posts: 16,349
    I always preferred the covers to the VHS tapes/Special Edition DVD's. Close up of Bond and something that has a small detail about the movie and that's it. It lets the imagination run wild with what the movie will be about.

    The Bluray covers on the other hand... some are okay but others are awful.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Murdock wrote:
    I always preferred the covers to the VHS tapes/Special Edition DVD's. Close up of Bond and something that has a small detail about the movie and that's it. It lets the imagination run wild with what the movie will be about.

    The Bluray covers on the other hand... some are okay but others are awful.

    You and I both, I loved how the VHS's used the theatrical posters. That's what they should've done for the 50th Anniversary blu-rays, or at least something a bit more creative.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    Ed83 wrote:
    I prefer the cases by far. I guess I should have researched the packaging of the Bond 50 set before I reserved my copy because it just seems that its got a huge potential to damage the discs, taking them in and out of the book multiple times.
    That´s the feeling I get too. The price for the Bond 50 br box set at amazon right now is amazing, but I think I´ll get some plastic cases for the discs. I anyhow find the book they´re in not too practical. I saw blu ray amaray cases that hold up to 8 discs each, so four or five of them could hold all the films and save a lot of space. And I could leave the books somewhere in the open then for guests to look at the pictures ;-).

  • NapoleonPluralNapoleonPlural
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    I imagine it's a ruse to encourage quadruple dipping; they'll release some later BluRays with wonderful covers, which will get snapped up.

    The artwork on this forum is better - has anyone done some alternative BluRay sleeves?
  • Ed83Ed83
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    boldfinger wrote:
    Ed83 wrote:
    I prefer the cases by far. I guess I should have researched the packaging of the Bond 50 set before I reserved my copy because it just seems that its got a huge potential to damage the discs, taking them in and out of the book multiple times.
    That´s the feeling I get too. The price for the Bond 50 br box set at amazon right now is amazing, but I think I´ll get some plastic cases for the discs. I anyhow find the book they´re in not too practical. I saw blu ray amaray cases that hold up to 8 discs each, so four or five of them could hold all the films and save a lot of space. And I could leave the books somewhere in the open then for guests to look at the pictures ;-).
    That's a great idea!


  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    NapoleonPlural wrote:
    I imagine it's a ruse to encourage quadruple dipping; they'll release some later BluRays with wonderful covers, which will get snapped up.

    The artwork on this forum is better - has anyone done some alternative BluRay sleeves?

    I've done tons of Bond blu-ray covers but none that could be printed out and used. It was just a series of covers I did to have fun.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    I finally sat down and watched the blu ray of AVTAK
    I always liked this movie and I had owned it on VHS for many years and watched it over and over.

    As a proud owner of the 50th Anniversary set, I just never got around to watching AVTAK.
    I did.

    DAMN !! ROGER MOORE LOOKED SO OLD

    I knew he had aged considerably but I never really noticed it before. I understand why so many fans have a problem with his age in AVTAK.

    I guess there is some sense to blu ray and why so many people prefer blu ray discs.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    OHMSS69 wrote:
    I finally sat down and watched the blu ray of AVTAK
    I always liked this movie and I had owned it on VHS for many years and watched it over and over.

    As a proud owner of the 50th Anniversary set, I just never got around to watching AVTAK.
    I did.

    DAMN !! ROGER MOORE LOOKED SO OLD

    I knew he had aged considerably but I never really noticed it before. I understand why so many fans have a problem with his age in AVTAK.
    Now you scared me so much that I had to pop in the br and check for myself. I had the SE dvd, and Moore didn´t look younger on dvd, so I´m relieved. I still argue that the way he holds his body and his facial expressions in AVTAK are more playful than ever.
    I´m also very happy to see that the windows in the zeppelin don´t show that annoying flickering anymore on br. That was one thing that always bothered me on dvd.

    Once more I couldn´t help noticing how much I love the visual style of the Glen Bonds.

  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    boldfinger wrote:
    OHMSS69 wrote:
    I finally sat down and watched the blu ray of AVTAK
    I always liked this movie and I had owned it on VHS for many years and watched it over and over.

    As a proud owner of the 50th Anniversary set, I just never got around to watching AVTAK.
    I did.

    DAMN !! ROGER MOORE LOOKED SO OLD

    I knew he had aged considerably but I never really noticed it before. I understand why so many fans have a problem with his age in AVTAK.
    Now you scared me so much that I had to pop in the br and check for myself. I had the SE dvd, and Moore didn´t look younger on dvd, so I´m relieved. I still argue that the way he holds his body and his facial expressions in AVTAK are more playful than ever.
    I´m also very happy to see that the windows in the zeppelin don´t show that annoying flickering anymore on br. That was one thing that always bothered me on dvd.

    Once more I couldn´t help noticing how much I love the visual style of the Glen Bonds.

    I recently watched parts of AVTAK on blu ray and I think it looks MUCH better. As one of my favourites, I'm very pleased that they did a grand job on it. One scene that stuck out is when Bond is hanging on to the rope from the blimp and there's that beautiful shot of the Golden Gate Bridge in the background.
  • NapoleonPluralNapoleonPlural
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    Hmm, tricky isn't it? One reviewer for Lawrence of Arabia wrote than on Blu Ray Anthony Quinn's false nose shows up more, and on Moonraker the stuntmen and wires holding up the space station are more obvious. Sometimes, less is more.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    NapoleonPlural wrote:
    Hmm, tricky isn't it? One reviewer for Lawrence of Arabia wrote than on Blu Ray Anthony Quinn's false nose shows up more, and on Moonraker the stuntmen and wires holding up the space station are more obvious. Sometimes, less is more.
    I still have to watch MR on br, but from what I´ve been able to compare so far, it all depends on how good the transfer and restauration are done, whether or not the involved persons have enough love, dedication and time to do a proper job. Br is another medium than dvd, and it has to handled differently.

  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    Moore looked so old and the DVD picked it up in more vivid detail. Along with the positives of the film.

    Yes , the snow scenes in the PTS looked very polished.

    they did a good job with this one as far as blu ray goes. I am going to have to go back and watch my favorite Moore OP next.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    I´m absolutely amazed at the quality of some of the old films on br. I only checked GF and TB so far. Those two look so much better than on dvd!
    I was a stubborn defender of dvd, and I still wouldn´t say that one should get each and every film on br (All the President´s Men for instance doesn´t look better on br), but if old films are restored like this there´s no way around br. I don´t know if it´s the br format, or just a really good restauration, but James Bond on blu ray is a must. At least for the older films.

    Wait until you see DN and FRWL. I almost proposed to the discs.
    Wow, just watched DN.
    I feel as if I just came back from Jamaica personally.
    And I never noticed to what extent DN is a set design orgy.
    This is really like being introduced to the Bond films completely anew.


  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Can someone explain this to me? My Wife & son both don't see a difference between BR & DVD, but I see a marked upgrade in clarity with BR... do some folks just see differently? :-??
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Can someone explain this to me? My Wife & son both don't see a difference between BR & DVD, but I see a marked upgrade in clarity with BR... do some folks just see differently? :-??

    Honestly, I only thought it was older people who couldn't tell the difference between blu-ray and DVD. Everything is hooked up properly for them, I take it? The only thing I could think of is viewing a blu-ray on a standard TV or not having the cables hooked up properly, but I'm sure it is if you can see the upgrade.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    My Son says the only difference he notices at all is that you can read small signs in the picture a bit easier. I see all kinds of colour & deepness to the blacks & five o'clock shadows & fine cloud density variations I never saw before...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Everything stands out to me in blu-ray, both in audio and video. Deeper colors, sharper sounds, everything looks and sounds so crisp.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited June 2014 Posts: 5,767
    chrisisall wrote:
    Can someone explain this to me? My Wife & son both don't see a difference between BR & DVD, but I see a marked upgrade in clarity with BR... do some folks just see differently? :-??
    It depends on the film I guess. And the bigger the tv set, the more the difference. I have a 32" tv set, and I played the Skyfall br and dvd on the same player, and it wasn´t really much of a difference. I feel the same with many new films, as long as the dvd is played on the br player. Or, to be more precise, I can see clear differences, but I wouldn´t necessarily say br looks better, even when I watch films on a friend´s 50" screen.
    And then, as stated above, I got me the Bond 50 br set and popped in DN, GF, TB, and YOLT, and I´m in tears because I literally watched different films from those on dvd, they were that fantastic. I think I will never be able again to watch those films on dvd, and I used to love those dvds!
    I compared Manhunter on dvd and br, and the br, while definitely more detailed, lacked much of the rich colors the dvd had.
    I compared All the President´s Men on dvd and br, and I stuck with the dvd, even though it would benefit a lot from a proper restauration, because the br hasn´t got a proper restauration either.
    I switched from dvd to br with Big Trouble in little China and Jaws, because once I had a new tv, I wasn´t quite happy with the dvd picture, and the br didn´t disappoint in these two cases.

  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
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    I think one aspect that a lot of people forget about is calibrating the tv to get the best picture possible. A lot of people take their new expensive tv out of the box connect the br player and away they go. Recently some friends of mine bought a very expensive tv and a top of the range BR player. They like classic films and I turned up and they were watching "West Side Story". What they were watching though was "West Side Story" as if it was filmed with cheap tv soap opera cameras. I told them that they had a problem with the image quality and they didn't see anything wrong - afterall everthing was set up by the "Professional" who delivered the equipment. After a few adjustments with the remotes and turning off all the pre-installed gadgetry that "smooths" out images we were left with an image that was "film like" and represented an image deserving of their huge investment. I know people who were still connecting their equipment with scart cables and questioning the image quality!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    It all boils down to the equipment and the hookup. I know my parents did a free Dish upgrade to a Dish HD receiver, but they haven't spent money on a cheap HDMI cable to really get the high-def quality out of it. HD TV, HD receiver, yet no HDMI cable to help.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    I'm new to the blu ray world and currently only have AVTAK and GoldenEye on BR. Does anybody know where I can buy the Bond 50 BR boxset (with Skyfall and those posters) for a reasonable price (preferably in the UK)? I've looked around the web but I can only find the 22 film set...
  • NapoleonPluralNapoleonPlural
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    I'm also new to BR, and while you ponder on MayDay's box set query, I wanted to ask NobodyDoesItBetter, what are you supposed to use to connect the equipment if not scart leads?
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    edited June 2014 Posts: 3,144
    NapoleonPlural wrote:
    I'm also new to BR, and while you ponder on MayDay's box set query, I wanted to ask NobodyDoesItBetter, what are you supposed to use to connect the equipment if not scart leads?

    What you need to use is a HDMI cable in case your wondering what it stands for
    High Def Multi Media Interface .
    It's a data cable actuality
    Don't get caught out when you buy one they don't need to be gold plated so save your money
    Hope this is useful for you.

    http://www.techradar.com/news/video/why-you-don-t-need-to-spend-more-than-2-on-an-hdmi-cable-1071343
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    Everything stands out to me in blu-ray, both in audio and video. Deeper colors, sharper sounds, everything looks and sounds so crisp.

    You are right about that. Only Bond film I have on bluray is Skyfall, and that is very appropriate as it really highlights the beautiful cinematography.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Thunderfinger, you should find some contrast and pick up DN on blu-ray and look at the difference in quality from DVD to blu-ray.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited June 2014 Posts: 45,489
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Thunderfinger, you should find some contrast and pick up DN on blu-ray and look at the difference in quality from DVD to blu-ray.

    I would love to see several of those 60s films on b-r. Maybe I will pick up a couple of them at some point.
  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    edited June 2014 Posts: 1,021
    NapoleonPlural wrote:
    I'm also new to BR, and while you ponder on MayDay's box set query, I wanted to ask NobodyDoesItBetter, what are you supposed to use to connect the equipment if not scart leads?

    as @mrcoggins wrote you need a HDMI cable to connect a HD TV to a Blu-Ray player or any other highdefinition source to be able to take advantage of high definition images. Connecting a SCART lead to a HD TV will not give you a high definition image. I'm not even sure if there are blu-ray players that have scart connections (at least mine doesn't). HDMI is the best way to go. You could use component cables to connect (red,green,blue) but those will only give you a high def image upto 1080i. If you have a HD tv and a blu-ray player use the HDMI cable. And take the advice from mrcoggins - you don't need to spend a fortune for a decent HDMI cable. Connected via HDMI you will be able to enjoy all the Bond films in their high def glory. Especially the older ones which look amazing!

  • boldfingerboldfinger
    Posts: 5,767
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote:
    I think one aspect that a lot of people forget about is calibrating the tv to get the best picture possible. A lot of people take their new expensive tv out of the box connect the br player and away they go. Recently some friends of mine bought a very expensive tv and a top of the range BR player. They like classic films and I turned up and they were watching "West Side Story". What they were watching though was "West Side Story" as if it was filmed with cheap tv soap opera cameras. I told them that they had a problem with the image quality and they didn't see anything wrong - afterall everthing was set up by the "Professional" who delivered the equipment. After a few adjustments with the remotes and turning off all the pre-installed gadgetry that "smooths" out images we were left with an image that was "film like" and represented an image deserving of their huge investment. I know people who were still connecting their equipment with scart cables and questioning the image quality!
    I am absolutely amazed by several friends who inependently from one another have been keeping this soap opera picture setting and claim they got used to it, or even better, that there´s nothing wrong with it, and that it´s so fantastically sharp. Not in my life would I get used to that setting. Before I found out I can switch Motion Control off on my new tv, I was close to getting an aneurism in my head and already wanted to bring the tv back to the store.


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