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Not really as the films mark the weakest era for me. Not entirely Brosnan’s fault though, he never lived up to his potential shown in GE.....an average Bond film which was actually his best by far.
I can see why you’d think that. Like I said I’m a huge Brosnan fan, he’s my 2nd favorite after Connery (my personal opinion), but his era does have a lot of problems. I think the issue with his era are bad scripts for the most part (GE withstanding), they ask him to do vulnerable, and emotional scenes, only for those scenes to be undercut by him doing some ridiculous thing immediately after wards. Like DAD, having Bond tortured was an element I loved, having him stop his own heart? F*ck that.
DAD will always anchor Brosnan's era down, somewhat. But TWINE is just as bad, in a different way. The most frustrating thing about DAD is, with a bit of script editing and a more restrained director, it would have actually been a pretty good Bond film.
The problem with TWINE is, on paper it has a decent script, apart from the odd dodgy one liner. It had a well respected, restrained director. It had two excellent actors in the villain roles. But it was still crap.
For me the Brosnan era is a forgettable stain on the franchise, a horrible blip. Its one I instantly skip over. For me the franchise ends with LTK, and starts again with CR (both brilliant films, IMO.)
I kind of love TWINE, in fact I’d say that it sneaks it’s way into my Top 10 Favorite Bond films (purely my opinion), I found the only off putting element of that film was Denise Richards. It’s one of those films where I can recognize it’s faults and excesses, yet still enjoy it either way.
I can’t say I agree, I personally love 2 of the 4 Brosnan Bond films, but I’d be lying if I said that his era was flawless, it’s not like any Bond actors era has been 100% completely flawless. I just find GE and TWINE to be amongst the best efforts of the series, TND is fairly middle of the road for me, and DAD is an abomination. But that’s just me.
Agreed on the scripts mate.
Too harsh. The last two are tough to defend, but GE is excellent, and TND is watchable.
I absolutely love Goldeneye. It was my first Bond film, and it sits within my Top 3. I think another issue with the Brosnan era was they all felt like the directors had very little control (Campbell withstanding). It all seemed very producer driven.
Yes, I'm sure that's the case. You could probably argue that for all the pre-Craig Bond films. I think the big difference being, that Cubby and Harry knew what they where doing, far better than Babs and Wilson. They have grown into the role now, but it took them awhile.
They have most definitely, but even then I think the quality of the Craig era is uneven as well. CR is amazing, SF is great as well. But QOS and SP are pretty weak in my opinion. It just seems like Babs and Wilson struggle with the ability to be at least somewhat consistent with their films. That’s where Cubby and Harry succeeded, even if they didn’t make the best films all the time either.
I agree, too harsh. But all the Brosnan films are average to the worst IMO. GE is the most overrated film of the series alongside SF.
Both decent, but not in my top 10.
I agree with you regarding most of the Brosnan era, but disagree with your opinion on GE. It's a fine film that at least gave a bit of a spark to the then floundering franchise.
It was certainly popular, but I honestly think GE is inferior to TLD and LTK. Which I loved as a Fleming purist.
I watched GE as an underwhelmed 13 year old, who had watched all the Bond films on Video/ TV/ SKY and expected more from the first Bond film I was able to watch at the Cinema.
One can read more into the Brosnan films than the original 16 because there is less distancing of time, more production information readily available and you can see the pitfalls they fell into more easily.
Experts say it is one of the worst.
Depends which "expert" you ask...
Doesn t it always? I was just using a very common, very abused expression. Anyway, those are the "experts" I agree with, which is just another dishonest way of stating my own opinion.
They are the experts I agree with too...
Not anymore, I got CR 06 at the cinema. The best Bond film since the 60’s.
CR was only the best entry since the 80s.
The only fact regarding the Bond films is that DAD is the worst film in the franchise. That is definitely a fact and not an opinion..... ;)
I appreciate your opinion. Personally I love Casino Royale, and enjoy Skyfall. My issues with the Craig Era is that it suffers as many inconsistencies as the Brosnan era with regards to films. Perhaps on a larger scale, because the perceived “Good, Bad, Good, Bad” nature of those films is incredibly infuriating. I rank both Quantum of Solace and SPECTRE at the bottom of my list because I just heavily dislike both of those films.
My “theory” on Bond films is that every incumbent actor in the role is always declared as “The Best since Sean Connery”, then once their era is over, and we’ve moved onto a new actor, there seems to be a lot of retroactive criticism, at least that’s what I’ve seen. The Brosnan era was loved back (by the fandom, and by the mainstream audience) in its day, but it seems like ever since the Craig era started, it seems to be the case that more and more people find flaws with Brosnan’s films. I can’t bring myself to “hate” the era like some others do, because he was my first Bond. I suppose my love of Brosnan comes heavily rooted in Nostalgia, but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Like I mentioned, I love Goldeneye. It sits comfortably at #3 in my rankings. Tomorrow Never Dies is decent. I personally love The World Is Not Enough despite its flaws. While I agree that Die Another Day is a terrible misfire.
I say the Craig era went.....Amazing/ Excellent/ Good/ Bad personally.
Whereas the Brosnan era was Average/ Average/ Bad/ Pathetic IMO.
It’s more than amazing, it’s phenomenal ;)
Your theory is absolutely correct. I was surprised to see the amount of backlash pop up so suddenly for the Brosnan era when it did to be honest.
Then you have the "pick the black sheep" film that for some reason most decide to hate on for a time before switching to another. It's usually TMWTGG or MR, sometimes AVTAK and sometimes DAF. Now it seems to be DAD universally.