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That's been gone for a long time. These days you can like it or lump it. The films are much more to tonally consistent which I think appeals to some but not others who hanker after the slightly bizarre mix you got with the old films.
Hi @peter I removed it after a couple of members had suggested it was way off topic and belonged in a different thread. Despite this the conversation continued. However i'm happy to drop the comments into a different thread if you wish to pick it up elsewhere.
I'd be interested to catch that conversation.
Hopefully a change in approach/tone occurs for B26. I'm more confident of the latter than the former because these continuation narratives still seem to be all the rage in the industry, so I can't see EON breaking the mold.
I do believe that the direct continuation approach inherently makes it more difficult to continue this series and change actors and that troubles me, because that is the reason James Bond is the longest running continually successful series - because it retains flexibility in approach & shakes it up regularly.
Nothing untoward. Someone made an assertion that it wasn't B25 related. I thought it was, because we were initially discussing Broccoli's comments about women in the Bond series, and there is every reason to believe that her sensibilities & opinions will inform how she involves women in the franchise in the future, especially given the political times we live in and the current pressure to put a man in place (Craig has even said as much). Some will see it as part of the modernization of the character, while others (like me) will see it as a continued watering down of a character who remains very unique.
I realize our conversation went slightly off tangent (but still in a natural progression from the original thoughts), but have always felt that a little leeway is better on this thread given it allows for some interesting topics to actually be discussed. Good quality conversation never progresses in a linear fashion. Rather, it meanders to accommodate thoughts and ideas that come along. I would personally prefer if the flow of thought not be interrupted to accommodate strict rules, but that's just me.
Next time you and I get into something interesting (and we have in the past - I enjoy our exchanges) I'll be sure to suggest a quick move to The Controversial Thread, so that the tiresome whining about Newman & Zimmer can continue here. ;)
I would take him over Newman any given day the week and twice on Sunday.
To be frank, I would be very very much surprised if there was anything. Actually, I don't think they have gotten anything together right now, including signing Craig.
You are mixing up cynism and realism. Just given smart business procedures it would be very stupid by them to sign him,if they're even haven't got a distributor. Let's say for any reasons this takes another year to get done wouldn't it be quite stupid for them to already give him all this money and not be sure how he looks like in one year from now or two years from now? Also a new partner distributor might also be of the opinion,that it might be smarter to start with a clean sheet. Meaning also an actor,who is quiet more docile, grateful and - last but not least - cheaper.
Also, why should they make a secret out of it if they already have signed him? Giving the Publis city of this why don't we read something along the lines of "EON proudly announces the signing of Mr. Daniel Craig for starring one last time in his signature role as James Bond 007" in just about every newspaper on the planet and of course all over the Internet?
I don't think any of us know where they are at with the distributor. I'm certain that will impact direction (perhaps significantly depending on who wins) and nobody can really tell where they are on that front. Future direction can change too, depending on the way the film market moves in the next year and which films are successful. This is a dynamic environment and 2019 is some time away.
Right now we have to assume what has been announced is fact. Things can possibly change and we'll hear rumblings if that is the case down the road. There are definitely leaks in the seal.
Realism, really? Daniel Craig has very publicly announced he is returning as James Bond - not a maybe, not still working it out, not hoping to do another one (as per Brosnan post DAD, although he clearly thought a deal would be done for his fifth,) - no, Craig has said he is definitely doing Bond 25 and, as we have heard, Eon and Craig are in talks with a certain French/Canadian director. And Eon have announced a release date. That's real.
We are waiting on the director and distributor factor next.
So why didn't they announce the signing? Doesn't EON need any publicity these days? Especially positive one?
As I see it all I read there is a retelling of the show the night before, nothing about EON, contract signing or whatever . Also, as upset about my heresy you all understandably are, could any of you try to address my point about smart business procedures, which actually excludes hiring people years in advance especially if there is so much homework still to do.
Here you go: when it comes to Bond 25, smart business procedure is hiring Daniel Craig as soon as possible, which is exactly what they did.
Because Craig could have quit the role if he wanted to? Ever since SP came out he never was 100% clear if he'd come back until about 2 months ago when he did outright say he was doing Bond 25. That was the question, was he going to leave the franchise or stay for another film.
Because the 5th film is only an option,which means that Daniel or EON could terminate the contract after the 4th film (SP).
So he is still officially hired,he has decided to use the option,EON agree their end,so that's that.