No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I wonder when's the next concrete news coming up.
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    At least now we know for sure that McGuigan is out. Great news! It seems that now the worst case scenario is Demange, which btw would be a pretty damn good scanario.
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    Not to familiar with McGuigan outside his work with Sherlock. Possible candidate for future Bond films?

    With the news that there's no director in place as of yet: When can we expect a director to be announced – or how close to the start of the production can we/should wee see a director in place?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Nobody is asking them the most important question: Namely, where are MGM with the distribution deal. These clowns are all following the bait and asking about the director.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Take out the personal drama, delving into Bond's past and the dour overtones, up the tension and adventure.
    No, no, no! Personal drama is great, as long as it's not about Bond. (Vesper' past in CR, or Silva's and M's shared past in Skyfall.) I want drama in my Bond film as long as Bond is not the centre of it. (I agree about no delving into Bond's past.)

    Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a more dramatic Bond film but 4 films in a row and Skyfall (Which I did like.) I just feel like it's gone on far enough and I'm ready for a more TSWLM adventurous Bond film. However, Should Bond25 be more of the same, I at least hope its better than Blofeld being Bonds temporary adoptive brother.

    God. No director has been chosen yet. No story has been leaked. And we're already start complaining? Just take it easy. Otherwise Bond receives the same fate as "Star Trek" nowadays: Criticising a franchise to death before even an inch of film has premiered.

    Let's all take it easy a bit. Let's not get ahead of these things. Being critical is perfectly fine. But at this stage and in this fashion that's just a bit over the top.

    There were days when even bad Bond films were embraced by critics and fans alike. But today it seems that we really put our expectations too high; that we talk as if we are in the directors chair. It doesn't make sense.

    I agree with @Murdock that Bond 25 should be a bit more funny than it's four immediate predecessors. But we can't change this fact if we don't get a more funny Bond film. Let's stay positive.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I wonder when's the next concrete news coming up.

    In a surprise announcement today, Barbara Broccoli admitted that the twenty-fifth James Bond adventure would never happen.
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    Let's stay positive.
    I will stay positive as long as there is a chance Bond 25 will be the single MOST serious Bond film ever. NO JOKES, please! I want a Bond film that takes itself extremely seriously and is very radical.
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    Let's stay positive.
    I will stay positive as long as there is a chance Bond 25 will be the single MOST serious Bond film ever. NO JOKES, please! I want a Bond film that takes itself extremely seriously and is very radical.

    The problem with you is you mean it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I wonder when's the next concrete news coming up.

    In a surprise announcement today, Barbara Broccoli admitted that the twenty-fifth James Bond adventure would never happen.

    Even worse: Broccoli announces the 25th film will be the final James Bond installment ever, but will be helmed by an un-retired Uwe Boll.
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    All I am saying is this: Isn't there a chance that we criticise our beloved Bond franchise to.....destruction? Or that we fans are too harsh too soon? Perhaps it's a pattern that both two very old franchises, Star Trek and Bond, share with one another; that they have become so old that decade after decade we are raising our expectations to such incredible heights, so that it isn't even realistic anymore.

    Aaawh well, perhaps I am exaggerating. But sometimes it feels that way. And then new iterations like "The Orville" and "Kingsman" are familiair enough so that we don't criticise it as much, and original enough so that we don't criticise it either. They are not exactly Star Trek or Bond, but they are at the same time. Hence we embrace such new iterations/spoofs/variation on the genre much easier.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I wonder when's the next concrete news coming up.

    In a surprise announcement today, Barbara Broccoli admitted that the twenty-fifth James Bond adventure would never happen.

    Even worse: Broccoli announces the 25th film will be the final James Bond installment ever, but will be helmed by an un-retired Uwe Boll.
    Ball? Ew!
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I wonder when's the next concrete news coming up.

    In a surprise announcement today, Barbara Broccoli admitted that the twenty-fifth James Bond adventure would never happen.

    Even worse: Broccoli announces the 25th film will be the final James Bond installment ever, but will be helmed by an un-retired Uwe Boll.

    Uwe Bolly Live Twice
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    @Gustav_Graves I seem to recall you blasting Broccoli and Wilson (the son) a few months back too.

    I don't see any overall negativity here. Just fans expressing their desires for the future of this franchise. Some are happy (ecstatic even, it would seem) with the direction while others aren't. That's part of being a fan. It's never going to be perfect, and I would argue that the more invested one is, the more chance one is going to be disappointed by a turn of events. Not everyone wants Villeneuve for this franchise for example, and I can understand that, even though I'm open to him.

    At the end of the day, I think everyone wants the best for Bond. However, how we perceive that is very different, and depends on our own perspective, when we became a fan, what films we like the most, etc.etc. There are 50+ years of different films here, so of course not everyone is going to be on the same page. The trick is for EON to shake it up from time to time and sprinkle a little bit of love for all tastes, and that's where the versatility of the lead actor and the strength of the script matters, even today.

    I believe that the most generally appreciated films tend to be the best, because they gather praise almost unanimously from a majority of fans. That doesn't mean that we don't all have our quirky favourites (I like TMWTGG for instance).
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited October 2017 Posts: 10,591
    bondjames wrote: »
    Nobody is asking them the most important question: Namely, where are MGM with the distribution deal. These clowns are all following the bait and asking about the director.
    It seems like an obvious question to ask, given not many decisions can be made beforehand.

    I wonder when's the next concrete news coming up.
    Without a doubt, EON definitely want their director selected before the year's end, so whoever it is are able to inject their vision into the story prior to script development ramping up next year.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Take out the personal drama, delving into Bond's past and the dour overtones, up the tension and adventure.
    No, no, no! Personal drama is great, as long as it's not about Bond. (Vesper' past in CR, or Silva's and M's shared past in Skyfall.) I want drama in my Bond film as long as Bond is not the centre of it. (I agree about no delving into Bond's past.)

    Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a more dramatic Bond film but 4 films in a row and Skyfall (Which I did like.) I just feel like it's gone on far enough and I'm ready for a more TSWLM adventurous Bond film. However, Should Bond25 be more of the same, I at least hope its better than Blofeld being Bonds temporary adoptive brother.

    God. No director has been chosen yet. No story has been leaked. And we're already start complaining? Just take it easy. Otherwise Bond receives the same fate as "Star Trek" nowadays: Criticising a franchise to death before even an inch of film has premiered.

    Let's all take it easy a bit. Let's not get ahead of these things. Being critical is perfectly fine. But at this stage and in this fashion that's just a bit over the top.

    There were days when even bad Bond films were embraced by critics and fans alike. But today it seems that we really put our expectations too high; that we talk as if we are in the directors chair. It doesn't make sense.

    I agree with @Murdock that Bond 25 should be a bit more funny than it's four immediate predecessors. But we can't change this fact if we don't get a more funny Bond film. Let's stay positive.

    I'm not complaining about anything, I'm just giving my opinions on what I want. I'm not on edge or anything. I'm not getting ahead of anything, I was just replying to a comment. I don't have any expectations because I haven't seen any footage. I just want something a little lighter hearted and less melodramatic. And I'm not saying I want a funny Bond movie. Fun and adventurous doesn't me a campy comedy.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Fun and adventurous doesn't mean a campy comedy.
    Some people can't tell the difference. No need to bother explaining that to those who don't want to understand but their own, my friend.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    On this forum dear @Murdock, it seems that one belongs in two camps - "Campy Comdey" or "Gloomy Melodrama". No in-between. Which is typical for the internet. Personally I just want a great Bond for Craig's swansong.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I like a fine balanced Bond breakfast.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I like a fine balanced Bond breakfast.
    Better make that two!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 4,423
    With green figs, yoghurt, coffee, very black perchance?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Very much so yes.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    Death for breakfast?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    That makes me

    A) want to have breakfast

    and

    B) want to watch From Russia With Love.
  • GumboldGumbold Atlantis
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    ->Villeneuve confirms to several media outlets while promoting Blade Runner 2049 that he is indeed in talks with Broccoli and Craig,

    I don't think I like how much input Craig has with the Bond franchise. His performances in skyfall and spectre were very... underwhelming.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Maybe it’s nothing but I visited the main cast’s IMDb...

    Schedules

    1. Daniel Craig -2018 clear-

    2. Ben Whishaw -2018 clear-

    3. Naomie Harris -2018 clear-

    4. Lea Seydoux -2018 clear-

    5. Christoph Waltz -Currently filming a movie but no other films scheduled for 2018-

    6. Dave Bautista - Currently filming a movie but no other films scheduled for 2018-

    7. Ralph Fiennes -2018 clear-

    Maybe I am crazy but at least this is a good sign? They have the film coming out November 2019 so unfortunately that means they wouldn’t start filming until what, November-December 2018?
    It is Craig’s last film though. Hopefully they film early and then have a long period of time to edit. I doubt we will get a title and cast announcement until next fall...
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Funny, I thought he was the best thing about them. Funny how one has different interpretations.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    I rewatched Spectre and Skyfall.

    I will never understand why people love Skyfall so much. What a boring and un bond like film.. No adventure. Quantum of Solace had its ending in the desert along with an axe fight in Greene’s eccentric lair. Totally badass.

    Skyfall is Bond’s run down family home and they play home alone.. So boring.

    Spectre felt like a classic Bond film.
    You have a modern Blofeld, blofelds super cool lair and that escape scene was one of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise. Seeing Craig gun down all of those henchmen..... Spectre will always be in my top 5-8 Bond favorites. It never disappoints!

    I don’t have a problem with Craig having a producer role or helping write but I wish they would stop with the backstory. We don’t care about a backstory. I just want small talk/one liners, action, Bond girls, exotic locations and a crazy good soundtrack.
    Pretty simple. Hopefully they don’t screw up the story. I am getting really anxious though.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @CASINOROYALE, you sir deserve a medal! I share exactly the same views on the last four films! Well said, sir!
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    @CASINOROYALE, you sir deserve a medal! I share exactly the same views on the last four films! Well said, sir!

    Thank you! ;) Glad someone agrees.
    Although sadly it seems like many people hate Quantum and Spectre.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 4,619
    royale65 wrote: »
    On this forum dear @Murdock, it seems that one belongs in two camps - "Campy Comdey" or "Gloomy Melodrama". No in-between. Which is typical for the internet. Personally I just want a great Bond for Craig's swansong.
    How about a tense, dead serious thriller? 0% melodrama, 0% jokes, 100% suspense.

    @CASINOROYALE Skyfall may not have felt like a classic Bond films, that's part of the reason it's so great. And the reason people like Skyfall so much is that it's one of the very few Bond films that wasn't made for kids.
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