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The question now is why is he back? They must have an interesting script idea on the table, otherwise what is his reasoning?
Whom exactly do we know who was actually at the negotiation table? To me this all mostly is a myth. Just like to notion that Craig wants and demands sophisticated scripts. After all this is a man that starred in a movie called cowboys and aliens! Need I really say more?
If so I also could refer to his last two Bond movies which arguably are the most logic lacking in the history of a franchise that's known not to be for nitpickers.
We can debate whether that is appropriate or not (I tend to think it isn't), but we should at least acknowledge that strict logic may not be major factor behind this.
Blowing hot air. Remind you Craig is the only Bond with Production credits for a reason, he has input in everything..Story, Wardrobe and brought A list friends to the table. He bought in to it and has made the gig his own. You then made a daft comment about Craig's face. About 90% of the female population find him sexy. He's been dubbed a modern day Steve Mcqueen. He is not a pretty boy his appeal is rugged. A bit like the character Fleming created and intended Bond to be.
Slim build; a three-inch long, thin vertical scar on his right cheek; blue-grey eyes; a "cruel" mouth".
If they had given Craig dark hair he would look like Connery http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4775/4130/1600/CraigInfamousDarkHair.jpg
He did that film because Harrison Ford is his idol and wanted to work with him. Craig's outfit in Skyfall with the leather Jacket is based on Indiana Jones. Just like it was Ford who got him the Star Wars cameo.
This is not about sexy (even though I doubt that it's 90% of the female population that find him sexy ).I wrote that his face rather screams realism than escapism. Let me quote the German magazine Der Spiegel " he looks like a boxer who lost more fights than he won".
Again, it simply flies in the face of logic to assume that they would have asked him in the first place if they had wanted to stay on the old track.
Just as everything in Skyfall is based on something that was done before.
Oh, and Solace, where YOU on set to judge, who did which "bad" decision? He is co producer, so he is responsible for the whole of it as is the rest of the prods. Sure enough, and most likely some of the lesser ideas were his, as might have been some of the good ones. Never the less were those last two films highly successful, which is where it counts after all.
Sorry I must have missed that edition of Derby Spiegel that authority on Bond magazine.
Barbara Broccoli later told Vanity Fair. “We had several meetings with him. We talked him through his concerns. He’s someone who’s very professional, and he throws himself into whatever he’s doing, and he understood it’d be a long commitment.”
Daniel Craig: The script really… and Barbara badgering me. I hadn’t seen a script at that point, and I was obviously giving it serious thought then. I’d have been stupid not to. But I hadn’t seen a script and the process hadn’t really gotten going. Once I sat down and read the story, I just thought that I wanted to tell this story. I really do. I mean, I’m a big Bond fan, and I love what he represents, and it was almost slightly annoying to finally read it and go, “Oh, Jesus! It’s good!” And that was it, and we were away."
Barbara Broccoli: Well, he’s a phenomenal actor. I think he’s the actor that defies his generation of actors. I was a huge fan of his work, the films he’d made, and when we decided we were going to make “Casino Royale,” it’s obviously a big decision who we’re going to use, and he was always in the forefront of our minds. Obviously, there was a lot of stuff in the press, but the reality was that he was in the forefront, and it wasn’t until we were able to give him the script that we started talking, and once we did, things moved very quickly."
Broccoli: I think it’s very hard to compare other actors. I mean, they’ve all done movies and they were all actors in different ways. They were all of their time, and they all took the character in a direction that was successful and we were very happy with it. Now, we’re in a new phase and we’ve got a phenomenal actor. The fact is that it would be nice to make it sound like it’s all a big hocus pocus thing, the reality is we went to recast the role and we sat down and asked, “Who is the best actor around for the role?” and we said Daniel, and here he is. It’s as simple as that."
Night mate. Or gute nacht!
Might be getting ahead of myself but could we be looking at the first actor playing James Bond to get a Oscar nom? And I could definitely see him winning a Bafta if the film is good enough and if they drum up enough hype with the whole "last (Craig) Bond film" angle. There's some buzz around Hugh Jackman for Logan this year isn't there? And there was plenty around The Dark Knight, Skyfall, Fury Road. And Stallone managed to get a nomination for Creed despite being seen (wrongly, he's a brilliant actor and writer/director) as a bit of a joke since the mid to late 80s, so I think if the film is good enough and gets enough praise that sort of outweighs the usual snobbery. If they play their cards right and get the right talent involved it's definitely not out of the question imo.
Show me one comment about him before he was famous for being James Bond that related to his good looks and sexiness. I can still quite well remember what I heard people saying about him. No matter if they were men or women.
Also, I can still very well remember what women said when Brosnan was announced as Bond.
Talking about contrast!
Sleep well yourself.
They should just make a decent Bond film which embraces the character (warts and all) and leave any hopes of acting nominations alone. I don't believe Craig was hired for matinee idol looks, but he may have been hired partially for being able to project a screen confidence and masculinity which is attractive to women (and certainly to the female producer of the series in my opinion).
Don't get me wrong, I don't think they should make a film solely to win awards, but I do think that in the last few years there seems to have been a trend forming of traditionally campy/popcorny franchises and genre doing well enough to force the Academy to take notice. I was so happy to see Stallone nominated for Creed for example. Brilliant actor, especially when it comes to Rocky, but the Rambo sequels and the other action films he's done have meant he was seen as a bit of a joke. But Creed (unlike say Rocky Balboa, which deserved a lot more praise and attention than it got) was a big enough hit to transcend the images people had in their minds of 80s montages and Stallone machine gunning loads of people. I think if Bond 25 is good enough then the same could happen with Bond. They already came really close with CR and SF but I think that with the story they've set up now, there's so much potential for Craig to really show what a good dramatic actor he is.
Were you around when CR came out? The scene at the beach was one of the big talking points. Brosnan is definitely more handsome than Craig and I'm sure a lot of women prefer him but CR was the first time I can remember where the main point of sex appeal people were talking about seemed to come from James Bond himself rather than the women. Now he's obviously aged quite a bit since and can't bulk up that way again, but at the time there was a lot of buzz around Craig's sex appeal when the film came out (emphasis on when the film came out, I know that when he turned up to the press conference with that terrible haircut there was a lot of backlash).
The key word in my comment was "before". Also, I find it very telling that Craig is the first bond actor who had to bulk up substantially for the role. With all the other Bonds no one even bothered to mention their built.
He didn't have to, he chose to and said so in interviews at the time. Watch Layer Cake and he looks more fit there before the bulk up for CR than any of the other Bonds, save maybe for early Connery.
Brosnan got plenty of criticism from fans and a few critics that he was too skinny after GE came out.
No he didn't. Campbell it is famously quoted with "I wanted him to look like someone who could kill"
Brosnan by the way is still the actor who comes physically closest to Fleming's description of bond.
I don't think it was a case of him having to bulk up because he wasn't handsome enough to win over women just with his face. I think that he wanted to because he felt that it fit his approach to the role.
And it's hardly fair judging solely from before because he wasn't ready to play James Bond then. He still had a terrible haircut from some other film. He had to turn up to the press conference in a life jacket. The tabloids tore him to shreds to sell papers. Brosnan was very popular and still fresh in peoples minds. He didn't stand a chance after that first reveal and it isn't fair to judge the reaction to an actor before anyone has actually seen him in the role. Remember Moore had to lose weight and get a haircut before he filmed LALD.
The point is that by the time Craig was actually playing James Bond, women found him attractive. It doesn't matter if he wasn't a sex symbol before James Bond because he wasn't James Bond then. He got the role and then got himself ready for the role. I don't get what your problem is.
And people had definitely mentioned the build of Bond actors before. Just never in such a positive light. It was either nothing notable, or too fat. That Craig is the first Bond actor to actually get attention for his body is an achievement, not some sort of crux he had to rely on for sex appeal.
He looked pretty good in Layer Cake but as we know he's quite a bit shorter than those who've come before, and so the bulking up for CR helped to make him look stronger and more substantial.
Still, I find it very telling. Let me stress that I found that his figure in Tom raider was absolutely perfect for a member of the Secret Service and especially for a former member of the SBS, so I personally was quite astonished when they had him bulk up so unrealistically. Because one thing is for sure: secret agents don't look like that. Just think how much time you need to keep that kind of body, let alone getting it.
Thats a valid point to be fair...that isnt how Bond is/was in the books of films.
Bond isn't a real secret agent. He's meant to have all eyes on him when he enters the room, the exact opposite of what a real secret agent is supposed to be. Spies don't actually drive around in bulletproof Aston Martins and nip to space and back either. It's a film. He bulked up to make the action more credible and to make people take Bond more seriously in the eyes of the competition. I don't think every Bond actor has to be that big (personally as long as he isn't a proper twig and we never get another Connery in DAF scenario I couldn't care less what sort of shape the actor is in) but I certainly don't see it as an issue.
Fleming originally rejected that Connery on the premise that he was too muscular. Does this tell you something?
Doesn't that tell you something? Fleming was a snob. He didn't like Sean Connery, the definitive James Bond. I'm sure Fleming would have hated Craig's casting but he died decades ago and if the series had stuck solely to his vision it probably would have ended a long time ago. Don't get me wrong I love the books and I mean, he created Bond. He's a legend and by far the most important person in the history of the series. But Bond has evolved into a whole different beast since his day, so I don't think what he would have thought should the be all and end all.