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  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    Yea there's not much more Mendes could do with Bond. Glad he is moving on.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Unless there's a scenario of turning Irma Bunt into Blofeld's biological daughter seeking revenge from her so-called "uncle-like figure" (Bond) for dethroning her "father", then Sam Mendes will come back. ;)

    “When sorrows come, they come not single spies. But in battalions!”
    --Irma Bunt, quoting Hamlet.

    =))
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Would people want David Arnold to return?
    I'd prefer someone new. Arnold was a decent enough caretaker post-Barry, but I believe this is the one area where the competition has surpassed EON's best since the late 80's. So I'd prefer some new talent to give us a 'new' but fresh sound for Bond. There are several composers out there who could do this franchise justice.

    I was intrigued to learn that Henry Jackman has scoring duties for Jack Reacher 2. That will be good.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Fresh sound, yes. But, not a generic something like Hans Zimmer and his thousand imitators do in the film scoring business, these days. If there's no melody in the soundtrack, and just random notes pressed (like in the Nolan films and the Bourne films), then I might as well want the film without a background music.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Now Mendes is free to direct 'Expendables 4'. Just for kicks I'd like to see what he can do with that.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I wouldn't mind someone new coming on board, but if it's between Arnold or Newman, I'm going with the former, 100%.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Now Mendes is free to direct 'Expendables 4'. Just for kicks I'd like to see what he can do with that.
    Oh dear!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Fresh sound, yes. But, not a generic something like Hans Zimmer and his thousand imitators do in the film scoring business, these days. If there's no melody in the soundtrack, and just random notes pressed (like in the Nolan films and the Bourne films), then I might as well want the film without a background music.
    I agree. I wasn't advocating Zimmer. In fact, he has been overexposed. However, there a lot of composers who will nail Bond, if given the chance. We will see what Jackman will do for Reacher later this year, and Desplat for Rogue One.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2016 Posts: 15,718
    Antonio. Pinto.









  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Fresh sound, yes. But, not a generic something like Hans Zimmer and his thousand imitators do in the film scoring business, these days. If there's no melody in the soundtrack, and just random notes pressed (like in the Nolan films and the Bourne films), then I might as well want the film without a background music.
    I agree. I wasn't advocating Zimmer. In fact, he has been overexposed. However, there a lot of composers who will nail Bond, if given the chance. We will see what Jackman will do for Reacher later this year, and Desplat for Rogue One.
    I'd be totally up for Henry Jackman! Obviously his work on Kingsman: The Secret Service had a spectacular Bond vibe with sophistication. Not sure about Desplat, however. He's too modern for my taste. If anything, Bond should associate jazz elements in his music, because no matter the age, that's what describes him.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @ClarkDevlin

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2016 Posts: 23,883
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Fresh sound, yes. But, not a generic something like Hans Zimmer and his thousand imitators do in the film scoring business, these days. If there's no melody in the soundtrack, and just random notes pressed (like in the Nolan films and the Bourne films), then I might as well want the film without a background music.
    I agree. I wasn't advocating Zimmer. In fact, he has been overexposed. However, there a lot of composers who will nail Bond, if given the chance. We will see what Jackman will do for Reacher later this year, and Desplat for Rogue One.
    I'd be totally up for Henry Jackman! Obviously his work on Kingsman: The Secret Service had a spectacular Bond vibe with sophistication. Not sure about Desplat, however. He's too modern for my taste. If anything, Bond should associate jazz elements in his music, because no matter the age, that's what describes him.
    Agree 100% on the jazz aspect. That was the brilliance of Barry, drawing from his past.

    While unrelated, Quincy Jones did the same thing, bringing his jazz influence to Michael Jackson's Off the Wall and later Thriller & Bad - the results were spectacular.

    Jazz and Bond go hand in hand. It's essential.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Would people want David Arnold to return?

    I would. If not him, I would choose Christopher Lennertz or Alexandre Desplat.
  • TuuliaTuulia
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Would people want David Arnold to return?

    I wouldn't.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    @ClarkDevlin

    I don't know, mate. It's still too modern for me. Never been fond of that music.
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Fresh sound, yes. But, not a generic something like Hans Zimmer and his thousand imitators do in the film scoring business, these days. If there's no melody in the soundtrack, and just random notes pressed (like in the Nolan films and the Bourne films), then I might as well want the film without a background music.
    I agree. I wasn't advocating Zimmer. In fact, he has been overexposed. However, there a lot of composers who will nail Bond, if given the chance. We will see what Jackman will do for Reacher later this year, and Desplat for Rogue One.
    I'd be totally up for Henry Jackman! Obviously his work on Kingsman: The Secret Service had a spectacular Bond vibe with sophistication. Not sure about Desplat, however. He's too modern for my taste. If anything, Bond should associate jazz elements in his music, because no matter the age, that's what describes him.
    Agree 100% on the jazz aspect. That was the brilliance of Barry, drawing from his past.

    While unrelated, Quincy Jones did the same thing, bringing his jazz influence to Michael Jackson's Off the Wall and later Thriller & Bad - the results were spectacular.

    Jazz and Bond go hand in hand. It's essential.
    100% agreed! I've always loved Quincy Jones' works (apart from The Italian Job with "Self Preservation Society"), especially The Hot Rock. Didn't he parody the Bond sound in the Austin Powers films? He pulled it off brilliantly. It really baffles me though how they've never asked Lalo Schifrin to do a Bond score. His spy sound in a way is different from Barry's, yet it's identifiable with the generic spy tune. I would've loved to have him on board.
    Walecs wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Would people want David Arnold to return?

    I would. If not him, I would choose Christopher Lennertz or Alexandre Desplat.
    While Lennertz did the music for the video game adaptations of both From Russia With Love and Quantum of Solace, his music really felt off for me, especially with the former. It seemed like he was composing a World War II film rather than a spy adventure with FRWL. His interpretation of The James Bond Theme in QoS was beyond weak, even worse than Barry's efforts for Octopussy.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    ALEXANDRE DESPLAT
    I said it long ago. I'll say it till judgment day.

    But then after Newman it is very easy to do better, so no matter who they will choose it's automatically an improvement.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I think it was once or twice (max) when he said he wanted to quite after doing Skyfall. But, he insisted moving away from Bond this time on more than one occasion. So, hopefully, the word revolving around him is true. Even though I appreciated Spectre bringing back some of the old Bond formulas, I hated how the story played out. I'm very keen to see another Casino Royale in Craig's run. Same atmosphere. Same cinematography. Same pacing. Same amount of character development. And no romance or "emotional" story, please. Just a normal spy thriller.

    Me too, but I don't see that coming any time soon, whether Craig stays or not. That kind of film happens once every 20 years.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Superintendent wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I think it was once or twice (max) when he said he wanted to quite after doing Skyfall. But, he insisted moving away from Bond this time on more than one occasion. So, hopefully, the word revolving around him is true. Even though I appreciated Spectre bringing back some of the old Bond formulas, I hated how the story played out. I'm very keen to see another Casino Royale in Craig's run. Same atmosphere. Same cinematography. Same pacing. Same amount of character development. And no romance or "emotional" story, please. Just a normal spy thriller.

    Me too, but I don't see that coming any time soon, whether Craig stays or not. That kind of film happens once every 20 years.
    It says a lot about the producers, doesn't it?
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Yes. And the writers.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Every decade has its masterpiece. It doesn't take 20 years.
    Goldfinger - The Spy Who Loved Me - The Living Daylights - GoldenEye - Casino Royale - Spectre
    That's good enough for me with the also mostly very good films in between.
  • moneyofpropre2moneyofpropre2 France
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/06/sam-mendes-confirms-spectre-last-james-bond-movie-daniel-craig-007

    -> Friday 6 November 2015 12.30 GMT

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    moneyofpropre2 wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/nov/06/sam-mendes-confirms-spectre-last-james-bond-movie-daniel-craig-007

    -> Friday 6 November 2015 12.30 GMT

    Which didn't mean much then, either, as the article states he said the exact same thing after SF. So, hearing this confirmation again is pretty nice.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    After SF I really hoped Mendes is history. Little did I know, that he is capable of doing such great things to Bond. With Spectre he has returned the franchise on track of producing Bond movies that deserve the name. No more ridiculous reboots or Bond begins nonsense. I hope EON has learned from that mistake.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    It's interesting that Mendes is teaming up again with Spielberg and Dreamworks for the first time since 'American Beauty'. It looks like after his foray into big-budget action territory Sam wants to return to the prestige world. It's also interesting to see Mendes going back to concept he has explored before - morality in suburbia.

    I still don't think this rules out Bond 25. I genuinely think that Craig's involvement is dependent on Mendes and EON know it. I feel all parties are willing to wait till everyone is free before doing the next film. In fact the news of Mendes's next project coming so soon after the release of Spectre is good news as it suggests that the ball will hopefully roll quickly on this project and he can come into Bond 25 straight after. Just like how Christopher Nolan always did another picture between his Batman films. Now I know you're thinking that Mendes made SF and SP back-to-back, but remember inbetween he directed several theatre productions (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, King Lear and Cabaret). The Voyeur's Motel is clearly going to be his palette cleanser before Bond 25.

    I'm convinced Mendes will return. I feel that he elevated the brand with SF and produced a great action thriller that was more thoughtful and stylised than you'd typically expect. Spectre is more of a romp in comparison and I found Mendes's direction a tad lazy and formulaic if I'm honest. But I feel that Mendes needs to finish his arc with Craig, especially considering that Oberhauser/Blofeld and Madeleine are essentially his characters. He's the only one who can see out Craig's era (DC has to come back - right?!)

    However, in terms of possible replacements I'd love Steve Soderburgh to direct a Bond. I recently saw Haywire and I think he'd nail the action and more importantly the tone.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I'd definitely want a reboot, after Craig departs, with a properly portrayed Bond and the rest of the recurring characters remaining intact with the source material counterparts. But, I certainly don't want a Bond Begins story. I'd rather have a mid-career experiencing Bond with a straightforward assignment as the story object like we've had it with Dr. No.

    As for Soderbergh, I semi-like him and his work on the Ocean's Trilogy and Haywire, but the latter was somewhat slow paced and disappointing. It was promoted as a thriller yet it lacked the edge in the film despite being a good entertainment piece. I think Soderbergh has a very sarcastic and cynical touch in composing the portrait of his films, and I believe it would've embraced the template of The Man from UNCLE had he directed it with the spirit of the original show remaining intact. But, he's not the Bond material type of a film director.
  • DisneyBond007DisneyBond007 Welwyn Garden City
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    How about the composer for Bond 25: John Debney, who compose a Doctor Who TV film and the 2016 live-action remake of "The Jungle Book".
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    edited April 2016 Posts: 1,970
    Yea I'm out on David Arnold too. I want to hear fresh sounds.


    My dream composer would be John Williams because I would loved to just see what he can do with Bond
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    John Williams would be terrific for Bond, too!
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    John Williams would be terrific for Bond, too!
    He would, actually. Do you think he'd do it?
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    jake24 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    John Williams would be terrific for Bond, too!
    He would, actually. Do you think he'd do it?
    Tbh if he hasn't done one by now he will never IMO. Unless Speilberg directs a Bond
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