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Honestly, I have hope they can deliver with the next one. I believe they can do larger than life while keeping things grounded. Something perhaps like a bio-terrorism plot (something that can inject the shock and awe component) while keeping the storyline more about filtering through red herrings to peel back the layers of the onion. Easy to say, hard to execute, I know, but I think it's still in the realm of possibility.
The Fleming content in Casino Royale is clear that Bond's assignments were to kill a chosen individual. To me that's also assassination. I should also say I'm not holding a strict meaning requiring a political or religious motive. Assassination as killing a targeted person is enough.
Casino Royale. In conversation with Vesper. Much later with Mathis.
Seems like it. These facts and the motivation to go out on a bang/ apparent recognition of past mistakes cause me to have confidence this time.
I am optimistic about it as well. They will realize CR and SF were way more successful in part bc they didn’t have to rely on any of the other films. At least I hope. I like QoS and SP too, just not as much.
Bollocks I totally forgot that passage. I had in my head for a minute that that was from Pearson and the only reference in CR was with Vesper. Need to reread it again.
Nonetheless congratulations Sir you win the million pound prize that has gone unclaimed for donkeys years for proving the Wizard to be demonstrably wrong about something.
However the point still stands that it's extremely rare for Fleming to send Bond off on a pure assassination mission. The two kills for 00 status might even be testing whether or not he has the bollocks to pull the trigger if necessary.
Good call actually. Seems like P&W have read that passage in CR and become convinced that Bond is just an executioner. Fleming would be aghast at the above line from M about terminating Patrice for Ronson as that reduces MI6 and the 00 'program' (words cannot describe how much I despise the use of that word in SP. I think I loathe it worse than the stepbrother stuff) to SMERSH dishing out revenge killings.
But on the other side of the argument he showed mercy to Blofeld and let Whyte (Spectre) and Green (QOS) decide their own fate. He also passed up on the opportunity to kill Silva (Skyfall).
Referring to it as a "program" rather than the Double-O-Section feels wrong. I wonder who came up with that.
If I recall, Fleming's Bond had a strong respect for the fact he could kill well. Although he was good at it, he didn't particularly like that part of his job. He wouldn't do it if he really didn't have to. In TLD story and film he shoots the gun out of Trigger/Kara's hand. Even later in the film when sent to eliminate Pushkin, he prefers to follow his instinct and investigate.
I still contend however that the way Bond has been portrayed over the past few films is more superhero than paid Govt. spy, policeman, or however else you may want to think of him -with backstory, childhood 'coming of age' cave & blatant heroism themes etc.. As I said, I'm quite sure it's an attempt to play into the current fascination with all things Marvel/DC & it's been quite successful for EON to date.
I still believe the next outing will continue on that path with a Logan'esque finale (I don't mean the same conclusion as that film, but rather a similar path of desolation, set some years after the events of SP. A film where he comes to terms with his life choices). It's the logical path, and gives Craig some meat to delve into, which accounts for his interest in returning. I can't see him jumping up and down for the TSWLM/GF route, because for all intents and purposes they tried that already with SP, to mixed results.
Thank you for taking the time for this apt job description for Mr. Fleming's creation. I am also completely fed up with this assassin and 00 program and whatever stuff.
"Look, my friend. I've got to commit a murder tonight. Not you. Me. So, be a good chap and stuff it. You can tell them anything you like when it's over. You think I like this job? Having the Double-O number and so on? I'd be happy if you get me sacked from the 00-Section, so I could settle down and make a snug nest of papers as an ordinary staffer. Right?"
Bond did what he had to do and when he had to. He didn't like killing but he wasn't afraid to carry it out.
You are of course absolutely right, because with the amount of creativity and talent currently housed at EON they much more prefer to cater unconditionally simply to current fashion trends instead of wondering what exactly it was, that made this franchise survive for some 50+ years. Presumably they will cling to the melodrama train until two movies after the trend has already fed up everyone and his brother.
White is already destined to die from poisoning ( which in a only slightly more intelligent written script would beg the question why they chose to send some hit men after him, but since it's only SP ...) and to send someone with nothing but a can of oil into a desert is not really my idea of let him choose his own fate.
P.S.: Bonds inner turmoil in FYEO when he is sent to snuff some people of whom he knows, that they killed an old, peaceful couple just for profit actually just tell us anything about Bonds mental constitution as an "assassin". This man really needs a convincing reason to kill otherwise he just isn't able to handle it psychologically. Those two kills in second world war fit that description. Their dead probably saved dozens, if not thousands of lives.
Tamahori had it sorted.
Code name theory?
'It was all the confirmation she needed that Mary Smith had, through carelessness, signed Sir Peregrine Carruthers' s death warrant.'
Great bit of dialogue.
Connery to Brosnan, Bond was a spy.
Craig is just an assassin. A government hit man. His job is to kill. Casino Royale was the only film where he actually did some spy work.
Connery was a Spy, and Dalton is a Spy, brosnan, moore, and Lazenby are just there for the ride
The past 9 years were a real real hard hard life for Bond fans.....if I read this *sigh*.
I love Daniel Craig! I just feel like the era of Bond being a spy is gone. I miss that. Craig just feels like a hit man at this point. Is he really that different when compared to Jason Bourne?
Hopefully the next movie has him being a secret agent again.
What did M say in Spectre
“Find him and kill him”
Not, “Find him. Follow him. Find out all you can about the organization he’s working for. Kill him and bring that organization down Bond. They are responsible for everything..”
... which leads Bond to SPECTRE and Blofeld. And he does shut them down.
I don't think we can call him a real spy till he's a Zorro, too.
Let's not forget the end of TMWTGG when instead of just putting a bullet into Scaramanga like the cold blooded assassin we are told he is in SF and SP, he dithers and shows a bit of mercy to let his quarry have a final prayer and very nearly gets himself killed.
As you know 20th Century Fox currently is the home entertainment distributor of the James Bond films, making renegotiation about this deal important as well. Ooowh, and 20th Century Fox is one of the parties vying for the global distribution rights of the actual Bond films.
I call this substantial news.