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I'm not an expert re EON. Who is the next generation?
It'll be quite an upsetting day for me if that happens: I can see it now - three separate new eras filming simultaneously with new actors as Bond, Q spinoffs, M spinoffs, MI6 employee spinoffs, a Blofeld prequel, DN prequel, TV shows, Bond-related films and shows on their streaming service, and more.
I don't want them taking three or four years to release a new movie every single time, but I definitely don't want an oversaturation of it all, either.
This. The idea of them selling is always a possibility, but I agree it won’t be all about money. There will be some caveats. A sale doesn’t = expanded universe in my opinion. It would be nowhere near as route one as some people are suggesting.
The problem with this is that an expanded Bond universe won’t be driven by creativity, it will inevitably be driven by money. Nobody is looking at the series thinking, ‘Guys, if only we could get our hands on Bond just think of all the great stories we could tell’.
Is SF such a dreadful defintion of success? I have no problem with that. So we have to trust the public to stear the producers into the right direction.
To me, SF is a good story (I know not all agree) but it ain't no stinker. Good stories make money. Disney know that (from their classics) more than anyone else.
But this is exactly what happens already, so the sale/expanded universe chat is moot.
A true Bond every 4 years with a spin off every 4 years? It's a business model that some could see as tempting. Could that make more cash gross than the present default situation?
entertainment.inquirer.net/261992/monica-bellucci-makes-bond-film-shed-like-lot-fight-scenes-daniel-craig
“I would come back if Lucia Sciarra, my character, would be a very powerful Mafia boss and fight with Bond all along. So it would be great,” Monica Bellucci revealed her wish in case she makes another 007 film.
“I have to say that I really loved working with Daniel Craig. He’s a generous man, a great actor,” the stunning Italian actress said. “He’s in James Bond movies, but he also did amazing intimate films. He’s very polite. He has this masculinity and, at the same time, he’s very shy. I like that very much.”
Sorry, I just don’t see the model. In this hypothetical scenario what would you personally launch as that first Bond spin off - something that you’d be looking to bring in $400-500m?
If the character in question is played by a top name actor looking to get into a regular tv series, there is an added marketing benefit and credibility.
So it's possible to branch out into other mediums using Bond film global audiences to introduce characters.
Marvel did that with Agent Phil Coulson.
I said some may see it as tempting, I did not say I personally thought it was a good idea but, for the sake of doing any real work, a decent female double 0 agent that we are introduced to via a mainstream Bond gets a spin off. If they knw in advance she was going to spin off, they would give a decent character/back story that could be explored later. The full support of the usual suspects with Bond assisting in the PTS to get things going. Again, I'm not saying it's going to happen but if there is money to be made, it will be considered.
Tapping into new markets (gender, age, geographical) is also part of it.
Or just make ‘The Rhythm Section’ and avoid the hassle of having to tie anything to Bond to give the perception of a ‘universe’.
As side note, this idea of just ‘giving someone a great back story’ - you make it sound like it’s just something you do. Simple. Nailing down characters and stories that are special enough to make some sort of cultural impact is especially difficult in this age of over-saturation.
If the character doesn’t catch that’s it. Look at DC, they can’t even produce or market characters with huge cultural currency to decent effect.
"The Rythm Section" or "Double O Nine - First Kill"
Which one will most easily gain the public's and media attention? Most cinema punters are a little lazy. If there is a familier World that they can slip into (like a cozy pair of slippers) they will do so. Familier supporting cast, tone, style , plot etc. I know which movie I would rather market. Plus you have all of the production expertise/expereince to make these type of movies.
Im not defending this from an artistic perspective but, financially, it makes sense.
Jeff Sneider. Great guy, very thrustworthy, always in the know (unlike Scott Feinberg aka "the poor man's Jeff Sneider"). I think he knows something.
Only in the short term. You inevitably dilute your IP in this scenario. While the money men are vicious, they aren’t stupid.
EDIT: It’s also worth noting that in a hypothetical ‘we’re buying Bond and expanding the canvas’ scenario, you need a show runner on the level of Kevin Feige and that man is a rarity.
Many people look at the franchise landscape and think it’s DC that are terrible. They aren’t actually. They’re actually doing what most producers would do, it’s just that Marvel are so uniquely brilliant at this game, it makes it look easy. It’s the exact opposite.
SW is evidence of that imo. Completely unable to turn out a film that isn’t divisive in some way. A scattergun approach, with tonal inconsistencies. That series is covered by almost infinite loyalty amongst its hardcore.
If it was to be done in some way, as Bondjames suggested, something smaller in scale (TV Show) would seem logical, but a cinematic universe? I just don’t see the numbers stacking up.
I suspect that Jeff Sneider is merely paying reference to the fact that we are around 9 months away from the film entering production and we don't know who the director or studio is for Bond 25. It's probably the only big studio tentpole film of 2019 that has had such a shockingly small amount of news reported.
They've been quiet for far too long.
There’s no way! I thought that too, but there must be in more in place than we think, otherwise Craig wouldn’t have come back.
I still have problems to believe that the man who starred in the two most logic defying bond movies of all time and a movie titled cowboys and aliens cares for anything but a healthy paycheck.
Are you inquiring about his integrity?
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