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  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Peter Thiel (founder of PayPal) would make the basis for a great Bond villain. You could barely make this guy up. There are a lot of elements in this piece that sound like they would fit right into a Bond movie. Anti democratic, Trump-supporting super rich businessman planning for the end times and obsessed with owning his own country. Replace the author with Bond and your half way to a decent Bond plot. Even the artist and gallery elements could be worked in.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,243
    I'm still pulling for George Soros in megalomaniac role ;)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    talos7 wrote: »
    I'm still pulling for George Soros in megalomaniac role ;)
    Better make that two. ;)
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,675
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    I'm still pulling for George Soros in megalomaniac role ;)
    Better make that two. ;)

    Never heard of him.
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    One of the issues writers have now is that the real life has out stripped fiction. The idea of a privately funded mega rocket launching sports cars into orbit was just silly back in the 60s. And if you created a character like Trump as president? beyond silly
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
    Posts: 1,162
    bondjames wrote: »
    Well that is certainly his Bruno Cucinelli jacket. The same one that he wore for that hurricane charity telethon last year.
    7ERmskm.jpg

    This is Craig from two days ago in London with chef Michael Nadra, for reference (no airbrushing here).
    K4t9DOm.jpg

    Certainly these are more realistic accounts of the way he looks these days than that Austin Martin picture. Well fed, I'd say
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
    Posts: 1,162
    patb wrote: »
    One of the issues writers have now is that the real life has out stripped fiction. The idea of a privately funded mega rocket launching sports cars into orbit was just silly back in the 60s. And if you created a character like Trump as president? beyond silly

    I don't see this as issues, but rather as new possibilities.
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/16/times-finally-up-for-hollywoods-lolita-complex

    Is it "PC gone mad?" or common sense to see Bond with a woman of the same age? Are younger Bond girls a reflection of Bond's floored character (therefore part of the context of the movie) or a reflection of Hollywood values?

    I think its a fair debate. (The article pics some extreme examples but mainstream movies do it all the time. Watched Oblivion last night with Cruise 17 years older than his wife)
  • DennisonDennison
    Posts: 1,031
    bondjames wrote: »
    Well that is certainly his Bruno Cucinelli jacket. The same one that he wore for that hurricane charity telethon last year.
    7ERmskm.jpg

    This is Craig from two days ago in London with chef Michael Nadra, for reference (no airbrushing here).
    K4t9DOm.jpg

    He looks a right lah-de-dah with that scarf around his neck.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    patb wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/16/times-finally-up-for-hollywoods-lolita-complex

    Is it "PC gone mad?" or common sense to see Bond with a woman of the same age? Are younger Bond girls a reflection of Bond's floored character (therefore part of the context of the movie) or a reflection of Hollywood values?

    I think its a fair debate. (The article pics some extreme examples but mainstream movies do it all the time. Watched Oblivion last night with Cruise 17 years older than his wife)
    For me it comes down to aesthetics. Film making is a visual medium and it's an acting medium too. Cruise still looks youthful (and particularly so when he did Oblivion). He takes care of himself and is virile. So why shouldn't he star next to a younger 'girl'. The same applied to Roger Moore in the earlier part of his Bond tenure, and Cary Grant all the way up to the end. It's really not about age as it is more about credibility.

    The same thing goes for the woman. I wouldn't want Bond films contorting to accommodate older women in order to stretch the bounds of credibility. So if a woman is 'mature' but still quite sexy and physically appealing, then go for it. She is entitled to be in a Bond film as a lover. Monica Bellucci qualified in SP (just imho). That's about as far as I'd take it though and there's no need to do that with every film. Once every decade or so (to match a visibly aging lead actor) is enough.

    What I don't want to see is some sort of obvious pandering or statement making within the Bond universe. This series is not the place for that imho.

    I still contend that the producers royally blew it when they dumped Dench as M. Not only did they lose a character and actress who elevated Craig (and other actors around her), but they lost a large part of their leverage over the increasingly vocal PC crowd. Now they have a black secretary. Whoopee.
  • DennisonDennison
    Posts: 1,031
    bondjames wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/16/times-finally-up-for-hollywoods-lolita-complex

    Is it "PC gone mad?" or common sense to see Bond with a woman of the same age? Are younger Bond girls a reflection of Bond's floored character (therefore part of the context of the movie) or a reflection of Hollywood values?

    I think its a fair debate. (The article pics some extreme examples but mainstream movies do it all the time. Watched Oblivion last night with Cruise 17 years older than his wife)
    For me it comes down to aesthetics. Film making is a visual medium and it's an acting medium too. Cruise still looks youthful (and particularly so when he did Oblivion). He takes care of himself and is virile. So why shouldn't he star next to a younger 'girl'. The same applied to Roger Moore in the earlier part of his Bond tenure, and Cary Grant all the way up to the end. It's really not about age as it is more about credibility.

    The same thing goes for the woman. I wouldn't want Bond films contorting to accommodate older women in order to stretch the bounds of credibility. So if a woman is 'mature' but still quite sexy and physically appealing, then go for it. She is entitled to be in a Bond film as a lover. Monica Bellucci qualified in SP (just imho). That's about as far as I'd take it though and there's no need to do that with every film. Once every decade or so (to match a visibly aging lead actor) is enough.

    What I don't want to see is some sort of obvious pandering or statement making within the Bond universe. This series is not the place for that imho.

    I still contend that the producers royally blew it when they dumped Dench as M. Not only did they lose a character and actress who elevated Craig (and other actors around her), but they lost a large part of their leverage over the increasingly vocal PC crowd. Now they have a black secretary. Whoopee.

    Bond and Stacey in AVTAK is a bit cringey.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Dennison wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/16/times-finally-up-for-hollywoods-lolita-complex

    Is it "PC gone mad?" or common sense to see Bond with a woman of the same age? Are younger Bond girls a reflection of Bond's floored character (therefore part of the context of the movie) or a reflection of Hollywood values?

    I think its a fair debate. (The article pics some extreme examples but mainstream movies do it all the time. Watched Oblivion last night with Cruise 17 years older than his wife)
    For me it comes down to aesthetics. Film making is a visual medium and it's an acting medium too. Cruise still looks youthful (and particularly so when he did Oblivion). He takes care of himself and is virile. So why shouldn't he star next to a younger 'girl'. The same applied to Roger Moore in the earlier part of his Bond tenure, and Cary Grant all the way up to the end. It's really not about age as it is more about credibility.

    The same thing goes for the woman. I wouldn't want Bond films contorting to accommodate older women in order to stretch the bounds of credibility. So if a woman is 'mature' but still quite sexy and physically appealing, then go for it. She is entitled to be in a Bond film as a lover. Monica Bellucci qualified in SP (just imho). That's about as far as I'd take it though and there's no need to do that with every film. Once every decade or so (to match a visibly aging lead actor) is enough.

    What I don't want to see is some sort of obvious pandering or statement making within the Bond universe. This series is not the place for that imho.

    I still contend that the producers royally blew it when they dumped Dench as M. Not only did they lose a character and actress who elevated Craig (and other actors around her), but they lost a large part of their leverage over the increasingly vocal PC crowd. Now they have a black secretary. Whoopee.

    Bond and Stacey in AVTAK is a bit cringey.
    Most definitely, as was Bond and Madeline to an extent imho. When the Bond actor is visibly aging, then it's appropriate to go down the older actress path (like in OP) to compensate imho. I just wouldn't want to see a habit of it.
  • Bernie99Bernie99
    Posts: 257
    Julie Benz would be awesome as Bond-Girl

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited February 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Too American for a Bond Girl, in my opinion. Last time we had that was Jill St. John, and her character didn't fair well with me, at all.
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    If the character is written properly, I think the nationality is not the issue. We have had some poorly written and cast USA Bond girls in the past: very poor actually and I think that taints our opinion moving forward
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    It’s not the American nationality of the character that bothers me. It’s the attitude of the generic American actress identity that I don’t see quite fitting for a Bond Girl. I mean, there are brilliant actresses around, and I’ll list Olivia Wilde as one, but Julie Benz for example has that look that doesn’t sit well with me for a Bond Girl. I can see her as a detective type in a crime thriller, but not as a Bond Girl.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited February 2018 Posts: 1,756
    bondjames wrote: »
    Well that is certainly his Bruno Cucinelli jacket. The same one that he wore for that hurricane charity telethon last year.
    7ERmskm.jpg

    This is Craig from two days ago in London with chef Michael Nadra, for reference (no airbrushing here).
    K4t9DOm.jpg

    Really not sure how they're gonna fix him up in 25, he looks quite bad there but looked CR-esque in that Aston photoshoot. Maybe it's a matter of effort.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    An announcement has to be imminent.

    First we get this photo of Craig (looking very Bond-esque) and now the Bond in Motion event in March. Hopefully these are signs that something is coming soon.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 579
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    An announcement has to be imminent.

    First we get this photo of Craig (looking very Bond-esque) and now the Bond in Motion event in March. Hopefully these are signs that something is coming soon.

    One can hope that Arnold will let slip at the event in March that he is returning to score Bond 25. Not likely though.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,243
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Well that is certainly his Bruno Cucinelli jacket. The same one that he wore for that hurricane charity telethon last year.
    7ERmskm.jpg

    This is Craig from two days ago in London with chef Michael Nadra, for reference (no airbrushing here).
    K4t9DOm.jpg

    Really not sure how they're gonna fix him up in 25, he looks quit bad there but looked CR-esque in that Aston photoshoot. Maybe it's a matter of effort.

    After some time in the gym, along with hair and makeup, he’ll be good to go.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    talos7 wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Well that is certainly his Bruno Cucinelli jacket. The same one that he wore for that hurricane charity telethon last year.
    7ERmskm.jpg

    This is Craig from two days ago in London with chef Michael Nadra, for reference (no airbrushing here).
    K4t9DOm.jpg

    Really not sure how they're gonna fix him up in 25, he looks quit bad there but looked CR-esque in that Aston photoshoot. Maybe it's a matter of effort.

    After some time in the gym, along with hair and makeup, he’ll be good to go.
    I certainly hope they are more successful with it than they were in SP. The touching up they did there (digitally) was as ineffective & sometimes as strange as Sir Rog's eye job in AVTAK, and took me out of the film. I would prefer if they just play to his age rather than trying to mask it in an overt manner.
  • SonofSeanSonofSean
    Posts: 202
    Craig is looking very dapper. He keeps in brilliant shape and the great clothes on his back help. They should start shooting within 10-12 months, so he will be in great shape for Bond 25. He's also younger than Tom Cruise who is doing some incredible stunt work at the moment, so here's hoping we see a real physical movie with amazing in camera stunts like we got with Casino Royale.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Where in SP did they digitally touch up his face?
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,853
    In spite of so many Americans writing bond films I feel Americans have never been written well with the exception of Felix in the reboot universe and Maybe Henderson’s Felix.. it’s a sad day when are Christmas Jones is the best written American bond girl
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Where in SP did they digitally touch up his face?
    PTS in Mexico on the streets and at Blofeld's lair (both he and Seydoux were very obviously touched up to me) for one. They were trying to remove something around the eyes (shadow or crow's feet) and to me it's quite noticeable because it doesn't look real. The eyes tell a lot.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited February 2018 Posts: 41,009
    Getafix wrote: »
    Peter Thiel (founder of PayPal) would make the basis for a great Bond villain. You could barely make this guy up. There are a lot of elements in this piece that sound like they would fit right into a Bond movie. Anti democratic, Trump-supporting super rich businessman planning for the end times and obsessed with owning his own country. Replace the author with Bond and your half way to a decent Bond plot. Even the artist and gallery elements could be worked in.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand

    I've always thought Guy Boucher, the coach for the NHL's Ottawa Senators has a very Bondian villain look to him. Hell, even Googling him, I got through a few rows of images before a shot of Le Chiffre appeared.

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  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,588
    Risico007 wrote: »
    In spite of so many Americans writing bond films I feel Americans have never been written well with the exception of Felix in the reboot universe and Maybe Henderson’s Felix.. it’s a sad day when are Christmas Jones is the best written American bond girl

    I would love to see David Harbour return as Gregory Beam in B25.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Peter Thiel (founder of PayPal) would make the basis for a great Bond villain. You could barely make this guy up. There are a lot of elements in this piece that sound like they would fit right into a Bond movie. Anti democratic, Trump-supporting super rich businessman planning for the end times and obsessed with owning his own country. Replace the author with Bond and your half way to a decent Bond plot. Even the artist and gallery elements could be worked in.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/feb/15/why-silicon-valley-billionaires-are-prepping-for-the-apocalypse-in-new-zealand

    I've always thought Guy Boucher, the coach for the NHL's Ottawa Senators has a very Bondian villain look to him. Hell, even Googling him, I got through a few rows of images before a shot of Le Chiffre appeared.

    w768xh576_GettyImages-485004246.jpg?ts=1462727559

    If we're going the sports route: Bond vs FIFA, surely.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
    Posts: 2,541
    Lea Seydoux new film: is set to begin next year in Paris, Hamburg, Budapest and the South of Italy.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/lea-seydoux-star-new-film-director-ildiko-enyedi-1084662
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    That rules Madeleine out. Good.
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