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I don’t think we’d agree on much...
Very good: SF, QoS
Good: TND, DAD
Meh: TWINE
And then there's SP...
Which scene was that?
I quite liked the way he made the moves on Miranda too.
I've never seen Craig as a convincing womanizer. He seems a bit stiff and scripted.
At first I thought the 4 year wait between SP & B25 was a cautionary thing due to getting burned with rushing QOS into production but then again, they had another long wait between SF and SP and rushed that too. Looks like a case of history repeating itself here.
I like how the wait between QOS and SF turned out though, since SF was a separate story and ended up being one of my favorites. Perhaps it will be more like that!
You've forgotten the retcon - it's not a separate story any more!
I was just trying to say what I said - don't remember mentioning any other film than DAD ...
(Not holding my breath).
Will the training regiment go out the wind for 48 hours?
Hard to eat well and exercise when you have the hangover from hell. 3:-O
I've been concerned with their abilities as film producers for a while now and quite frankly I don't care how long they've been in the game they do NOT get a free pass or excused just because they're the heirs and key holders to the Bond property. They should know better in comparison to the highly questionable decisions they've been making for far too long. I honestly feel they're doing a terrible job as producers, especially given their experience and I feel that outside of casting Craig, they've done nothing to really push the boat out in effectively making changes to usher the franchise forward in a creatively rewarding way.
DAD is dumb, but the story flows and invites me in, and as I said, DAD is a perfect persiflage of a Bond film and doesn´t pretentiously try to be anything else.
I doubt the training regiment has even begun...
IF the movie begins filming by the end of this year, Craig probably won't start training until June or July.
I'm coming around to agreeing with you. I was viewing their tenure on Bond with rose tinted glasses, being far too lenient with them. I never thought I'd say this but at this point in time given the mess with B25 (release date announced 6 months ago yet no director or storyline in place) I'd almost before happier if EON did sell on their rights.
Great - TND, TWINE, QOS, SF
Good - DAD
Shouldn't have been made - SP
You were laughed at and mocked for very good reason. The idea they’re incompetent is laughable. You haven’t the slightest clue what you’re talking about.
I don't know enough about their internal viewpoints to form an opinion, but from where I'm sitting they've certainly shown us that don't have a clue how to deliver formula properly. Instead, they've gone off on creative tangents, for better (in some cases) and for worse (in other cases).
I may be wrong, but I just get a feeling they need a shakeup in some way shape or form, with new blood in the form of an actor, a director, a writer or even a corporate partner. That's why Boyle/Hodge is at least a bit encouraging, but I sincerely hope for more fundamental shifts.
You have zero information about B25 and a minute slither about SP. I could tell you some very interesting facts regarding SP that would light up this forum. The leaks have you deluded, Sir, but then as they say, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You’re testament to that.
There’s a very astute Arctic Monkeys lyric that talks of the naysayers as ‘Thinking ‘bout things, but not actually doing the things’. You fall firmly into that camp. You’ve no first hand knowledge of the process so your sweeping statements carry no weight. Others are a little more measured in their negativity and don’t come across as childish.
Very true.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/danny-boyle-richard-curtis-team-universal-comedy-1089881
If this news is correct, then either Boyle isn't directing Bond 25 or Bond 25 will be delayed.
Despite seeing what a total shambles Disney have made of the new Star Wars trilogy I find myself struggling to disagree with you.
They got lucky with SF thanks to the Olympics, Adele and the 50th anniversary bump but, writer's strike notwithstanding, QOS was flawed, SF got away with it, but again the script is very Emmenthal like, and the less said about SP's script the better. And that's just the last 10 years.
GE is a reasonably solid entry (although personally I find the script too front loaded - we spend far too long in Monaco and with Natlaya so that by the time Bond actually gets on his mission half the film is over) but TND, TWINE and DAD have, respectively, a computer game script, an overly melodramatic but at least reasonably original script and a good initial idea but utterly botched script.
The best script by far of the post Cubby era is CR and I don't think it's a coincidence that it's the only one that has a Fleming spine.
I'm not criticising their ability to organise the general logistics of such mammoth undertakings but some of their artistic decisions, particularly regarding the writing and ceding too much authority to their star and director, are questionable in the extreme.
The parallels between EON and Arsenal's current predicament are striking. We're a long time since the trophy filled years of the 60s and despite the odd FA Cup triumph (GE, CR) we seem to be stuck in a rut of diminishing returns. The question is would we prefer to continue to keep blind faith with an EON who seem to be consistently behind the curve (the Bourne and Dark Knight copying was pretty tragic for a series that used to be the brand leader of action cinema, not to mention that when it comes to spectacular stuntwork MI is the go to franchise nowadays) or would we prefer a change, without being really sure what that means?
In EON we trust? Before SP I would have unequivocally stated yes. But now I'm simply not sure.
They don't help things with this apparent need (seemingly at the expense of Bond) to make other films that no one is particularly interested in seeing. If they don't want to make Bond films any more then fine - sell the rights to someone who does. I think I'd rather take the gamble of a new owner than people who no longer seem bothered about making Bond films and just go through the motions after increasingly long gaps.
With good reason. I agree that some of their decisions have been terrible but that's not the same as one of us mugs (and I'm very much including you there) taking control of the whole thing and delivering it on time and on budget.
All they really need is someone to tell them 'Stop. That's a shocking idea. Think about what you are doing' from time to time to keep them on the straight and narrow. That they apparently need someone to do this is pretty depressing though.
'Once again'? I think we all missed the first time.
I also have rather low hopes for B25 but the idea that something based entirely on your supposition that hasn't even happened yet can be regarded as proof and vindication of your spoutings is rather misguided to say the least.
Agree with this.
Don't agree with this as their is simply not enough data to base it on. Not optimistic though.