No Time To Die: Production Diary

1134613471349135113522507

Comments

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    Fincher was attached to World War Z 2, the sequel to the Brad Pitt film. What is it’s status?
  • Posts: 684
    bondjames wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Let's hope that we never again have to suffer through something like QOS where they burned through locations without ever feeling like you were in any of them.
    Disgraceful, especially when one considers the budget they burned through. I'm not sure which was worse, that or the CGI enhanced rubbish they foisted upon us for most of the locations in SP. Never again indeed.
    Do others feel similarly about QOS? I've always thought it was one of the better post-MR films in terms of infusing a sense of place through the locations (despite the inordinate number of locations Bond traveled to in that one, six or however many it was).
    I felt they wasted locations by zooming through them too fast at the start. It admittedly slowed down later in Haiti & Bolivia (or shall we say Panama, which stood in for both), but that's not saying much. I would have preferred to see and experience more of Lake Garda, Siena & Talamone as an example. Still, despite the haphazard and frantic editing, it's far superior to the way the locations were portrayed and experienced in SP imho.
    So the quantity reduced the quality. I see. I'll agree with that, to an extent. Given that there were so many locations, I do think what Forster shot of them was great and did the job about as good as anything since MR. What helps it along for me is the great photography and the way Forster cuts away (lord knows he did enough of that, at least he put some of it to use) to the people and objects and activities of the people in the locales.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Let's hope that we never again have to suffer through something like QOS where they burned through locations without ever feeling like you were in any of them.
    Disgraceful, especially when one considers the budget they burned through. I'm not sure which was worse, that or the CGI enhanced rubbish they foisted upon us for most of the locations in SP. Never again indeed.
    Do others feel similarly about QOS? I've always thought it was one of the better post-MR films in terms of infusing a sense of place through the locations (despite the inordinate number of locations Bond traveled to in that one, six or however many it was).
    I felt they wasted locations by zooming through them too fast at the start. It admittedly slowed down later in Haiti & Bolivia (or shall we say Panama, which stood in for both), but that's not saying much. I would have preferred to see and experience more of Lake Garda, Siena & Talamone as an example. Still, despite the haphazard and frantic editing, it's far superior to the way the locations were portrayed and experienced in SP imho.
    So the quantity reduced the quality. I see. I'll agree with that, to an extent. Given that there were so many locations, I do think what Forster shot of them was great and did the job about as good as anything since MR. What helps it along for me is the great photography and the way Forster cuts away (lord knows he did enough of that, at least he put some of it to use) to the people and objects and activities of the people in the locales.
    It's not so much the quantity for me as it is the manner in which the locations were portrayed. I agree that there were a lot of them, but then again MR had a lot too.

    I've given some thought to it and I think a lot for me has to do with the pacing too. For example, I mentioned on another thread that I've always felt that Glen's 'relatively' quick (in comparison to say, Gilbert's, Hamilton's or Young's) pacing prevents me from experiencing the locales as well in his films. The same goes for QoS, but even more so.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    jake24 wrote: »
    David Fincher would make a hell of a Bond film, if you ask me. Loved Zodiac, and he has already directed Craig in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
    I would absolutely love to see a Fincher Bond film. Other than Villeneuve, he's another director who would get me seriously excited for B25. All of these other so called "candidates" have been extremely underwhelming.

    Same here. Maybe for the next Bond, as Fincher will be shooting World War Z 2 likely this fall/winter.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 684
    bondjames wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Let's hope that we never again have to suffer through something like QOS where they burned through locations without ever feeling like you were in any of them.
    Disgraceful, especially when one considers the budget they burned through. I'm not sure which was worse, that or the CGI enhanced rubbish they foisted upon us for most of the locations in SP. Never again indeed.
    Do others feel similarly about QOS? I've always thought it was one of the better post-MR films in terms of infusing a sense of place through the locations (despite the inordinate number of locations Bond traveled to in that one, six or however many it was).
    I felt they wasted locations by zooming through them too fast at the start. It admittedly slowed down later in Haiti & Bolivia (or shall we say Panama, which stood in for both), but that's not saying much. I would have preferred to see and experience more of Lake Garda, Siena & Talamone as an example. Still, despite the haphazard and frantic editing, it's far superior to the way the locations were portrayed and experienced in SP imho.
    So the quantity reduced the quality. I see. I'll agree with that, to an extent. Given that there were so many locations, I do think what Forster shot of them was great and did the job about as good as anything since MR. What helps it along for me is the great photography and the way Forster cuts away (lord knows he did enough of that, at least he put some of it to use) to the people and objects and activities of the people in the locales.
    It's not so much the quantity for me as it is the manner in which the locations were portrayed. I agree that there were a lot of them, but then again MR had a lot too.

    I've given some thought to it and I think a lot for me has to do with the pacing too. For example, I mentioned on another thread that I've always felt that Glen's 'relatively' quick (in comparison to say, Gilbert's, Hamilton's or Young's) pacing prevents me from experiencing the locales as well in his films. The same goes for QoS, but even more so.
    MR had the benefit of a 2 hour run time, as well. I quite like QOS and what Forster was going for but it could definitely use more time. Another 10 minutes would probably make a world of difference.

    Just to bring this back around to Bond 25: again, I like what Forster went for with QOS. Ultimately it fell short of the mark, but I sort of wish they had picked up where he left off for what became SF (although I do like SF as well). Though QOS was in parts derivative of what Bourne was doing, I think it was also in parts very classically Bond. I think there's an interesting marriage of styles there that they might have stumbled into if they had logically taken QOS to its full conclusion in the 'missing' Craig film. And I think, had they accomplished this, they might've been ahead of the curve for a first time in a long while. However much I like SF, its influences from TDK are well-observed.

    Anyway, I wouldn't mind if they got there now, with his last. And based on the rumored directors, it does indeed look like they might be attempting to evoke something of the spirit of CR and QOS. So we might get there.

    EDIT: This sounds very vague to me, reading back what I'm trying to say. I might not be doing a great job of conveying what I'm talking about.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Strog wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Let's hope that we never again have to suffer through something like QOS where they burned through locations without ever feeling like you were in any of them.
    Disgraceful, especially when one considers the budget they burned through. I'm not sure which was worse, that or the CGI enhanced rubbish they foisted upon us for most of the locations in SP. Never again indeed.
    Do others feel similarly about QOS? I've always thought it was one of the better post-MR films in terms of infusing a sense of place through the locations (despite the inordinate number of locations Bond traveled to in that one, six or however many it was).
    I felt they wasted locations by zooming through them too fast at the start. It admittedly slowed down later in Haiti & Bolivia (or shall we say Panama, which stood in for both), but that's not saying much. I would have preferred to see and experience more of Lake Garda, Siena & Talamone as an example. Still, despite the haphazard and frantic editing, it's far superior to the way the locations were portrayed and experienced in SP imho.
    So the quantity reduced the quality. I see. I'll agree with that, to an extent. Given that there were so many locations, I do think what Forster shot of them was great and did the job about as good as anything since MR. What helps it along for me is the great photography and the way Forster cuts away (lord knows he did enough of that, at least he put some of it to use) to the people and objects and activities of the people in the locales.
    It's not so much the quantity for me as it is the manner in which the locations were portrayed. I agree that there were a lot of them, but then again MR had a lot too.

    I've given some thought to it and I think a lot for me has to do with the pacing too. For example, I mentioned on another thread that I've always felt that Glen's 'relatively' quick (in comparison to say, Gilbert's, Hamilton's or Young's) pacing prevents me from experiencing the locales as well in his films. The same goes for QoS, but even more so.
    MR had the benefit of a 2 hour run time, as well. I quite like QOS and what Forster was going for but it could definitely use more time. Another 10 minutes would probably make a world of difference.

    Just to bring this back around to Bond 25: again, I like what Forster went for with QOS. Ultimately it fell short of the mark, but I sort of wish they had picked up where he left off for what became SF (although I do like SF as well). Though QOS was in parts derivative of what Bourne was doing, I think it was also in parts very classically Bond. I think there's an interesting marriage of styles there that they might have stumbled into if they had logically taken QOS to its full conclusion in the 'missing' Craig film. And I think, had they accomplished this, they might've been ahead of the curve for a first time in a long while. However much I like SF, its influences from TDK are well-observed.

    Anyway, I wouldn't mind if they got there now, with his last. And based on the rumored directors, it does indeed look like they might be attempting to evoke something of the spirit of CR and QOS. So we might get there.

    EDIT: This sounds very vague to me, reading back what I'm trying to say. I might not be doing a great job of conveying what I'm talking about.
    I think I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree.

    I have a feeling EON don't intend to give us anything close to QoS (which I completely agree was terribly derivative in an overt way of Bourne as I've mentioned on other threads, but also evoked classic Bond as you noted). For one thing, Craig is much older and less intense of an actor now, so I can't see anything as action packed and dialogue light.

    If anything, I have a feeling that SF is what they are going to try to emulate. When I say that I don't mean that they are going to give us TDK 2 or SF 2. What I mean is that I think they will try to recapture those aspects which worked so well in that film. SF sort of played with the audience expectations of what a Bond film could be, by jettisoning some of the traditional narrative structure while also inserting some of the tropes that had been missing. Significantly, it had an emotional hook which resonated with the audience and powerful 'one on one' character exchanges (nearly every moment is impactful). None of that existed in the disappointing and by the numbers SP. So I expect they will try to give us something different and fresh from the standard formula for B25 while also ensuring thematic heft. After all Craig is still Bond.

    Which recent films will they draw inspiration from? That I can't say. We know that Logan has been considered, but since then the globally popular films have had a much lighter tone and that's where I think they are going to have a problem, because that doesn't suit Craig imho. Perhaps that is why Hodge is reportedly in, and with any luck it means more dramatic changes are in store.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 2,115
    RC7 wrote: »
    //I agree with you, it’s not particularly by design although waiting for Mendes certainly was //

    Once again, there was no way SPECTRE would have come out in 2014 regardless whether Mendes came back to direct or not.

    A Sony executive named Rory Bruer told theater executives in 2012 that Bond 24 would be out in 2014. Barbara Broccoli and Daniel Craig, speaking in a joint interview, said Bruer didnt know what he was talking about. They were asked about Bruer's remarks. Here's what they said:

    //Broccoli: He was getting a little overexcited (laughs). We’re just actually focusing on this movie. One hopes that in the future we’ll be announcing other films, but no one’s officially announced it.

    Craig: No one’s announced anything. He got a little ahead of himself (laughs). It’s very nice that he has the confidence to be able to do that, but we haven’t finished this movie yet.//

    http://collider.com/daniel-craig-barbara-broccoli-skyfall-interview/#more-162975

    Also, Barbara Broccoli in an interview with the Los Angeles Times in 2012.

    "“Sometimes there are external pressures from a studio who want you to make it in a certain time frame or for their own benefit, and sometimes we’ve given into that,”

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/14/entertainment/la-et-mn-skyfall-next-james-bond-movie-20121113

    Remember, Sony wanted Quantum of Solace out *in less than two years* time compared with Casino Royale -- May 2, 2008

    https://www.sony.com/en_us/SCA/company-news/press-releases/columbia-pictures/2006/columbia-pictures-and-mgm-announce-may-2-2008-rele.html

    It got pushed back to fall 2008, as things turned out (ironically giving the date to Iron Man, the beginning of the Marvel produced films).

    After Quantum of Solace, there was *no way* Barbara Broccoli was going to rush production for a studio. She drew a line the sand and kept to it. It didn't matter whether Sam Mendes directed SPECTRE or not.

    I’m not quite sure what your point is. Mine was that waiting for Mendes was out of choice, not happenstance. The timescale is irrelevant.

    Some fans think Bond 24 would have come out in 2014 had Eon not waited on Mendes. (This notion has been expressed more than once in this long thread.) My point is Bond 24 would have come out in 2015 regardless.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 11,425
    The only two people I have an interest in seeing direct a Bond is Campbell or Nolan. Nolan is uncompromising in his advocacy for analogue over digital. He even had cardboard cutout soldiers in the background of Dunkirk, because CGI wouldn't do. I think if Nolan made a Bond film, even the Title Sequence would be done practically like in the old days. He is a true fan of the franchise, and a filmmaker of old who has an appreciation for craft and tradition. He is the perfect fit for such a franchise, who won't make a CGI fest and shoot on digital in front of a green screen. I don'√ care even if the effect is seamless, you can still tell when a shot is not real, even if you can't see the seams. I would like one more era of classic Bond where things are done for real, and Chris Nolan is like the self appointed pope of traditional analogue filmmaking. A trilogy of movies by him would be epic, and in many ways mirror how the franchise started by having a strong sense of direction.

    I agree. I wasn’t aware that Nolan was so against CGI though. I seem to remember a number of obviously CGI shots in Dunkirk. However I would absolutely welcome a return to traditional special effects and model work - I think the last 2 Star Wars films have done this to a certain extent after the visual disasters that were the prequels.

    Obviously SW still uses CGI but the return of studio sets, models, real location work and large scale props has given those films back some of the visual impact and flavour of the original trilogy.

    I totally agree with you that you can still usually tell when something is not real with CGI. I’m not entirely sure they are ever going to fix that issue either. There is no substitute for filming actual sets, locations/objects/landscapes/cityscapes and people if you want things to look real.

    The lack of real location shooting in several of the recent Bonds has been a massive disappointment for me. Everything looks a little too slick/manicured. The Connery, Moore and Dalton films all had location work from real cities that looked authentic and gave you that flavour of an actual place. Can’t really think the last time we had that.

    QOS whizzed around the world without giving us a real sense of anywhere. We got tantalising glimpses of Sienna but then a CGI rooftop chase. SF took a real crazy abandoned mining island as the inspiration for Silva’s island but couldn’t even manage some establishing location shots of the real thing. The ‘Scottish Highlands’ were actually an army training range in the south of England. SP took us to Rome without a single shot of Bond walking across the piazza Navona or dining out in Trastevere. The SP meeting externals were of Blenheim palace in Oxfordshire. Algiers was pure CGI.

    Have to say the only recent decent use of location was Venice in CR with its nice little homage to ‘Dont look now!’

    I’d like to see a good half hour sequence in the next film with Bond on location, doing some digging around, eating out and seducing all within the context of a real and recognisable location/city where we see Bond walking a real street.
  • Posts: 832
    They filmed in algiers, not pure cg
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
    Posts: 2,541
    http://deadline.com/2018/03/danny-boyle-richard-curtis-team-on-music-themed-comedy-for-universal-working-title-1202306751/

    Boyle is currently balancing this project with the James Bond script he is working on with John Hodge
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    Time for this yet ? :)

    panic-button-mobile.jpg
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 9,847
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997 and it was still out by Christmas like I said I am holding that in a year and a half we will get the fifth Daniel Craig bond film.

    I would also like to say regardless of who is rumored to direct we should not assume that plot elements of spectre will be dropped like hot potatoes. Going with the last rumored director I doubt that any of us know Boyle personally nor do we know his views on spectre for all any of us know he could love the brother angle between Bond and Blofield and want to push that further in Bond 25 or he could hate it and want to bury it we know nothing and it is stupid to assume that (insert new rumored director here) is going to view the previous bond films the way we do.

    If (and sorry but I still see no definitive evidence but I have been wrong in the past) Boyle is going to direct Bond 25 the only things we can assume are

    The budget will be smaller and tighter (as that is what he said was a sticking point in 2013)
    The action will be smaller scale and there will be an emphasis on character (again based on his comments)


    And that is it. Which technically means both an updated version of Moonraker (the book though after three films can be producers mine another one please) Is just as valid in theory as a film that picks up where the last one left off and use You Only Live Twice ( the novel) as the main source of the plot

    Like I said it’s March.....

    A quick story in 2008 Jon Anderson of Yes got sick and could not tour with Yes with the summer tour cancled and rumors of a new singer the fan forums were in high overdrive bassist Chris Squire (May he Rest In Peace) jumped into the fray and wrote essentially this (I am paraphrasing)

    “Enjoy the now. Don’t speculate about the future don’t bring up the past go outside and enjoy the day now when news comes it will come just relax and enjoy the now”
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    ggl007 wrote: »
    http://deadline.com/2018/03/danny-boyle-richard-curtis-team-on-music-themed-comedy-for-universal-working-title-1202306751/

    Boyle is currently balancing this project with the James Bond script he is working on with John Hodge
    I think we're 50:50 on a release date move at present (not only due to this new script, but also because of The Rhythm Section screw up), and I'm ok with that because the calendar is full in Nov 2019.
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.
  • Posts: 1,165
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2018 Posts: 23,883
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!
    They were apparently quite tired after giving us the gem that was SP, and needed a break. I can only hope that they are so well rested and energized now that they can execute a quick turnaround and meet the release date!!

    At least that is what Craig alluded to in his now famous announcement return (We're all raring to go or something along those lines - I'm paraphrasing).
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!

    It’s your assumption they have no script.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    I still don’t see how delays on TRS could delay Bond. I would think the whole director search/script writing situation would delay Bond instead.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I still don’t see how delays on TRS could delay Bond. I would think the whole director search/script writing situation would delay Bond instead.
    It is just an assumption on my part, because they have a six month delay on that film on account of some actresses hand. Different studio though so perhaps they can do both together.
  • Posts: 1,165
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!

    It’s your assumption they have no script.

    Of course it is. An assumption pieced together from recent news stories, interviews with Babs and their previous experiences of flying by the seat of their pants.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    TR007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!

    It’s your assumption they have no script.

    Of course it is. An assumption pieced together from recent news stories, interviews with Babs and their previous experiences of flying by the seat of their pants.

    They have a drafts. Whether they are going to run with one is debatable, but the idea they have ‘no script’ simply isn’t true.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!

    It’s your assumption they have no script.

    Of course it is. An assumption pieced together from recent news stories, interviews with Babs and their previous experiences of flying by the seat of their pants.

    They have a drafts. Whether they are going to run with one is debatable, but the idea they have ‘no script’ simply isn’t true.
    I don't know what in-house writers exactly do, @RC7, but with the work they undertake, do they set up some of the groundwork, dialogues and other sorts of tropes that are later integrated into the script penned by the officially hired writer?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!

    It’s your assumption they have no script.

    Of course it is. An assumption pieced together from recent news stories, interviews with Babs and their previous experiences of flying by the seat of their pants.

    They have a drafts. Whether they are going to run with one is debatable, but the idea they have ‘no script’ simply isn’t true.
    I don't know what in-house writers exactly do, @RC7, but with the work they undertake, do they set up some of the groundwork, dialogues and other sorts of tropes that are later integrated into the script penned by the officially hired writer?

    They tend to kick around treatments, parts of which may or may not be adapted or used as a jumping off point.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited March 2018 Posts: 15,423
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!

    It’s your assumption they have no script.

    Of course it is. An assumption pieced together from recent news stories, interviews with Babs and their previous experiences of flying by the seat of their pants.

    They have a drafts. Whether they are going to run with one is debatable, but the idea they have ‘no script’ simply isn’t true.
    I don't know what in-house writers exactly do, @RC7, but with the work they undertake, do they set up some of the groundwork, dialogues and other sorts of tropes that are later integrated into the script penned by the officially hired writer?
    They tend to kick around treatments, parts of which may or may not be adapted or used as a jumping off point.
    Oh, like the Day of the Dead, then... Since Michael G. Wilson did mention that element as a starting point.
  • re: "no script."

    As I read the posts, I think this is intended as "no selected script." Purvis & Wade no doubt came up with a script -- they certainly had time to do a first draft, if not more. But, if Deadline's report from last month is correct, Eon hasn't elected to go with it (at least not yet) and is waiting on Hodge to finish writing a draft.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    Right so they’ve spent all this time developing different story lines, honing to start a draft or two or three of a script.... that could all be significantly altered or thrown out based on the director they hire. Kind of makes you wish the director was locked down a long time ago.

    I don’t think B25 is going to mirror any of the last 4. They’re all kind of unique, for better and worse and B25 will follow that. I do want them to stick with a theme or tone. I don’t want a hodgepodge. So it should be interesting what theme they take because I don’t think they’ve settled on that, even at this late date because the director will be the driver and their rumored choices are all over the place.
  • Posts: 1,165
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Again assuming all this is true I still see no reason to panic Tomorrow Never dies didn’t start filming till what may 1997...
    That's hardly worthy of inspiring confidence, given what a mess that film was.

    TND turned out great considering the fast turnover. My problem with B25 working so fast is that there's really no need for them to have to get to that stage. They've had 3 years so far to work on this movie. It beggars belief that they're nowhere closer to a script of any kind now than they were in November 2015!

    It’s your assumption they have no script.

    Of course it is. An assumption pieced together from recent news stories, interviews with Babs and their previous experiences of flying by the seat of their pants.

    They have a drafts. Whether they are going to run with one is debatable, but the idea they have ‘no script’ simply isn’t true.

    No it's not. They don't have a script that's ready for production and likely won't until they have a director in place.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Risico007 wrote: »
    “Enjoy the now. Don’t speculate about the future don’t bring up the past go outside and enjoy the day now when news comes it will come just relax and enjoy the now”

    Sound advice.

    I'm revelling in this 4 year hiatus after the terribly disappointing last entry, with little confidence that they have the faintest idea how to dig themselves out of the narrative grave they have dug and zero information coming out of EON HQ except about side projects none of us care about.

    The 'now' really is a great time to be a Bond fan and no mistake.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    For all we know, all of this drama is bollocks and EON has a script, and finalizing a director.
  • Posts: 4,619
    For all we know, all of this drama is bollocks and EON has a script, and finalizing a director.
    There is no drama. John Hodge is writing the screenplay as we speak, and Boyle will direct the movie next winter.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 5,767
    Risico007 wrote: »
    “Enjoy the now. Don’t speculate about the future don’t bring up the past go outside and enjoy the day now when news comes it will come just relax and enjoy the now”

    Sound advice.

    I'm revelling in this 4 year hiatus after the terribly disappointing last entry, with little confidence that they have the faintest idea how to dig themselves out of the narrative grave they have dug and zero information coming out of EON HQ except about side projects none of us care about.

    The 'now' really is a great time to be a Bond fan and no mistake.
    Forgiveness is at any given time and stage possible, if one regrets his mistakes deeply enough and resolves not to repeat them. It doesn´t matter how much one deviated from the righteous path, what matters is that one returns to the universal ballance of the force.

    After all, isn´t James Bond´s hobby resurrection?
Sign In or Register to comment.