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Or change the actor and start afresh.
Corresponding points they made about SP;
- The movie went on too long.
- They had expected more from Waltz / Blofeld.
To a lesser extend but mentioned;
- Weak plot
- Empty streets during the car chase in Rome
- Failing to really showcase the biggest explosion in movie history
None of them ever brought up the Brofeld-nightmare though.
I also noticed a divide between some missing the more realistic / serious approach from CR and QOS, and others being happy with the return of bit more humour.
(Sorry for going a bit off topic.)
Everyone is different.
Quite true.
Sure. That's why everybody praises his versatility. Hence his nickname "the man with only one facial expression".
There are several reasons that he didn’t look his best : they will be addressed. The next time he makes an appearance he will look noticeably better.
Like I say, I don’t see the ‘prevailing mood’ amongst anyone other than a subsection of Bond fans. Perhaps it’s the case where you are, but that is not the sense I am getting in the UK.
Either way, it’s not of pressing interest to me. I’m just excited to see what happens next, whenever and with whomever is involved.
I see. That's why he interpreted him as a joyless sociopath in SF. I wonder what he would do with a character he likes.
You think there's as much excitement and anticipation around the next film as there was for the previous four? I don't see it myself.
Every time a friend of mine asks when the next Bond film is out they do express a disappointment that they'll have to wait until Oct/Nov 2019 to see it. And they are 'normal' casual movie watchers not Bond fans. The disappointment is often followed by a comment on how much they've liked the Craig films.
Are you ever not annoyed? We all see our arse now and again, but you must know every contour of your anus in fine detail.
That depends on what they put together (cast, crew, locations etc) and how they promote it. The feeling wasn’t dissimilar pre-SF, after the lacklustre QoS. I’m not saying there is anticipation, as there’s nothing to anticipate, but neither do I see a majority of people actively wanting change.
No, among average movie goers. They were bored as hell with Spectre.
Ok. Thanks.
Spectre did very good box office just about everywhere except the US where it did ok. How do we know that they were bored or hated it? Only a very small percentage will comment online.
Do you think resorting to vulgarity instead of arguments gives you any bonus points?
Of course you would need to have some arguments. In your case I don't even see the possibility.
Don’t bother, mate. It’s like conversing with Krang.
The tenure felt like is still had steam left in the pre-SF days, and you don't need people actively demanding change for there to be a deep hunger for it. If people are protesting Craig's continued involvement, then things have already gone on for too long. You're supposed to preempt a backlash while it is still gestating, not close the gate after the horse has bolted. And four years is a long time in movie terms.
But when the films are creative disappointments, it'll add up and those once big numbers start to dwindle. Just look at WB and their DCEU. Justice League couldn't crack $700M world wide. No property is completely safe. Protect the brand and make good shit.
Spectre was arguably only a 'creative' disappointment in the US.
Of course the potential for a backlash is there, just as there is if a re-casting backfires. I’ve always been open to either. Right now they’re going with Craig and as Bond is my hobby rather than some sado masochistic indulgence, I’m going to roll with it rather than endlessly beat myself up about it.
Like I said, I'm sure the film will make money, but the enthusiasm is not there where I am. Fairweather fans ask me as a diehard who the next Bond is going to be even now, but only because they know I'm waiting for a new film. SP was unanimously seen as meh and a finale, since it coincided with wrist slash and his reported dejection with the character.
They don't really give a stuff about a bunch of Bond nerds,they have become a lot more money oriented at the risk of storylines and creativity than they used to be.
A sign of a company coming to the end with its product.
However, there's no doubt in my mind that they will have missed a great opportunity right now if they don't change it up, and the next films will pay for it. This is sort of what happened when Moore stayed on too long, which impacted Dalton (who in turn had to contend with Brozza in the wings). These people just don't seem to think strategically, as evidenced by the product variations.
It's not just the die hards. We just more vociferously vocalize a prevailing mood. That is normally how it goes.
You've got it.
If they are making money more and more they may be tempted to carry on. It’ll help them finance these side projects that they seem to enjoy more
Like @RC7 (who, it should be added, is bringing a welcome dose of reality to these discussions, and also is responsible for me spitting coffee out of my nostrils this morning with some terrific descriptions of seeing one’s own ass), I too have not seen or heard of this desire for change— other than on this forum.
And @talos you’re correct on appearances of the incumbent. You know your way around a gym and what transformations will happen, especially when working with the best trainers and nutritionists in the industry.
I expect he's in the gym now prepping so he can do the rounds in a presentable fashion for the Kings rollout.
Even if he now goes for eight months into the heaviest of workouts and trainings there's still no way to guarantee that he will really look good after that. I for myself, can't believe it from the way he looks on recent pictures. I'm not even talking about his body, but his face has had it.
I agree that it means going out of one's way, but this seems to be the path they have chosen for better or worse, so let's hope for the best and not an AVTAK embarrassment.