No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 7,405
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    Too bad Sophie Marceau already starred in a Bond Film - she would suit Daniel very well on-screen I am sure, looks stunning and mature enough. Plus she‘s a fine actress, I think (but that may be my lifelong crush for her speaking here :-) ). Paired alongside a return of Camille and some little flirts here and there (like the receptionist in TB and so on) would be just great.

    +1. She was way too good for the Brossa era!
    She would have made a good Vesper Lynd (though I adore Eva Green!) And is the best thing about TWINE.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Getafix wrote: »
    There's definitely truth in the fact that the best films were probably made by the hack directors back in the day. Who would the equivalent be now? May be some of the directors coming out of the currently excellent world of TV would be better suited.

    Who is the guy who directs all these trashy yet highly entertaining Liam Neason movies? Would be interesting to see him turn his hand to Bond.

    There are so many different routes they could go down that would be lots of fun. Peter Hunt's OHMSS still stands out for being one of most off beat, different Bond films. Why not have a Bond that is much more of a pacy thriller directed by someone who makes those films for a living? Forster sort of tried to do that with QOS I suppose. I like that film but know it also could have been a whole lot better.

    But let's not forget: "back in the day" they had all of Fleming's original material to work from. There's a reason that CR was so damn good: they had source material to work with and build on to.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    TripAces wrote: »
    In short, bad Bond films are the result of bad scripts more than bad directors.

    And yet...Tamahori.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    echo wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    In short, bad Bond films are the result of bad scripts more than bad directors.

    And yet...Tamahori.

    I can't defend Tamahori, but I'm not sure even Spielberg could have saved DAD.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 12,462
    Nothing could have saved poor DAD. Just too much wrong. Brosnan should have left after TWINE, even though I like him a lot.
  • edited March 2018 Posts: 3,333
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    What are the chances Boyle makes an True adaptation of YOLT?
    So you think there's a possibility that Boyle's "great idea" was to simply go to Eon and say "Let's adapt the YOLT book again, but follow the book more closely this time?" I'm not saying that you're wrong but it doesn't particular strike me as an original concept and one that Boyle and Hodge would have had second doubts about when taking their idea to the producers. It almost seems a natural progression if one was sticking closely to the Fleming template. For all we know, the P&W script for B25 might already closely resemble the original YOLT novel. My guess is that Boyle has come up with something a bit more left-field than that. Something that's pertained within the Fleming's novels but has yet to be touched upon in any great detail. The obvious answer might already be staring us in the face. As to what that is, I have no idea. You mention the unused YOLT, but why not the unused elements in DAF, or even something akin to the original unused TSWLM novel? Perhaps Boyle's idea is to create another Francisco Scaramanga, or even actually use Scaramanga by name. Especially now that Blofeld has found his way back into the new timeline, I'm guessing some of the other older characters are no longer so sacrosanct as they were before. I'm not shooting down your suggestion as I have no idea what Boyle's idea is. I'm just offering up some alternatives. The clue might even be in the "cinematic gold" comment. He could even be resurrecting Goldfinger himself!!

    But to answer the question you pose, I think it seems unlikely.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Nothing could have saved poor DAD. Just too much wrong. Brosnan should have left after TWINE, even though I like him a lot.

    Sadly, had Brosnan left after TWINE, Craig as Bond would never have happened. Brosnan doing a 4th film is major piece of the puzzle for Craig to be cast for CR.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Perhaps Boyle's idea is to create another Francisco Scaramanga, or even actually use Scaramanga by name. Especially now that Blofeld has found his way into the new timeline, I'm guessing some of the other older characters are no longer so sacrosanct as they were before.
    Oh dear, I certainly hope not. With any luck the honchos at EON in their infinite wisdom 8-| don't attempt to incorporate any more characters which were previously used so memorably in the past. If they do, I'd sincerely hope that they have the brains to change their names. I'd strongly prefer if they leave the classic characters alone.

    I agree with you that a YOLT adaptation is very unlikely to be Boyle's idea, and neither is 'old man' Bond imho.
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Nothing could have saved poor DAD. Just too much wrong. Brosnan should have left after TWINE, even though I like him a lot.

    Sadly, had Brosnan left after TWINE, Craig as Bond would never have happened. Brosnan doing a 4th film is major piece of the puzzle for Craig to be cast for CR.
    I have a lot of problems with the Brosnan era, but overstaying its welcome is definitely not one of them. I think it ended when it should have.
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    There's definitely truth in the fact that the best films were probably made by the hack directors back in the day. Who would the equivalent be now? May be some of the directors coming out of the currently excellent world of TV would be better suited.

    Who is the guy who directs all these trashy yet highly entertaining Liam Neason movies? Would be interesting to see him turn his hand to Bond.

    There are so many different routes they could go down that would be lots of fun. Peter Hunt's OHMSS still stands out for being one of most off beat, different Bond films. Why not have a Bond that is much more of a pacy thriller directed by someone who makes those films for a living? Forster sort of tried to do that with QOS I suppose. I like that film but know it also could have been a whole lot better.

    But let's not forget: "back in the day" they had all of Fleming's original material to work from. There's a reason that CR was so damn good: they had source material to work with and build on to.

    But they stopped making faithful adaptations before they ran out of books.
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    Having said all that, I don't think they'll be following Fleming too closely as 00 agents face mandatory retirement at 45, which would make Craig pretty much redundant in his own movie. However, B25 could involve the lesser seen division of the 00 Branch, which we haven't really gotten a good view of yet @bondjames. I honestly don't think for one minute Boyle wants to resurrect any more older characters from Fleming's novels, unless it's Loelia Ponsonby!! I'm kidding, of course.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    All the Fleming books and stories are available to be filmed in the style that Casino Royale did so well updating Bond to the 21st Century.

    All of them.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Getafix wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    There's definitely truth in the fact that the best films were probably made by the hack directors back in the day. Who would the equivalent be now? May be some of the directors coming out of the currently excellent world of TV would be better suited.

    Who is the guy who directs all these trashy yet highly entertaining Liam Neason movies? Would be interesting to see him turn his hand to Bond.

    There are so many different routes they could go down that would be lots of fun. Peter Hunt's OHMSS still stands out for being one of most off beat, different Bond films. Why not have a Bond that is much more of a pacy thriller directed by someone who makes those films for a living? Forster sort of tried to do that with QOS I suppose. I like that film but know it also could have been a whole lot better.

    But let's not forget: "back in the day" they had all of Fleming's original material to work from. There's a reason that CR was so damn good: they had source material to work with and build on to.

    But they stopped making faithful adaptations before they ran out of books.

    In the words of Dreyfus: "True." I suppose it depends on how far back "Back in the day" means.
    All the Fleming books and stories are available to be filmed in the style that Casino Royale did so well updating Bond to the 21st Century.

    All of them.

    Also true.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    edited March 2018 Posts: 2,537
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    Daniel visited the NSA - National Cryptologic Museum this week.

    Could he be doing some research?

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    Its possible to look too much into these these things but reference to "an idea" to me is a clue of something pretty different from the standard formula. More than tweeking with the familiar, something that stands out. How many of the previous Bonds can be described as "an idea" rather than just a re-run of the formula? This makes it more interesting IMHO.
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Nothing could have saved poor DAD. Just too much wrong. Brosnan should have left after TWINE, even though I like him a lot.

    Sadly, had Brosnan left after TWINE, Craig as Bond would never have happened. Brosnan doing a 4th film is major piece of the puzzle for Craig to be cast for CR.

    Which resulted in the two most stylistically different movies to run chronologically in the whole series, in my opinion. Bond 25 won't feel so much like a breath of fresh air as CR did, but it does sound like they've got an intriguing idea for a storyline.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
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    Daniel visited the NSA - National Cryptologic Museum this week.

    Could he be doing some research?

    Oh dear, looks like it wasn't just a case of bad lighting at the BAFTA's. Hope he starts getting in shape soon.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited March 2018 Posts: 6,277
    bondsum wrote: »
    For all we know, the P&W script for B25 might already closely resemble the original YOLT novel. My guess is that Boyle has come up with something a bit more left-field than that. Something that's pertained within the Fleming's novels but has yet to be touched upon in any great detail. The obvious answer might already be staring us in the face. As to what that is, I have no idea. You mention the unused YOLT, but why not the unused elements in DAF, or even something akin to the original unused TSWLM novel? Perhaps Boyle's idea is to create another Francisco Scaramanga, or even actually use Scaramanga by name. Especially now that Blofeld has found his way back into the new timeline, I'm guessing some of the other older characters are no longer so sacrosanct as they were before. I'm not shooting down your suggestion as I have no idea what Boyle's idea is. I'm just offering up some alternatives. The clue might even be in the "cinematic gold" comment. He could even be resurrecting Goldfinger himself!!

    But to answer the question you pose, I think it seems unlikely.

    I agree. I'll bet that P&W were trying to adapt the YOLT novel, at least until Waltz pulled out (or did he?). And Swann dying/Bond getting revenge on Blofeld is hardly original in the franchise, as OHMSS, LTK, CR, and QoS have all tread that path. (I'm not counting on close adaptations of YOLT/TMWTGG until the next Bond actor, if ever.)

    To my mind, "cinematic gold" is an outside-the-box idea like: M dies. In other words, something that departs from the formula. I really doubt that Boyle signed up for a by-the-numbers Bond like GE or TND.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    He looks fine to me in that pic; better than he did at the BAFTAS bta it's a side profile. At least his hair is better.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I agree that he does look better but strongly disagree about the hair; yes it is a well done cut that would look great on some others but Daniel can’t wear something that slick; it’s not complementary.
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    He’s approaching Rog ageing in AVTAK. Not that I’m that bothered personally. Rog got better as time went by.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    edited March 2018 Posts: 732
    I highly doubt they will revisit any of the memorable villains - especially not Goldfinger.

    But I agree that there are many elements and characters of the Books that have not yet gotten their screen version.

    P&W most likely did an adaption of YOLT ... since that would be the logical conclusion to catch up after SP. And I think it could have become a good film but EON also realized the audience is fed up with the drama Bonds and so turned to this „cinematic gold“ idea Boyle and Hodge came up with. If it‘s more energetic and Craig can bring back some of his trademarks I think we won‘t be let down again.

    About Craig‘s looks: He may be bulking up actually ... and then shred off the fat that always comes with a „bulking diet“. Just thinking ... the true indicator will be pictures of him around September during rehearsals ...
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    What's with the desert marine haircut?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited March 2018 Posts: 8,196
    Double post
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    Whatever the idea is, Boyle didn't think Eon would go for it. Could just be for the same reason Boyle always said he wouldn't do Bond, i.e. the budget. Maybe he thought the idea was too small.
    All the Fleming books and stories are available to be filmed in the style that Casino Royale did so well updating Bond to the 21st Century.

    All of them.
    I kind of remember after CR there was speculation that the next would be a straight LALD adaptation under a different title.
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    These are my top 5 choices for bond's leading lady for bond 25:
    1. Scarlett Johansson
    2. Christina Hendricks
    3. Catherine Zeta-jones
    4. Salma Hayek
    5. Kate Winslet


    Catherine Zeta-Jones was the most beautiful bond girl that never was. But sadly those times are over. Call me stubborn but I would really lobby for a reasonable young and attractive woman in that role. You know, trust for traditions sake.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    There are more shots of him at the Museum on Facebook. Here's one:

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    There are more shots of him at the Museum on Facebook. Here's one:

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    Maybe it was just really warm in that room?
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    29249919_1833307276736463_7731245066160701440_n.jpg?oh=18f455d1ca253e1754beb63f5f7faf42&oe=5B309DB3

    Daniel visited the NSA - National Cryptologic Museum this week.

    Could he be doing some research?

    Oh dear, looks like it wasn't just a case of bad lighting at the BAFTA's. Hope he starts getting in shape soon.

    I really don't know, what he could do about it. He doesn't look overweight on those pictures just old.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2018 Posts: 23,883
    These are my top 5 choices for bond's leading lady for bond 25:
    1. Scarlett Johansson
    2. Christina Hendricks
    3. Catherine Zeta-jones
    4. Salma Hayek
    5. Kate Winslet


    Catherine Zeta-Jones was the most beautiful bond girl that never was. But sadly those times are over. Call me stubborn but I would really lobby for a reasonable young and attractive woman in that role. You know, trust for traditions sake.
    I hear you, but it won't work credibly with the current fellow. They will have to skew older to accommodate him, or else it will look uncomfortable.
  • Goldeneye0094Goldeneye0094 Conyers, GA
    Posts: 464
    These are my top 5 choices for bond's leading lady for bond 25:
    1. Scarlett Johansson
    2. Christina Hendricks
    3. Catherine Zeta-jones
    4. Salma Hayek
    5. Kate Winslet


    Catherine Zeta-Jones was the most beautiful bond girl that never was. But sadly those times are over. Call me stubborn but I would really lobby for a reasonable young and attractive woman in that role. You know, trust for traditions sake.

    I agree catherine should have been cast in the 90s or 2000s but she still looks great and it's never too late take monica bellucci for example but scarlett johansson is still number one for me she is still young but not so young she can be craig's daughter and the two can have terrific chemistry.
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