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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Mabey it will be MGM/Sony movie again without Fox like Casino Royale.

    http://www.darkhorizons.com/bond-future-unclear-due-to-mgm-sale/
    It looks like the James Bond franchise could be used as bait in a potential studio sale reports THR. The sudden departure of MGM CEO Gary Barber a few weeks ago has led to talk of MGM going on the block and its most valuable property, the Bond franchise, set to be a major selling point of any potential deal.

    At last report, it seemed Annapurna had scored the domestic rights to the franchise, but that’s not the case and in fact both domestic and global rights have not yet been decided on. The delay over the decision to not only find a new home for 007 but also to select a new CEO has led to all the potential sell-off talk.

    The MGM library generates about $300 million a year in revenue, the Bond franchise is said to be worth between $1-3 billion, and MGM recently purchased Epix which is valued at $1 billion. As a result, a sale price for the studio would be in the $6+ billion range. Sony is said to be interested and has the money for it.

    Whatever the case, with production on the next Bond film due to start around year’s end under the helm of Danny Boyle, MGM will have to make a big decision soon about its future..

    That mean Sony released the movie in the cinema and on DVD and Bluray. Sony classical will do the soundtrack. Whyle Danny Boyle has made a lot of movies for Fox, Trainspotting 1 & 2 are Sony movies.
    I'm not sure it will be Sony given the current environment. I'd say an American buyer is more likely, if a deal is in fact in the works.

    Another thing to keep in mind is a potential deal takes at least 6 months to work through. It's a complicated process from announcement to 'close' and could have implications. So hopefully it's not something that happens too soon.
    Disney better not put it's dirty paws on MGM or Bond. I could see Comcast trying to buy MGM to rival Fox/Disney
    We definitely share similar views on the matter.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2018 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Mabey it will be MGM/Sony movie again without Fox like Casino Royale.

    http://www.darkhorizons.com/bond-future-unclear-due-to-mgm-sale/
    It looks like the James Bond franchise could be used as bait in a potential studio sale reports THR. The sudden departure of MGM CEO Gary Barber a few weeks ago has led to talk of MGM going on the block and its most valuable property, the Bond franchise, set to be a major selling point of any potential deal.

    At last report, it seemed Annapurna had scored the domestic rights to the franchise, but that’s not the case and in fact both domestic and global rights have not yet been decided on. The delay over the decision to not only find a new home for 007 but also to select a new CEO has led to all the potential sell-off talk.

    The MGM library generates about $300 million a year in revenue, the Bond franchise is said to be worth between $1-3 billion, and MGM recently purchased Epix which is valued at $1 billion. As a result, a sale price for the studio would be in the $6+ billion range. Sony is said to be interested and has the money for it.

    Whatever the case, with production on the next Bond film due to start around year’s end under the helm of Danny Boyle, MGM will have to make a big decision soon about its future..

    That mean Sony released the movie in the cinema and on DVD and Bluray. Sony classical will do the soundtrack. Whyle Danny Boyle has made a lot of movies for Fox, Trainspotting 1 & 2 are Sony movies.
    I'm not sure it will be Sony given the current environment. I'd say an American buyer is more likely, if a deal is in fact in the works.

    Another thing to keep in mind is a potential deal takes at least 6 months to work through. It's a complicated process from announcement to 'close' and could have implications. So hopefully it's not something that happens too soon.

    Disney better not put it's paws on MGM.... I could see Comcast trying to buy MGM to rival Fox/Disney
    Yes, I agree that Comcast is a possibility. They are on the hunt and Bond would fit in nicely with Universal.

    I wouldn't worry about Disney. Bond doesn't fit into their portfolio which is more broad and child friendly. Additionally, it could possibly negatively impact their Marvel roster.

    EDIT: Moreover, as Disney showed with Black Panther, they can just whip up a $1bn + hit out of nowhere. Bond is a joke for them.
  • neonmartinineonmartini Classified
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Mabey it will be MGM/Sony movie again without Fox like Casino Royale.

    http://www.darkhorizons.com/bond-future-unclear-due-to-mgm-sale/
    It looks like the James Bond franchise could be used as bait in a potential studio sale reports THR. The sudden departure of MGM CEO Gary Barber a few weeks ago has led to talk of MGM going on the block and its most valuable property, the Bond franchise, set to be a major selling point of any potential deal.

    At last report, it seemed Annapurna had scored the domestic rights to the franchise, but that’s not the case and in fact both domestic and global rights have not yet been decided on. The delay over the decision to not only find a new home for 007 but also to select a new CEO has led to all the potential sell-off talk.

    The MGM library generates about $300 million a year in revenue, the Bond franchise is said to be worth between $1-3 billion, and MGM recently purchased Epix which is valued at $1 billion. As a result, a sale price for the studio would be in the $6+ billion range. Sony is said to be interested and has the money for it.

    Whatever the case, with production on the next Bond film due to start around year’s end under the helm of Danny Boyle, MGM will have to make a big decision soon about its future..

    That mean Sony released the movie in the cinema and on DVD and Bluray. Sony classical will do the soundtrack. Whyle Danny Boyle has made a lot of movies for Fox, Trainspotting 1 & 2 are Sony movies.
    I'm not sure it will be Sony given the current environment. I'd say an American buyer is more likely, if a deal is in fact in the works.

    Another thing to keep in mind is a potential deal takes at least 6 months to work through. It's a complicated process from announcement to 'close' and could have implications. So hopefully it's not something that happens too soon.

    Disney better not put it's paws on MGM.... I could see Comcast trying to buy MGM to rival Fox/Disney
    Yes, I agree that Comcast is a possibility. They are on the hunt and Bond would fit in nicely with Universal.

    I wouldn't worry about Disney. Bond doesn't fit into their portfolio which is more broad and child friendly. Additionally, it could possibly negatively impact their Marvel roster.

    EDIT: Moreover, as Disney showed with Black Panther, they can just whip up a $1bn + hit out of nowhere. Bond is a joke for them.

    MGM and Universal had some history in the past so it'll be a good fit
  • neonmartinineonmartini Classified
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    Or Sony and Comcast merge and MGM is coming with them
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I was actually going to mention Universal, judging by the fact that their Bourne franchise didn't live up to expectations the last time, so they might consider getting their fingers into the 007 pie. But, I do recall sometime ago they backed out of the competition.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    Having seen what happens to Star Wars under the Disney belt I can only hope Disney keeps their hands off 007.
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    Universal would be cautious under most circumstances after Bourne,but we are talking Bond here,a guaranteed profit giant in the world of film,so it wouldnt surprise me if they came in for him.

    They are a safe pair of hands so i would be fine with that.
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    I know, many have decided to sinply ignore him, but as we see, that doesnt make him go away, so telling him where to stick his arrogance and negativity once in a while, cant hurt. Now can it?

    Just for the record, it's all began with me asking what exactly defines those 'heavy investments' he made into the role? Why not just answer my question instead of going into attack mode? Sure, for you that would be a completely new MO, but hey, why not try something new on your old days?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Just whistle past, @Germanlady, whistle past... There are disagreements on these pages, in which I have been involved, but it gets wrapped up and people move on.

    But there's one amongst us who really enjoys poking and poking. He agrees with all contrarian view-points (which is fair enough), but that's his only bag; everything else written just seems to try and provoke. It's eye-rollingly predictable.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    IMHO DC put in a lot. On the physical side with own stunts, acting-wise with a deep(er) interpretation of the character (allowed by the script) and a lot of media bashing upfront of CR. He brought great talent behind and in front of the camera and Bond was not as big a thing since the 60s.

    I hope DC will become a great ambassador for Bond once he leaves the role behind - the best one in that sense was for sure the late Roger Moore.
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    SeanCraig wrote: »
    IMHO DC put in a lot. On the physical side with own stunts, acting-wise with a deep(er) interpretation of the character (allowed by the script) and a lot of media bashing upfront of CR. He brought great talent behind and in front of the camera and Bond was not as big a thing since the 60s.

    I hope DC will become a great ambassador for Bond once he leaves the role behind - the best one in that sense was for sure the late Roger Moore.

    Im not convinced he will but we will see...indeed,Sir Roger did so much for Bond,on and off screen,he really cared for the character and the fans.
    I know this from personal experience with him,hence he is my favourite 007.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    IMHO DC put in a lot. On the physical side with own stunts, acting-wise with a deep(er) interpretation of the character (allowed by the script) and a lot of media bashing upfront of CR. He brought great talent behind and in front of the camera and Bond was not as big a thing since the 60s.

    I hope DC will become a great ambassador for Bond once he leaves the role behind - the best one in that sense was for sure the late Roger Moore.

    Im not convinced he will but we will see...indeed,Sir Roger did so much for Bond,on and off screen,he really cared for the character and the fans.
    I know this from personal experience with him,hence he is my favourite 007.
    Sir Rog was great. I miss him and I took his passing last year quite hard.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    IMHO DC put in a lot. On the physical side with own stunts, acting-wise with a deep(er) interpretation of the character (allowed by the script) and a lot of media bashing upfront of CR. He brought great talent behind and in front of the camera and Bond was not as big a thing since the 60s.

    I hope DC will become a great ambassador for Bond once he leaves the role behind - the best one in that sense was for sure the late Roger Moore.

    Im not convinced he will but we will see...indeed,Sir Roger did so much for Bond,on and off screen,he really cared for the character and the fans.
    I know this from personal experience with him,hence he is my favourite 007.
    Sir Rog was great. I miss him and I took his passing last year quite hard.

    Same here..i still think about him a lot which proves how much he meant to me.
  • edited April 2018 Posts: 2,115
    Lest we forget some years ago Warner Bros bought most of the old MGM library rights for their home video format.

    It was a smidge more complicated.

    1. Turner Broadcasting bought MGM, mostly with borrowed money.

    2. Turner decides it can't handle the debt load. Sells MGM back to Kirk Kerkorian. But Turner keeps the MGM film library (up until point). That library initially was used to launch a new channel, TNT in 1988. Later (1994), it's used to launch TCM (Turner Classic Movies).

    3. Time Warner (Warner Bros. parent) buys Turner.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    Roger Moore was a great advertise for Bond - on and off screen. He treated the legacy of the role the way it deserved for making him a wealthy superstar.

    I wished Connery, my favourite Bond, would‘ve been more like this. I feel sad to read he has not many good things to say about the role - never without some sort of complaint after he may have said something positive in interviews.

    Roger Moore was so much different - and it was and is a delight hearing him talk about the role in interviews.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    sean connery-- rightly or wrongly-- held grudges for a very long time. He seemed like a tough man in real life, but, like you @SeanCraig, I don't like hearing his comments; Bond put him on the map and he comes off as an ungrateful prick.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    Based on interviews with Connery himself and some others I think the producers made a mistake by not giving him a longer rest after TB and not pay him what his importance for the film series was.

    That was a mistake and DAF was his deserved payoff for it. In the 70s he could‘ve put that grudge aside but he aparently did not until late in the 2000s which is when I heard him say something nice about the role.

    Daniel Craig has been somewhere in between this so far - he complained after SP but often said how much he thinks the role is a blessing and a great honor playing it. I hope he will come off B25 and move in a Moore-like spot for it.
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    Connery never even spoke to Cubby,even though Cubby tried numerous times, until Cubby got a phone call from him on his death bed and Connery made amends.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Agreed.

    And I am getting tired of having to endure the same silly bitching without being allowed to answerr to them - straightforward, without drssing it up nicely. See it like this - I sm here for 10 years something, longer then most of you. I am the old Lady sitting in the room full of people. She is old enough to not feel the need anymore to be polite, where there is no reason, to be. She sees them, as they are and adresses them accordingly. Bless old age. So - you two, Bird snd Jake, think about what bitching you allow and which not. Try to be fair maybe, too. This old lady wont change anymore and lucky enough, she is not saying a lot these Days. But silly bitching she will adress and there is no reason to not allow it.
    Bitching is something we want to avoid entirely. I ask that no one derail the thread any further on the matter.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Connery never even spoke to Cubby,even though Cubby tried numerous times, until Cubby got a phone call from him on his death bed and Connery made amends.

    yes definitely feels like Connery knows how to hold a grudge. but we don't know the ins and outs of what happened. sounds like he was not treated with the sensitivity or respect he probably required and deserved. eon don't come out of it that well. they seem to have seen him as their creation and therefore that he owed them everything, failing to appreciate what he'd done for them.

    film bond could very easily have died after daf. they were very lucky with roger
  • edited April 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Getafix wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Connery never even spoke to Cubby,even though Cubby tried numerous times, until Cubby got a phone call from him on his death bed and Connery made amends.

    yes definitely feels like Connery knows how to hold a grudge. but we don't know the ins and outs of what happened. sounds like he was not treated with the sensitivity or respect he probably required and deserved. eon don't come out of it that well. they seem to have seen him as their creation and therefore that he owed them everything, failing to appreciate what he'd done for them.

    film bond could very easily have died after daf. they were very lucky with roger

    Exactly,but there is holding a grudge and then HOLDING A GRUDGE,and im pretty sure it would have been Saltzman more then Cubby who 'let down' Connery,i dont think it was in Cubby's nature,but who knows.

    And yes,if they went with Gavin then that would have been the end of Bond...getting Roger was an inspired choice and,due to his brilliant Saint/Persuaders performances,they had a ready made Bond,bless him.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I also never understood why was Connery's hatred directed at Cubby, a terrific man with humble personality, rather than Saltzman who was an absolute prick to begin with? Also, wasn't it Saltzman who walked on the set of YOLT and Connery stopped acting because of him, demanding that he won't perform until Saltzman gets lost?
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    I also never understood why was Connery's hatred directed at Cubby, a terrific man with humble personality, rather than Saltzman who was an absolute prick to begin with? Also, wasn't it Saltzman who walked on the set of YOLT and Connery stopped acting because of him, demanding that he won't perform until Saltzman gets lost?

    Spot on CD,he would never act at anytime he saw Saltzman,he would just stop and stare at him IIRC.
    Nobody could get him to carry on.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Connery never even spoke to Cubby,even though Cubby tried numerous times, until Cubby got a phone call from him on his death bed and Connery made amends.
    Yeah and that‘s so sad. It‘s on record that Cubby was very much a family man and in the beginning Connery was part of that family. But Cubby and Harry made some business mistakes with a type of man Connery is and imho they never again did that again.

    It‘s (to me) a sad part of the Bond history - right up there with that whole Thunderball soap opera. In some ways it‘s a shame Connery made NSNA with McClory
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @ClarkDevlin , yes, I think it was in the Everything or Nothing doc... I believe Connery warned Saltzman to stay away from him during YOLT. When he didn't heed the notice and came on set, Connery clammed up in the middle of scenes.

    I wouldn't want to screw with Connery.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited April 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Connery had the right to act the way he did, to be honest. I mean, the man was robbed first and foremost, his likeness was used on Bond merchandise and marketing products without his permission, let alone fee profit. I wouldn't blame Connery for being the way he was. But, judging by the facts we know, his treatment of Cubby was unfair. Saltzman basically ruined the series by selling his share to a corporate firm that would never sell back their shares/rights over the property, and we're experiencing the loss of it, today.
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    SeanCraig wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Connery never even spoke to Cubby,even though Cubby tried numerous times, until Cubby got a phone call from him on his death bed and Connery made amends.
    Yeah and that‘s so sad. It‘s on record that Cubby was very much a family man and in the beginning Connery was part of that family. But Cubby and Harry made some business mistakes with a type of man Connery is and imho they never again did that again.

    It‘s (to me) a sad part of the Bond history - right up there with that whole Thunderball soap opera. In some ways it‘s a shame Connery made NSNA with McClory

    I think that was/is disgusting...he was prepared to damage the whole series ,damage peoples jobs,damage Roger Moore.

    If he had a grudge then fair enough but dont try to damage the series that made you who you are...thats another reason i dont really like Connery.

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    peter wrote: »
    Just whistle past, @Germanlady, whistle past... There are disagreements on these pages, in which I have been involved, but it gets wrapped up and people move on.

    But there's one amongst us who really enjoys poking and poking. He agrees with all contrarian view-points (which is fair enough), but that's his only bag; everything else written just seems to try and provoke. It's eye-rollingly predictable.

    He is disgusting! Shame on him and his tribe.
  • Posts: 19,339
    peter wrote: »
    Just whistle past, @Germanlady, whistle past... There are disagreements on these pages, in which I have been involved, but it gets wrapped up and people move on.

    But there's one amongst us who really enjoys poking and poking. He agrees with all contrarian view-points (which is fair enough), but that's his only bag; everything else written just seems to try and provoke. It's eye-rollingly predictable.

    He is disgusting! Shame on him and his tribe.

    Enough now eh ?
  • Posts: 1,162
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    IMHO DC put in a lot. On the physical side with own stunts, acting-wise with a deep(er) interpretation of the character (allowed by the script) and a lot of media bashing upfront of CR. He brought great talent behind and in front of the camera and Bond was not as big a thing since the 60s.

    I hope DC will become a great ambassador for Bond once he leaves the role behind - the best one in that sense was for sure the late Roger Moore.

    My original question was 'what exactly apart from the bulking up he invested into the role'. Frankly, none of the stunts he could have made himself are that impressing.
    Mind you, I wasn't talking about his take on the role and if I think it's a good or bad one. Each and everyone of the actors has brought his take to the role, exactly what is expected of you when you're an actor. I was asking what he brought, that no one else was willing to bring before him.
    But obviously an answer it's hard to get.
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