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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited May 2016 Posts: 8,395
    2016 will be quite baron, at least until Autumn/Winter. 2017 could be a huge year if there is a new Bond film coming in 2018 with a new Bond actor.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,154
    I'm just hoping for news of a release date at some point in 2016. My biggest fear....and not one that isn't justified if history repeats itself...is we hear NOTHING in 2016. Then halfway through 2017 we get the first official news: Next 007 adventure delayed indefinitely.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited May 2016 Posts: 15,715
    If Bond is recasted for Bond 25 I won't expect the film until 2019, possibly 2020. Chosing the right replacement for Craig will be a very tough search so EON will take their time to pick the correct actor. Unless some unknown actor has his own ''Layer Cake'-style' film in 2017, there is no clear candidate at this point, so it may take a while for EON to decide.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2016 Posts: 4,515
    IF DAD is repeat we wil know in October 2017 Daniel quite, New Bond in July 2018 and movie in November 2019. 2017 is 2 years after Spectre (2004 was 2 years after DAD) 2019 That's 4 years after Spectre like CR was 4 years after DAD.

    Big difrence is that i wish Brosnan making a fift because i liked him as Bond and like see another wim him and mabey making a better end of his era. But Daniel Craig Bond is not a standalone Bond era and need a fift and mabey a 6th movie because the unfinshed things/story.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Would most think, the more distant the release date, the more likely a new Bond?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited May 2016 Posts: 23,883
    talos7 wrote: »
    Would most think, the more distant the release date, the more likely a new Bond?
    Yes, I believe so. The longer this plays out the more likely we get a soft reboot and confine the self-contained Craig era to history. I can't see EON or a new studio wanting to bring back Craig for an SP continuation in 2019 or later when he only probably has one left in him. Moreover, his price is going up and not down and I can see them wanting to reset the profitability quotient for the next one.

    Interestingly, my dad, a Bond film and novel fan, finally saw SP. I asked him what he thought of it. He said it was pretty good, but he said it was like the last couple of Bond films. Surprised, I asked what he meant by that. He said they they keep trying to tie everything back together to the past - "why is everything always connected in these recent Bond films?" he asked. I laughed and told him that this is a point of contention on the web amongst fans. He also said that he's seeing a lot of this these days in all kinds of shows. I laughed again, and told him "yep", that's what we keep saying too.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    I can see EON wanting Daniel and Waltz back for sure. Barbara isn't about to let Daniel go.
  • daltondalton
    Posts: 1,631
    There is still plenty of time left for EON to get Bond 25 ready for theaters in late 2018. Even if there is to be a new face wearing the tux in the next one, they can still hit the 2018 mark as of now. First and foremost, Barbara Broccoli now has a successful casting of Bond under her belt and would no doubt, buoyed by the success of both Craig and his films, especially the critical acclaim of Skyfall, most likely be far more confident in her ability to get the job done this time around than she likely was the last time around, having learned from whatever mistakes may have been made in the process as well as taking note of the successes that were to be had as well.

    There's also the fact that they won't, hopefully, be facing the adverse situations that led to the delay the last time. The negotiations with Brosnan, followed by the death of Dana Broccoli, and then the breaking off of negotiations with Brosnan all took time to navigate. Those obstacles don't appear to be in play this time around. I would imagine that Craig will be an easier negotiation, because the ball is more in his court. Either he wants to and they sign on the dotted line quickly or he doesn't and everyone moves on, perhaps after a couple of counter offers by EON to try to sweeten the pot. There's no doubt that EON already has a short list of people to play Bond, of which they'll add names once a search is definitively underway. Cubby used to keep his eye on people, regardless of whether or not he had an actor occupying the role, and no doubt that Barbara and Michael Wilson have done the same. It's a part of their job to do so. That could also make the search for the next Bond go by a bit quicker than the last time, unless of course they have their eye on someone already and that person needs some convincing to take the part.

  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited May 2016 Posts: 4,515
    Bond 25 in 2018 or 2019.
    Bond 25 in 2018 and 26 in 2020
    Bond 25 in 2018 and 26 in 2019
    Bond 25 in 2019 and 26 in 2020

    Bond 25 in 2018 with Daniel Craig and Bond 26 in 2022 with new actor.
    Bond 25 in 2019 with Daniel Craig and Bond 26 in 2022 with new actor.

    I don't like it we must wait 4 years on Skyfall, but then we also can wait 4 years on Bond 25. I see this as option, but it wil be his final movie. 6th movie for him only if Bond 25 be released in 2018 or 2017. Option 5 ( 2018 and new actor in 2022) we should be happy with atleast. 2018 is 10 years after QOS and 110 years after Fleming was Born and 100 years a go first world war end. After that 4 years time to search for new Bond like DAD-CR.

    Spectre release in 2015 was 100 years after Harry Saltzman was Born. In 2019 it is 110 years a go Albert R Broccoli was born. 2019 also wil be the year it is 25 years a go Saltzman passing and 15 years a go Dana Broccoli passing and Desmond LLwelyn 20 years a go. But go for Fleming his birth.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Late 2018? Against a Star Wars movie?? [-X
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    dalton wrote: »
    There is still plenty of time left for EON to get Bond 25 ready for theaters in late 2018. Even if there is to be a new face wearing the tux in the next one, they can still hit the 2018 mark as of now. First and foremost, Barbara Broccoli now has a successful casting of Bond under her belt and would no doubt, buoyed by the success of both Craig and his films, especially the critical acclaim of Skyfall, most likely be far more confident in her ability to get the job done this time around than she likely was the last time around, having learned from whatever mistakes may have been made in the process as well as taking note of the successes that were to be had as well.

    There's also the fact that they won't, hopefully, be facing the adverse situations that led to the delay the last time. The negotiations with Brosnan, followed by the death of Dana Broccoli, and then the breaking off of negotiations with Brosnan all took time to navigate. Those obstacles don't appear to be in play this time around. I would imagine that Craig will be an easier negotiation, because the ball is more in his court. Either he wants to and they sign on the dotted line quickly or he doesn't and everyone moves on, perhaps after a couple of counter offers by EON to try to sweeten the pot. There's no doubt that EON already has a short list of people to play Bond, of which they'll add names once a search is definitively underway. Cubby used to keep his eye on people, regardless of whether or not he had an actor occupying the role, and no doubt that Barbara and Michael Wilson have done the same. It's a part of their job to do so. That could also make the search for the next Bond go by a bit quicker than the last time, unless of course they have their eye on someone already and that person needs some convincing to take the part.
    A part of me feels as if both Babs and MGW have struck such a close working relationship with Craig to the point where, out of respect, they would wait until they were absolutely sure he was gone before commencing the search for his successor.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Late 2018? Against a Star Wars movie?? [-X

    But there is a Star Wars film every year now.
  • daltondalton
    Posts: 1,631
    jake24 wrote: »
    dalton wrote: »
    There is still plenty of time left for EON to get Bond 25 ready for theaters in late 2018. Even if there is to be a new face wearing the tux in the next one, they can still hit the 2018 mark as of now. First and foremost, Barbara Broccoli now has a successful casting of Bond under her belt and would no doubt, buoyed by the success of both Craig and his films, especially the critical acclaim of Skyfall, most likely be far more confident in her ability to get the job done this time around than she likely was the last time around, having learned from whatever mistakes may have been made in the process as well as taking note of the successes that were to be had as well.

    There's also the fact that they won't, hopefully, be facing the adverse situations that led to the delay the last time. The negotiations with Brosnan, followed by the death of Dana Broccoli, and then the breaking off of negotiations with Brosnan all took time to navigate. Those obstacles don't appear to be in play this time around. I would imagine that Craig will be an easier negotiation, because the ball is more in his court. Either he wants to and they sign on the dotted line quickly or he doesn't and everyone moves on, perhaps after a couple of counter offers by EON to try to sweeten the pot. There's no doubt that EON already has a short list of people to play Bond, of which they'll add names once a search is definitively underway. Cubby used to keep his eye on people, regardless of whether or not he had an actor occupying the role, and no doubt that Barbara and Michael Wilson have done the same. It's a part of their job to do so. That could also make the search for the next Bond go by a bit quicker than the last time, unless of course they have their eye on someone already and that person needs some convincing to take the part.
    A part of me feels as if both Babs and MGW have struck such a close working relationship with Craig to the point where, out of respect, they would wait until they were absolutely sure he was gone before commencing the search for his successor.

    Possibly, but I'm not suggesting that they've looked so extensively that they have a definitive shortlist put together, but they almost certainly have some kind of list or some names in their mind just in case something drastic happened and they needed to recast quickly. They have names left over from the last casting who were on the younger side that would likely be at least tossed around the discussion table and I'm sure that one or both of them have seen some actor here or there in a film or TV show and thought that he has some potential.

    But, I'd say you're right in so far as I doubt they have a James Brolin-type ready to step in immediately like they did for Roger Moore back in the day.
  • The_ReaperThe_Reaper
    Posts: 1,092
    I still can't fathom why anyone believes they are even remotely considering recasting Craig. His films have made 3+ billion. Babs loves him to death; he's at the height of his acting prowess. They got Blofled and Spectre back and a two time Oscar winner playing the big heavy.

    What on earth are you people smoking?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited May 2016 Posts: 10,591
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    I still can't fathom why anyone believes they are even remotely considering recasting Craig. His films have made 3+ billion. Babs loves him to death; he's at the height of his acting prowess. They got Blofled and Spectre back and a two time Oscar winner playing the big heavy.

    What on earth are you people smoking?
    The only reason they would consider recasting Craig is his refusal to return. Again, this is purely speculation. Not a single person outside EoN's offices knows what Craig's current status is.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Late 2018? Against a Star Wars movie?? [-X

    But there is a Star Wars film every year now.

    My point exactly. EoN are kind of screwed. They need to readjust their financial position i.e. budgets and BO expectations because they're going to get the Jonah effect and get swallowed up. EoN for the time being shouldn't even think about attempting to chase that $billion BO.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Late 2018? Against a Star Wars movie?? [-X

    But there is a Star Wars film every year now.

    My point exactly. EoN are kind of screwed. They need to readjust their financial position i.e. budgets and BO expectations because they're going to get the Jonah effect and get
    swallowed up. EoN for the time being shouldn't even think about attempting to
    chase that $billion BO.

    Maybe they need to move at another time of year as well.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Late 2018? Against a Star Wars movie?? [-X

    But there is a Star Wars film every year now.

    My point exactly. EoN are kind of screwed. They need to readjust their financial position i.e. budgets and BO expectations because they're going to get the Jonah effect and get
    swallowed up. EoN for the time being shouldn't even think about attempting to
    chase that $billion BO.

    Maybe they need to move at another time of year as well.
    Whatever happened to Summer releases.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    edited May 2016 Posts: 4,325
    I wouldn't be surprised if we get a summer release for Bond 25, with Star Wars films each year. M:I RN was going to come out back end 2015 but was brought forward to avoid Spectre and Star Wars, wouldn't be surprised if Bond does the same - so maybe Summer 2019 for Bond 25. It would be weird for me for a Bond to come out in the summer, I've only ever experienced them coming out at the back end of the year.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    They might start to benefit from a summer release. The box office tends to fizzle out in the fall sometimes.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    Actually, that's not a bad idea. So instead of 4 years after SPECTRE or 4 years, It'll be 3 and a half. That's enough time to find a new Bond (if they need to) and also avoid the Star Wars hype bubble.
  • daltondalton
    Posts: 1,631
    I don't see a move to summer benefiting them enough to warrant a move from the fall. If they're that afraid of Star Wars, then perhaps a move into earlier October might be more warranted, rather than going with the staggering the last week of October and first week of November for the UK and US, respectively, as they've done for the last couple. A world-wide release sometime in mid-October would give them the clearance from Star Wars that they'd desire without having to deal with the onslaught of competition in the summer months.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited May 2016 Posts: 16,154
    I miss the summer releases. Octopussy was great in the summer of '83. I had a blast that summer. It was also great seeing AVTAK and TLD in the summer. You didn't have to wait the entire year for it to come out. Also they would begin shooting August or September the previous year and the announcements seemed to come earlier. I thought it was great seeing the teaser trailer for Daylights around Christmas of '86. I got very pumped for the new Bond-Dalton.
    Nowadays you could release the newest Bond in June/July and get the Blu-ray for Christmas. Another bonus for a summer release.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I miss the summer releases. Octopussy was great in the summer of '83. I had a blast that summer. It was also great seeing AVTAK and TLD in the summer. You didn't have to wait the entire year for it to come out. Also they would begin shooting August or September the previous year and the announcements seemed to come earlier. I thought it was great seeing the teaser trailer for Daylights around Christmas of '86. I got very pumped for the new Bond-Dalton.
    Nowadays you could release the newest Bond in June/July and by get the Blu-ray for Christmas. Another bonus for a summer release.

    That sounds very nice.
  • DisneyBond007DisneyBond007 Welwyn Garden City
    Posts: 100
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    I still can't fathom why anyone believes they are even remotely considering recasting Craig. His films have made 3+ billion. Babs loves him to death; he's at the height of his acting prowess. They got Blofled and Spectre back and a two time Oscar winner playing the big heavy.

    What on earth are you people smoking?

    That's against the lord of time?
  • karatemanchan37karatemanchan37
    Posts: 584
    John Logan is still signed on for Bond 25, right? Any word on him?
  • daltondalton
    Posts: 1,631
    I can't imagine that Logan will return after EON had to bring back P&W to save the original script from disaster.

    I wouldn't mind it, though, if the choice were to come down to either him or P&W. His ideas for Spectre that were dropped were more interesting than what ultimately made it into the film.

    Still, it would be better for a clean slate the next time around, in as many of the creative roles as possible.
  • DisneyBond007DisneyBond007 Welwyn Garden City
    Posts: 100
    dalton wrote: »
    I can't imagine that Logan will return after EON had to bring back P&W to save the original script from disaster.

    I wouldn't mind it, though, if the choice were to come down to either him or P&W. His ideas for Spectre that were dropped were more interesting than what ultimately made it into the film.

    Still, it would be better for a clean slate the next time around, in as many of the creative roles as possible.

    Maybe George RR Martin will do it then for Bond 25.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I miss the summer releases. Octopussy was great in the summer of '83. I had a blast that summer. It was also great seeing AVTAK and TLD in the summer. You didn't have to wait the entire year for it to come out. Also they would begin shooting August or September the previous year and the announcements seemed to come earlier. I thought it was great seeing the teaser trailer for Daylights around Christmas of '86. I got very pumped for the new Bond-Dalton.
    Nowadays you could release the newest Bond in June/July and get the Blu-ray for Christmas. Another bonus for a summer release.

    I fondly recall the release of MR and FYEO in the summers of '79 and '81. Glorious times, those...

  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    I have never experienced seeing a Bond movie in theaters during the summer. So I would love a summer release
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