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At last the return of the still small voice of calm welcome back GL.
SP had a budget of $245million and that's NOT including marketing costs. That was an increase on SF's budget and the film made a noticeable less amount of money.
No Bond film should be costing as much as SP. No way no how!
I agree, they opened up the purse strings after SF was a huge hit, and it was probably a mistake. However with B25 they could get a cheaper actor (this is part of why Turner is so ripe right now), less extravagant director and bring that budget down to around 150 million. Then even a modest return would mean a pretty hefty profit margin. Just make an old fashioned spy thriller, a stand alone Bond adventure where he follows the trail and uncovers some hidden threat. Keep it around the 2 hour mark, like Fury Road did, and you've got yourself a classic Bond outing. I think part if the problem with modern Bond is that they keep trying to overthink things and make them needlessly convoluted in the process. My favourite Bond film is Dr No. That film has the simplest, clothesline plot ever but it is brilliant in its execution. The little finesses that seem to have been paved over over time. Thats what I hope to see return with B25.
I agree, EON has gotten into an attitude that throwing money away will solve a situation, its not a good attitude IMO.
I agree. I'd also like to say that the cost of the actor isn't even an issue if we think about it. Craig doesn't make Will Smith or Robert Downey JR money and yet their films aren't costing as much even with ensemble casts. I don't know what Craig's pay is but whatever it is, it's still possible to pay him what he's "worth" and still keep costs well under $200 million. A budget of $150 to 175million tops is ideal. Some of the stuff that EoN spent money on in SP like all the db10s that were written off which cost $35million and the SP base explosion were an epic waste of money.
That's just embarrassing. The cinematography for the Raid 2, heck everything in the Raid 2 craps all over the majority of Hollywood action films. The inventiveness and staging of the action set pieces and fist fights, the camera work, the vehicular stunts...jeez and I'm supposed to be excited for an overblown budgeted crappy "car chase" in SP?? Fuck it, I'm watching the Raid 2 again tonight!
Ok sure, Wick, Raid 2 and Taken were shot almost entirely in 1 single city. But, so did FRWL and I rarely see anyone on these forums not be in awe of that film.
If your PM calls up negotiating for location permission and to implement logistics for a small independent film they have limits. If you're Bond they know you have the money and they'll charge you accordingly. It's like football teams. If you're a team with a shed load of money they're hardly going to give you a cheap deal, they'll squeeze you for all they can get. Basically the comparisons being made don't stand up, on several levels.
Where's your source? The Daily Mail, no doubt.
Except, in this case, Eon cooperated with the Daily Mail, giving the tabloid access.
//Details of the eye-popping stunts, which also include a mid-air struggle on a helicopter’s landing gear, are revealed in a special edition of today’s Event magazine with The Mail on Sunday, the only official insiders’ guide to the making of the £200 million movie. //
//Speaking exclusively to Event, which was given unprecedented access to the set, chief stunt co-ordinator Gary Powell, said: ‘We set the record for smashing up cars on Spectre.
‘In Rome, we wrecked millions of pounds worth. They were going into the Vatican at top speeds of 110 mph. We shot one entire night for four seconds of film.’ //
http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/jaguar-talks-about-the-c-x75-electric-hypercar-all-1-2-million-of-it/
http://bit.ly/222KH8C
I do feel Eon is probably in the early stages of development as we speak...........
ok
That sounds a like bragging. As if we should be impressed by it. Like it's a positive record to have, and like wrecking millions of pounds worth of cars is cool somehow. If that's the attitude then no wonder the budgets are ridiculous.
Meanwhile, David Cronenberg is reportedly considering giving up making movies, finding it a real struggle to get financing. He could have made a movie or two with the cost of one crappy car chase. Oh well.
When Mendes was shooting the explosion of Blofeld's facility, for example, he was beyond cheery (as was Corbould and the rest of the crew) as they wasted millions of dollars on real explosives to blow up the set, just so they could say they got a damn Guinness world record. They could have saved all those millions by shooting with miniatures and a modicum of CGI, you know, like most smart and sensible filmmakers would, but again, like Powell they somehow took joy in throwing all that money into the fire.
How the studio allows this, especially when they have to worry about these films making profit beyond their cost, I have no idea. With smart budgeting and a little ingenuity, like EON used to have when Cubby was at the helm, SP's budget would've been cut in half, and then some.
But these films barely shoot on location anymore, so clearly the old days are gone. I was saddened watching a special effects feature on SP recently, where much of what we saw on screen in some scenes was entirely computer generated. Not only are we not getting true, on location sequences much anymore, worse yet, when we think we're seeing Bond on location, much of that is all smoke and mirrors.
It'd be glorious to get back to the Moore era ways of doing location shooting, where the crew actually visited exotic and epic locations (as in TSWLM), showing them as they truly were with no scene dressing. And most of all, when the locations appeared on the big screen with Bond roaming around in them, they truly leapt off the screen and we felt like we were right there with him. That magic is sadly nearly gone.