No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 1,970
    2010 she would get it 100%. She still has a chance now too just not as high.

    She would be fantastic and she would take the project so serious.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited June 2018 Posts: 8,206
    She’s in a better position than Chris Cornell was in when he got the CR gig.
  • Posts: 1,680
    The title for B25 will likely be a statement on the character. I don't think it will be a location or organization. Btw skyfall is on ifc, craig has aged a lot since 2012
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 11,425
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The Property of a Lady and Risico remain my Top 2 choices. After that it becomes sort of murky.

    Mine as well, though I do like THE HILDEBRAND RARITY. Pity SPECTRE kind of messed that option up.

    they were never going to use the Hildebrand rarity. sounds like a Sherlock Holmes story.

    property of a lady might just be a goer one day but also has a slightly Edwardian vibe.

    let's just hope they don't go for one of those lame kill/die/never composites
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,290
    The Property of a Lady would have made total sense when TND was about the Hong Kong handover.
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 16,162
    Getafix wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The Property of a Lady and Risico remain my Top 2 choices. After that it becomes sort of murky.

    Mine as well, though I do like THE HILDEBRAND RARITY. Pity SPECTRE kind of messed that option up.

    they were never going to use the Hildebrand rarity. sounds like a Sherlock Holmes story.

    property of a lady might just be a goer one day but also has a slightly Edwardian vibe.

    let's just hope they don't go for one of those lame kill/die/never composites

    Mickey G did state in an interview around the time of LTK that they wouldn't be using THR. However during, QoS he seemed to change his mind a bit considering they were using QoS and getting away with it.
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    wonder if they associate some of QOS's mixed reception with the tricky title. might have burnt them
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 5,767
    I'm re-reading some bits and pieces of the amazing SOME KIND OF HERO book, and a unused title for SKYFALL came to my mind, that I think would fit perfectly for BOND 25.

    NOTHING IS FOREVER

    What do you guys think?

    Sounds like a crossbreed between Never say Never again and Die another Day.


    TripAces wrote: »
    So I am rewatching Blade Runner 2049 and remembering how much I liked Ana de Armas and thought she would make a great Bond girl. Well, turns out she is in the musical that Boyle is currently filming. Hmmmmm...

    Yes, she looks like a face that's going to be cast more intensively over the next few years, so why not in the context of Boyle Bond? I wouldn't mind her, and Eon would save time ;-).
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,183
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Interesting to see if David Arnold comes back onboard with Danny Boyle? If he does? Hopefully we may get a rendition of the 007 theme after so many years?!!!

    I doubt it. Arnold was the biggest Bond fanboy composer the series ever had, already scored five films, and never bothered to bring back the 007 theme. I thought there may have been a chance when Craig got the role (given how Arnold used the Bond theme much less), but that wasn't the case. It's even telling that he didn't use it in his "Shaken Not Stirred" project.

    I honestly do not think we'll ever hear the 007 theme again. Even Barry himself abandoned it after MR, which is nearly 40 years ago.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Interesting to see if David Arnold comes back onboard with Danny Boyle? If he does? Hopefully we may get a rendition of the 007 theme after so many years?!!!

    I doubt it. Arnold was the biggest Bond fanboy composer the series ever had, already scored five films, and never bothered to bring back the 007 theme. I thought there may have been a chance when Craig got the role (given how Arnold used the Bond theme much less), but that wasn't the case. It's even telling that he didn't use it in his "Shaken Not Stirred" project.

    I honestly do not think we'll ever hear the 007 theme again. Even Barry himself abandoned it after MR, which is nearly 40 years ago.

    He wanted to, but he couldn't because they had to pay royalties to Barry's estate. Yet he did quote the 007 theme in Die Another Day.

    Listen to the drums at 2:02



    As others said before, the 007 theme is too much lighthearted and adventurous to be used in a Craig film.
  • Posts: 9,846
    Getafix wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The Property of a Lady and Risico remain my Top 2 choices. After that it becomes sort of murky.

    Mine as well, though I do like THE HILDEBRAND RARITY. Pity SPECTRE kind of messed that option up.

    they were never going to use the Hildebrand rarity. sounds like a Sherlock Holmes story.

    property of a lady might just be a goer one day but also has a slightly Edwardian vibe.

    let's just hope they don't go for one of those lame kill/die/never composites

    I honestly believe before the last bond film ever happens they will exaust all of Fleming which means while we may not get them now we will one day have films titled

    Risico (likely after Michael dies or retires as he hates this title so I doubt he would allow it but Babs might)
    The property of a lady
    The hildebrand Rarity (part of me thinks they set up hildebrand in the last one as a way to possibly use the title for Bond 25 but as the original plan has changed who knows)
    And 007 in New York (though I fear that might be soon)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That has come up a few times (mostly from critics, both professional and armchair), especially around the time of release. Like it confused people ("REVOKED"?). Personally, I don't think that had anything to do with it. The success of a Bond film will rely on the goodwill that the predecessor left in it's wake, and if that was lackluster, then the pre-buzz form the media and word of mouth will get them out there (SF following OQS). I don't think that with the well known franchises the title makes an iota of difference.
    Agreed. Fallout is a rather boring title for the next MI, but that hasn't reduced my enthusiasm for it one bit.

    Re: 'Revoked': I recently realized that this term was used prominently in Lethal Weapon 2, when the chief baddie was killed. That film was released in the same year as LTK and crushed it at the US box office, so enough people likely would have been familiar with the term and what it meant by the end of the summer of 1989.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    bondjames wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That has come up a few times (mostly from critics, both professional and armchair), especially around the time of release. Like it confused people ("REVOKED"?). Personally, I don't think that had anything to do with it. The success of a Bond film will rely on the goodwill that the predecessor left in it's wake, and if that was lackluster, then the pre-buzz form the media and word of mouth will get them out there (SF following OQS). I don't think that with the well known franchises the title makes an iota of difference.
    Agreed. Fallout is a rather boring title for the next MI, but that hasn't reduced my enthusiasm for it one bit.

    Re: 'Revoked': I recently realized that this term was used prominently in Lethal Weapon 2, when the chief baddie was killed. That film was released in the same year as LTK and crushed it at the US box office, so enough people likely would have been familiar with the term and what it meant by the end of the summer of 1989.

    You mean when the legendary Murtaugh cuts him down? "IT'S JUST BEEN REVOKED!" Classic.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That has come up a few times (mostly from critics, both professional and armchair), especially around the time of release. Like it confused people ("REVOKED"?). Personally, I don't think that had anything to do with it. The success of a Bond film will rely on the goodwill that the predecessor left in it's wake, and if that was lackluster, then the pre-buzz form the media and word of mouth will get them out there (SF following OQS). I don't think that with the well known franchises the title makes an iota of difference.
    Agreed. Fallout is a rather boring title for the next MI, but that hasn't reduced my enthusiasm for it one bit.

    Re: 'Revoked': I recently realized that this term was used prominently in Lethal Weapon 2, when the chief baddie was killed. That film was released in the same year as LTK and crushed it at the US box office, so enough people likely would have been familiar with the term and what it meant by the end of the summer of 1989.

    You mean when the legendary Murtaugh cuts him down? "IT'S JUST BEEN REVOKED!" Classic.
    Yes, that's it. Great film.

    From what I've read, it wasn't so much the lack of understanding of the term as it was the association by US viewers with a driver's license revokation which led EON to drop the originally proposed title. It was a mistake imho. License Revoked is much cooler than the generic title we eventually got.
  • Goldeneye0094Goldeneye0094 Conyers, GA
    Posts: 464
    License Revoked would have made alot more sense of a title but unfortunately the americans didn't get it
  • Posts: 1,407
    License Revoked would have made alot more sense of a title but unfortunately the americans didn't get it

    It's not that Americans didn't get it. It's that the studio thought that they wouldn't get it. Which is strange. But whatever
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,584
    License Revoked would have made alot more sense of a title but unfortunately the americans didn't get it

    I remember reading the Lee Worrall book from back in the late 90s. Apparently us Americans thought it was thinking about losing their drivers license.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    License Revoked would have made alot more sense of a title but unfortunately the americans didn't get it

    I remember reading the Lee Worrall book from back in the late 90s. Apparently us Americans thought it was thinking about losing their drivers license.

    There was probably just one moron asking that question, and they extrapolated from that.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Birdleson wrote: »
    No way in Hell. I'm so sick of Forever, Never, Days, Dying, Die, Tomorrow, or any kind of Day or Time. No way.

    This.
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 5,767
    Walecs wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Interesting to see if David Arnold comes back onboard with Danny Boyle? If he does? Hopefully we may get a rendition of the 007 theme after so many years?!!!

    I doubt it. Arnold was the biggest Bond fanboy composer the series ever had, already scored five films, and never bothered to bring back the 007 theme. I thought there may have been a chance when Craig got the role (given how Arnold used the Bond theme much less), but that wasn't the case. It's even telling that he didn't use it in his "Shaken Not Stirred" project.

    I honestly do not think we'll ever hear the 007 theme again. Even Barry himself abandoned it after MR, which is nearly 40 years ago.

    He wanted to, but he couldn't because they had to pay royalties to Barry's estate. Yet he did quote the 007 theme in Die Another Day.

    Listen to the drums at 2:02



    As others said before, the 007 theme is too much lighthearted and adventurous to be used in a Craig film.
    Interesting observation with that 2:02, @Walecs!
    I disagree that the 007 theme would be too lighthearted and adventurous for Craig. I could imagine it fitting right in with stuff for instance from the boat chase in QoS. It all depends on the arrangement.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    I tried making "007" fit in the plane chase of SP. One more traditional and the other using Thunderball's arrangment. I think both fit fine.



  • Posts: 632
    I'd have to agree with you, Murdock, especially when Craig gives the wave! Good job!
  • Posts: 5,767
    I would have imagined the rhythm part with distorted guitars, but even as it is there I find it quite ok.
  • Posts: 16,162
    bondjames wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That has come up a few times (mostly from critics, both professional and armchair), especially around the time of release. Like it confused people ("REVOKED"?). Personally, I don't think that had anything to do with it. The success of a Bond film will rely on the goodwill that the predecessor left in it's wake, and if that was lackluster, then the pre-buzz form the media and word of mouth will get them out there (SF following OQS). I don't think that with the well known franchises the title makes an iota of difference.
    Agreed. Fallout is a rather boring title for the next MI, but that hasn't reduced my enthusiasm for it one bit.

    Re: 'Revoked': I recently realized that this term was used prominently in Lethal Weapon 2, when the chief baddie was killed. That film was released in the same year as LTK and crushed it at the US box office, so enough people likely would have been familiar with the term and what it meant by the end of the summer of 1989.

    You mean when the legendary Murtaugh cuts him down? "IT'S JUST BEEN REVOKED!" Classic.
    Yes, that's it. Great film.

    From what I've read, it wasn't so much the lack of understanding of the term as it was the association by US viewers with a driver's license revokation which led EON to drop the originally proposed title. It was a mistake imho. License Revoked is much cooler than the generic title we eventually got.

    I immediately thought of the latest Bond when I saw LETHAL WEAPON 2 in the cinema and he says that line.

    I also lamented the title change. LICENCE REVOKED as far as original Eon titles go, I like much better than the made up Brosnan titles.

    I do remember seeing the clapperboard display the title as LICENSE REVOKED with the American spelling. In my own odd little opinion, I'm glad Eon went with the British spelling for the film's final title. LICENCE TO KILL looks far better to me than LICENSE TO KILL. However, had the original title remained I would have been fine with the American spelling.

    I wonder when the decision to change the title actually occurred, and who made the final choice regarding the spelling?
  • Posts: 1,917
    Curious they'd keep the word license/licence in the title when a year earlier there was a hit teen film in the U.S. called License to Drive with the two Coreys.

    Even if you don't remember the film you may have heard the hit song from it, Billy Ocean's Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car.

    I'd bet some people saw only "Licence" and figured they already saw it last year. Or in the other case some not-so-bright people who thought LTK was that film.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    BT3366 wrote: »
    Curious they'd keep the word license/licence in the title when a year earlier there was a hit teen film in the U.S. called License to Drive with the two Coreys.

    Even if you don't remember the film you may have heard the hit song from it, Billy Ocean's Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car.

    I'd bet some people saw only "Licence" and figured they already saw it last year. Or in the other case some not-so-bright people who thought LTK was that film.

    Ha I love License to Drive.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Honestly, I prefer Licence to Kill over Licence Revoked.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    Murdock wrote: »
    Honestly, I prefer Licence to Kill over Licence Revoked.

    So do I. It sounds cooler.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    What does this have to do with B25?
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