No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Zimmer outside of the superhero genre can be excellent. Two examples below. Note the Barry'esque cimbalon use on Sherlock Holmes.



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    Boyle has a brilliant track record with soundtracks in his films so no fears there. As long as the Bond theme is used sparingly and the gun barrel is added at the end!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Gunbarrel at the end... Wow...
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    Regarding London locations--let's not forget that many "foreign" locations in the Bond films were actually British ones doubling for faraway places. In GE for example only a couple of background shots were filmed in Russia--the vast majority of the "Russian" scenes were filmed in England.
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    I do wonder if the next one will be simply titled "James Bond".
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I do wonder if the next one will be simply titled "James Bond".

    After the recent Jason Bourne, I really hope not. I don't want them to ever use that as a title.

    "Daniel Craig as James Bond in James Bond." What?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    More like "Daniel Craig is.... James Bond." :))
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    Albert R Broccoli's EON PRODUCTIONS present

    DANIEL CRAIG


    as Ian Fleming's
    JAMES BOND 007


    in


    JAMES BOND




    Doesn't quite work for me.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited June 2018 Posts: 15,423
    After Spectre, nothing would surprise me, if I'm honest. The laziest titling of a Bond film since LTK.
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    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Could be ever see Bond turn his back on queen and country for a time ie attempt to kill M?

    I doubt he tries to kill M but I could see the "big idea" being Bond actually working against the government. He gets sent on a mission, sees something he doesn't like and has his whole for queen and country mindset challenged. Boyle's quite liberal so I think something anti establishment like that wouldn't be too far fetched, it'd also explain London as a location, and if the female protege rumours are true then maybe she's the one sent after him.

    I've bitched about Bond going rogue a lot before but this would actually be interesting imo. Not just "Bond goes rogue but he's just finishing the mission really and MI6 realise that in the end". Bond actively working against the government, turning traitor for moral reasons. Could be an exciting way to end the Craig era.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Nolan is wrong for Bond 26 or beyond. It'd be Mendes all over again. His films are bloated and unemotional.

    I understand he loves Bond, but he doesn't shoot action well. Compare his OHMSS homage to the original. Hunt and Glen did it a better.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    His writing leaves much to be desired too. Melodramatic cheese.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited June 2018 Posts: 4,585
    double post
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    echo wrote: »
    Nolan is wrong for Bond 26 or beyond. It'd be Mendes all over again. His films are bloated and unemotional.

    I understand he loves Bond, but he doesn't shoot action well. Compare his OHMSS homage to the original. Hunt and Glen did it a better.

    Perfectly said.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    RC7 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    QQ7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I will give Boyle a fair chance look if he delivers a brilliant film then I will sing his praises if he delivers garbage no matter how prestigious he is I will say so.

    Sorry Mendes films are in the teens for me but Marc forester film is number 2 for me.

    Martin Campbell of course is number 1 for me with Casino Royale but I digress

    Martin Cambell is #1 for me as well, GoldenEye and Casino Royale are classics which saved the franchise.

    I hope that he can direct Bond 26 with a new actor and "save" the Bond once more.
    Are you serious? The great Christopher Nolan is ready to write AND direct Bond 26, and you want Martin Campbell back??

    Campbell has proven his worth for the 007 franchise and Nolan isjust a wet dream for some. ;)

    Campbell's direction was not the reason CR was a success. All he had to do was not mess it up, and in the first half of the film, he practically did all by himself.

    Don't get me started on Campbell's sophomoric approach to filmmaking.

    Have you had some sort of mental breakdown?

    LOL. No. But I find a lot of the camerawork and art direction in CR to be lacking. The film has not aged well at all. This is mostly true in the first half of the film. When we get to Montenegro, things click a lot better.

    Does any of this matter? Not really. I still count CR as one of my top 4 Bond films. It's solid, overall. But if we focus in, solely on some of Campbell's work in this film, it's quite underwhelming, tbh.

    I have discussed this before, elsewhere. The embassy scene is dreadful, starting with the somersault, and the ridiculous mid shot on DC's face coming out of it. Then Campbell resorts to odd close-ups of pained faces, of a siren, of a video camera. watch this sequence with the sound off. It's not good. And it is the fakest set in the DC era. (That part may not be Campbell's fault.) Then we get the Ford car commercial. The attempt to double Prague as Miami. The overly-long airport chase, punctuated by DC looking constipated while trying to stop a refueling truck.

    It settles down on the train, with Vesper.

    I also wonder why MC edited the PTS, to not include Bond following Drefus's contact. It was highly effective...(at the 1:30 mark)



    But again? None of this mattered much, overall. But there are good reasons for not wanting Campbell back.
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 11,425
    TripAces wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    SaintMark wrote: »
    QQ7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I will give Boyle a fair chance look if he delivers a brilliant film then I will sing his praises if he delivers garbage no matter how prestigious he is I will say so.

    Sorry Mendes films are in the teens for me but Marc forester film is number 2 for me.

    Martin Campbell of course is number 1 for me with Casino Royale but I digress

    Martin Cambell is #1 for me as well, GoldenEye and Casino Royale are classics which saved the franchise.

    I hope that he can direct Bond 26 with a new actor and "save" the Bond once more.
    Are you serious? The great Christopher Nolan is ready to write AND direct Bond 26, and you want Martin Campbell back??

    Campbell has proven his worth for the 007 franchise and Nolan isjust a wet dream for some. ;)

    Campbell's direction was not the reason CR was a success. All he had to do was not mess it up, and in the first half of the film, he practically did all by himself.

    Don't get me started on Campbell's sophomoric approach to filmmaking.

    Have you had some sort of mental breakdown?

    LOL. No. But I find a lot of the camerawork and art direction in CR to be lacking. The film has not aged well at all. This is mostly true in the first half of the film. When we get to Montenegro, things click a lot better.

    Does any of this matter? Not really. I still count CR as one of my top 4 Bond films. It's solid, overall. But if we focus in, solely on some of Campbell's work in this film, it's quite underwhelming, tbh.

    I have discussed this before, elsewhere. The embassy scene is dreadful, starting with the somersault, and the ridiculous mid shot on DC's face coming out of it. Then Campbell resorts to odd close-ups of pained faces, of a siren, of a video camera. watch this sequence with the sound off. It's not good. And it is the fakest set in the DC era. (That part may not be Campbell's fault.) Then we get the Ford car commercial. The attempt to double Prague as Miami. The overly-long airport chase, punctuated by DC looking constipated while trying to stop a refueling truck.

    It settles down on the train, with Vesper.

    I also wonder why MC edited the PTS, to not include Bond following Drefus's contact. It was highly effective...(at the 1:30 mark)



    But again? None of this mattered much, overall. But there are good reasons for not wanting Campbell back.

    Pretty much agree with lots of this. I am a Campbell sceptic. GE is massively overrated and large chunks of CR are really quite ropey.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Murdock wrote: »
    His writing leaves much to be desired too. Melodramatic cheese.

    "I have no armour left, you've striped it from me!"
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    How I miss Maibaum's solid plotting and genuinely witty dialogue.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    "I got a brudder".
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    if that's a quote from live and let die then Maibaum didn't write it
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited June 2018 Posts: 11,139
    DAF actually.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Zimmer outside of the superhero genre can be excellent. Two examples below. Note the Barry'esque cimbalon use on Sherlock Holmes.
    But Zimmer never had the problem of not having good ideas. He most of the time has excellent ideas. The problem with Zimmer is that he uses a tiny few excellent ideas and fills the other 80% of the score with a whole lot of dull stuff.

  • edited June 2018 Posts: 11,425
    doubleoego wrote: »
    DAF actually.

    co-written. Could have been Mankiewizc....

    I can't remember the context but sounds ropey.

    having said that DAF is full of lots of good dialogue.
  • RC7RC7
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    Getafix wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    DAF actually.

    co-wrttien. Could have been Mankiewizc....

    I can't remember the context but sounds ropey.

    How can you not remember that scene?

    ‘Small world’.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Murdock wrote: »
    His writing leaves much to be desired too. Melodramatic cheese.

    "I have no armour left, you've striped it from me!"

    I'm one of the very few who liked that line.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    His writing leaves much to be desired too. Melodramatic cheese.

    "I have no armour left, you've striped it from me!"

    I'm one of the very few who liked that line.

    +1
    Same here.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    00Agent wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    His writing leaves much to be desired too. Melodramatic cheese.

    "I have no armour left, you've striped it from me!"

    I'm one of the very few who liked that line.

    +1
    Same here.

    +2. I once used a variation of that with a person I truly cared about.
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    I really hope they don't go down the helicopters or parachute route. Comprarisons with MI will be inevitable.
    Having said that, coming up with new and original set pieces is just getting harder and harder.
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    they just don't have the right people working on it. they can't even manage competent or passable these days - the action has become really lame. the average episode of the A Team had better stunt work
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Did anyone watch the Tony Awards last night? Babs play cleaned up. Was wondering if she was there on the off chance we might get a brief interview with a B25 mention.
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