No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Well, I think we should at very least try having the new thread. Why not?

    Bond25 discussion here (which would be kept always as the current Bond production thread) and a future chat re Bond film produciton in new thread.

    If it does NOT work, after a decent trial (a month maybe?) then we can change back. But I think it is really worth trying.

    It keeps members able to have those future Bond discussions mainly in one thread, not just this one - and keeps this valuable thread for chat on current Bond film that is in production.
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 17,753
    Wouldn't be against a separate thread either. My only "fear" is that the discussion in a 'future Bond films' thread might become heavy on who the next actor might be - which already has it's own thread.

    Plenty of other things to discuss in a thread like that, of course.
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    Wouldn't be against a separate thread either. My only "fear" is that the discussion in a 'future Bond films' thread might become heavy on who the next actor might be - which already has it's own thread.

    Plenty of other things to discuss in a thread like that, of course.

    Thats why I said, it could ne merged. Bit even if not, what harm would it do? None.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I think it's already been mentioned that we have such a thread already. No need for another one.

    As far as this thread goes, as I mentioned earlier, there really is nothing pertaining to 'production' to discuss unless I am mistaken. Once there is, I'm sure we'll all start to focus on that.

    For the time being (and to be frank, for the last 1600 pages or so), this thread has really been rampant speculation about all things Bond (future, current and past), which is perfectly fine with me until we get some 'meat on the bone' regarding B25. I don't think that will happen until the end of the year.

    In the meanwhile, if we get some B25 actor or plot rumours from decent sources (rather than physical trainers or redditers), I'm sure we'll focus on that for a few pages, as is natural. Then we will digress, again as natural on a catch all speculation thread (which is the purpose this thread is serving in lieu of hard data).

    I don't understand the need to merge a Bond Actor thread with a general future speculation thread. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Yep, pretty much everything that could be discussed about the future (that hasn't been said to death here) can be done so in the Next Actor thread or other likeminded threads. Opening a Bond 26 thread now when Bond 25 doesn't even begin filming for six more months is going to lead to spam. Has nothing to do with who did or didn't open it; just discuss it in the threads that already exist. Let's move on and keep this Bond 25 centric, please.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    So you are saying keep the spam, the irrelevant off topic chat, all of that HERE. I don't understand that. I don't think it is beneficial to this thread at all.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited June 2018 Posts: 12,480
    @Creasy47, people do NOT go to other threads.

    If the mods insist on keeping this thread (which I want kept just cleaned up)- I mean not give people one solid future Bond thread then can you all please, pretty please, direct all off topic (non current Bond 25 production) discussion to other threads immediately? Instead of letting it all pour out here. That would mean a change in policy for here, this thread. A lot of policing, so to speak. But my goal is keeping Bond25 production thread here on Bond 25. I think we agree on that. It is not currently working at all. So who would do the reminding, policing, getting off topics to be moved?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited June 2018 Posts: 40,968
    Nope. What I said was this thread needn't be used for the future of the series anymore, as it's for Bond 25. If people still want to engage in Bond 26 chatter, then they can do so in the threads that already exist for it, like the Next Actor thread. There's no point in making a thread for Bond 26 when Bond 25 hasn't even begun filming, is my point. Otherwise, why not open threads for Bond 27, 28, 29, etc.?

    It's what we keep asking: please stop discussing post-Bond 25 stuff here and take it to the appropriate threads. It's simple, not much more we can do than direct it. Bond 25 production will begin before we know it and most of us won't want to discuss anything but that, so it'll die down eventually either way - in the meantime, let's keep this thread cleaned up by taking the topic of the future elsewhere.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited June 2018 Posts: 12,480
    Well, it has not worked. Okay - what can I say? I know there is a future Bond thread (Bond 26 and beyond) discussion already, etc.

    Therefore, I guess all members need to remind each other (not just mods or thread original owner) to take off topic discussion elsewhere. That would need to be a reminder right off the bat, as soon as somebody goes off topic. And of course, a polite reminder - we all go off topic accidentally at times.

    So far, this thread has stayed a mess of off topic chat. You (mods) must be as frustrated as people who come here to read about Bond25.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Yes, if nobody discusses it here, then it won't be an issue. Simple, hopefully, so please abide by that everyone. It's appreciated.
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    We know, it wont work. Its ridiculous we need to BEG for a thread, that totally makes sense for many- as can be read here. Please remember, this forum lives from its its members, not the Mods.

    And what other 26 threads are there apart from the sctors thread?
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited June 2018 Posts: 12,480
    OK, so my last points are this:

    1) The simplicity and helpfulness of having only ONE thread to recommend ("Oh that's off topic, please go to the Bond26 & Beyond thread") would have, I think, been a bit more effective.
    2) Now we say as mods and others have always said, "Oh that's off topic, please go find the relevant thread) and nobody will be inclined to make that effort.

    I am not inclined to figure out which particular thread the person should go to (I'd have to find the exact wording; Future Bond Actors or whatever) and the person commenting would not be inclined to go look at the list of thread topics to find it either.

    So things will probably remain the same, cluttered here. If we can all help, perhaps this will change for the better.

    I am not upset, I merely thought having one thread only to recommend would help members to actually do that (move discussion). As it remains, I think little effort will happen (that's just a natural reaction). I do like having a production thread on the current film.

    As some of you know, I'm a teacher, and I've been accused in the past as coming off as a teacher too much. So sorry if I again come across like that - so let me close by saying that it will take all members here who enjoy this thread on current Bond film production to remind others to take their off topic chat elsewhere. Not just the mods. And the reminder needs to be polite and done asap when off topic chat appears.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited June 2018 Posts: 40,968
    What? Take the chatter to the appropriate threads and it will work...yet we're still discussing it instead of doing so.

    As for the other threads, we have: Bond Actor, Bond Girl, Bond 25 And Beyond Directors, another Future Bond Directors thread, Bond Villain, Things You Want To Return, Things You Don't Want To Return, and that's just on the first page of the section. Plenty of threads for all varying types of discussion regarding the future.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I agree with you in general, @Creasy47. But it has not worked and I'm simply saying we all need to remind people, not just mods, at this point. And thank you for giving Bond thread titles - that is helpful. :)
  • Posts: 6,601
    Well said, bit what unnecessary huzzle, with so many threads here, that are REALLY ...

    Like I said, we shouldnt need to beg. Its the members forum after all.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Well said, bit what unnecessary huzzle, with so many threads here, that are REALLY ...

    Like I said, we shouldnt need to beg. Its the members forum after all.

    Then questioning what existing threads could be used is irrelevant if providing a list didn't matter.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Please take the future B26 discussion to the threads @Creasy47 listed. A Bond 26 thread will undoubtedly reach 500 pages before Bond 25 is even released, so there's no sense in making one for a while.

    Back on topic.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    jamesdut wrote: »
    Why not open a discussion for bond 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 ..... You lot all know eon don't start any kind of pre planning on the next bond film until the current one has come out. The days of those have gone. Plus this debate is basically you lot arguing about things not even related to bond 25. I'm sick of coming onto this site and scrolling through pages and pages of nothing to do with the subject matter of bond 25. Get a grip people and don't start debating what I've just wrote as that will add more pointless pages.

    No one forces you to come on this site
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    @Jake24, can you pin the list of the offtopic threads to the first page? That may be helpful for members.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    @Jake24, can you pin the list of the offtopic threads to the first page? That may be helpful for members.
    Absolutely.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    Wanting a Bond#26 thread when Bond#25 hasn't even started filming yet is jumping the Ack-Ack gun. If we have a thread for Bond#26, then what about Bond#27, Bond#28, Bond#29 etc... @Germanlady, aren't you the one that doesn't like talking about the next Bond actor? Why is this different? Doesn't it make to wait until Bond#25 is out of the way, before turning attention to Bond#26?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    In the meanwhile, if we get some B25 actor or plot rumours from decent sources (rather than physical trainers or redditers),
    ... Assuming and hoping that @bondjames is speaking about this "physical trainer" (we're actually called Personal Trainers, or Fitness Specialists), and I hope he is-- coz right now, I'm swooning and blushing...!

    I saw that my info page at the Club had spiked!!

    Why, @bondjames... are you trolling me? First time I've been trolled. It's kinda... neat...

    If you need any more info on who I am, please pop by The Adelaide Club-- I'll give you a free session.

    If you'd like to discuss my writing, please speak with my managers-- you can look up their contact info on imdbpro.

    As for plot rumours for B25?? If you are talking about this Fitness Specialist, I don't think I've ever given any?... and I don't pretend to know any either. The only things I've ever repeated on here is via @ColonelSun. But, you know that, silly... If you'd like to chat with himself, please feel free to reach out.

    If you'd like an autograph from the Colonel, He has paypal set up.

    And lastly, since I'm a novice to all this trolling, if you want a late night booty call, you'll just hafta ask permission from my wife, and I'll see what mood I'm in.

    Thanks for thinking of me, bondjames-- whomever you may be!

    Sincerely,

    Peter Sheldrick

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2018 Posts: 23,883
    @peter, what in heaven's name are you talking about? I'm referring to Mark Strong's physical trainer posting a photo of him and that becoming a topic of conversation here about him possibly being in B25. I don't give it much credence quite frankly.

    Look, I'm terribly sorry if you thought I was trolling you but your remarks seem to be a bit negative and attack oriented. Quite unecessary. I have never trolled anyone on this site. It's not my style.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    jake24 wrote: »
    @Jake24, can you pin the list of the offtopic threads to the first page? That may be helpful for members.
    Absolutely.

    Thanks! Because now we can at least say simply, "See the list of off topic threads on the first page of this thread" - that really should help.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    oh... darn... no... no... that's fine... I was just... no... i wasn't being negative, I just really, really wanted a... ah forget about it.

    (kick sand, wanders away-- he'll always be in my heart...)
  • Posts: 6,601
    jake24 wrote: »
    Please take the future B26 discussion to the threads @Creasy47 listed. A Bond 26 thread will undoubtedly reach 500 pages before Bond 25 is even released, so there's no sense in making one for a while.

    Back on topic.

    A thread that will reach 500 pages in a short time irrelevant? Oh well , logic rules.

    @major. I have nothing against the next actors thread as the next one will come.

    To me it still seems, the majority wants a 26 thread and dont get it.
    Its absolutely stupid to say, if you have 26, why nor 27,28 etc. what has that to do with one another?
  • Posts: 6,601
    Wanting a Bond#26 thread when Bond#25 hasn't even started filming yet is jumping the Ack-Ack gun. If we have a thread for Bond#26, then what about Bond#27, Bond#28, Bond#29 etc... @Germanlady, aren't you the one that doesn't like talking about the next Bond actor? Why is this different? Doesn't it make to wait until Bond#25 is out of the way, before turning attention to Bond#26?

    Ja, why? Because some people feel the need to talk 26 - in the 25 thread. That easy. Whats not to understand?
  • edited June 2018 Posts: 6,601
    Benny wrote: »
    I'll re-open this as requested by @jake24 ,however it is for the sole purpose of discussing Bond 25 production.

    August 15. just a reminder.

    I wanted to give 36 discussions a home - not gonna happen. So its up to you where to take them. Just not here - as ordered by the mod.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    And we've already noted that it wasn't the best idea to open that thread so early either, hence our course correction this time around. This thread is for Bond 25, the others I've listed can currently be used for Bond 26, and a proper Bond 26 thread will be opened when the time comes.
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