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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I'd rather have another Pierce movie. None of these rumors sound good to me.
    You and me both.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I’ll worry if they confirm David Arnold over Daniel Pemberton.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I hear the mental health/depression angle was key to Boyle’s pitch.
    Murdock wrote: »
    Ugh great, more angsty melodrama to ensue.
    Depends on how you interpret the rumour. Is it Bond who gets depressed, or the audience?

    If Bond is depressed, then the audience will be too. Stamper find them.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited July 2018 Posts: 14,539
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'd rather have another Pierce movie. None of these rumors sound good to me.
    You and me both.
    Really? Whishaw, Strong and/or Cumberbatch doesn't sound good?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I'll take Whishaw, the others? nah.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Never liked Whishaw’s Q. He’d have been better off as Q’s assistant or something like that, but not Q. Can’t say I like Naomie Harris as Moneypenny since the character is clearly tailored to be a field agent rather than a sweet secretary. Fiennes as M is good, however. If only they wouldn’t give him a role where he doubts Bond’s every move.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I think it was clear towards the end of Spectre that M had begun to trust Bond's judgement. In Rules cafe; the safe house. I think (hope) we won't get any of that doubt with the next film.
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    The biggest thing that worries me out of these rumors in the London-centric shooting. One of my favorite aspects of Bond films are the exotic & beautiful locations. I’ll be very let down if the whole film takes place in London. I do hope this isn’t the case.
    I too love the exotic locations in Bond films. However, if done right, London itself could be much of an exotic and thrilling location. I´m not counting SF and SP, because the city wasn´t used very cleverly in those films.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Never liked Whishaw’s Q. He’d have been better off as Q’s assistant or something like that, but not Q. Can’t say I like Naomie Harris as Moneypenny since the character is clearly tailored to be a field agent rather than a sweet secretary. Fiennes as M is good, however. If only they wouldn’t give him a role where he doubts Bond’s every move.

    +1
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Never liked Whishaw’s Q. He’d have been better off as Q’s assistant or something like that, but not Q. Can’t say I like Naomie Harris as Moneypenny since the character is clearly tailored to be a field agent rather than a sweet secretary. Fiennes as M is good, however. If only they wouldn’t give him a role where he doubts Bond’s every move.
    doubleoego wrote: »
    +1

    +2. As for Cumberbatch, he's a fine actor but he's excessively overrated and I don't particularly like him. Him being in the movie would not be a disgrace like Scott was in SPECTRE, but I'd be better without him.
    TR007 wrote: »
    I really don't consider Jolie or Lily as actors, they're just celebrities really. This is Brosnan era stunt casting if you ask me.

    Same. They are very poor and uninspired choices, I'm sure Boyle can do better than that.

    On a side note, I recently watched 28 days later for the first time and really enjoyed it. In my opinion Boyle directed Harris better than Mendes did in his Bond outings. I think @ClarkDevlin nailed the point, she's more suited to field work than being behind the desk, contrary to what Mendes tried to transmit with Skyfall.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    There is something lacking in Harris' Moneypenny. Something I can't quite put my finger on. Is it simply a case of poor acting? Or maybe it's just that close, hands-on flirting with Bond that's missing.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    I can't believe people are taking these rumors seriously. Cashley is a clown.
  • edited July 2018 Posts: 9,842
    I can't believe people are taking these rumors seriously. Cashley is a clown.

    I will say this it is interesting the moment Cashey posts something panchitopistols is picking up the rumor and saying it’s gold.... fascinating ....

    Anyways on the subject of Bond 25 hopefully we will know things soon and hopefully it’s nowhere near the bs. Cashey is selling
  • edited July 2018 Posts: 1,661
    I reckon Bond will be depressed, washed-up, out of the service. Perhaps Brexit resulted in most of the closure of the 00 Division and Bond has no purpose in his life. He splits up from Madeleine Swann. "She was no swan," Bond remarks. "More like a duck."

    Bond has done some 'work for hire' missions for dubious foreign agencies, including a brief job for the CIA but most of the time he spends at some beach villa, doing landscape paintings and pondering if the earlier Bond films were better than the modern ones.

    He hears the news that Blofeld had a daughter - Fifi Blofeld! Fifi - played by Angelina Jolie - takes over at SPECTRE! M visits Bond and asks him to help stop Fifi. Bond (once he stops laughing over her name) reluctantly agrees but on the condition this is his final ever mission. Bond plans to retire prior to the end credits.

    The film is shot on location in London, London... and London.

    Ed Sheeran was going to do the main theme but one million people petitioned online to stop him getting the gig, and EON saw sense.











  • edited July 2018 Posts: 5,767
    Haha, brilliant, @fanbond123!!! :-))



    QBranch wrote: »
    There is something lacking in Harris' Moneypenny. Something I can't quite put my finger on. Is it simply a case of poor acting? Or maybe it's just that close, hands-on flirting with Bond that's missing.
    Poor directing IMO. Just watch her in 28 Days later, or Miami Vice, she´s got a lot of presence in those films.

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Harris's acting is by no means the problem (see Moonlight). But I agree, it's the direction and poor scripts that bring her down.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Thirded. There's no way Harris is a bad actress. I mean, if you believe she is, you're kidding yourself.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2018 Posts: 15,713
    Jim Jarmusch begins filming a Zombie movie starring Adam Driver, Bill Murray, Selena Gomez, And Chloë Sevigny. Daniel Craig and Rosie Perez are also expected to join.

    https://thefilmstage.com/news/jim-jarmusch-in-now-filming-a-zombie-movie-starring-adam-driver-bill-murray-selena-gomez-and-chloe-sevigny/
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Harris's acting is by no means the problem (see Moonlight). But I agree, it's the direction and poor scripts that bring her down.

    This. It's so jarring seeing her acting in SP versus Moonlight. A night and day difference, much like Waltz in SP versus Inglourious Basterds.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Yeah, that's it - poor direction. I suppose I should have said that, as I know Harris is a decent actress in general (haven't seen her in much though, TBH).
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    I can't believe people are taking these rumors seriously. Cashley is a clown.

    I will say this it is interesting the moment Cashey posts something panchitopistols is picking up the rumor and saying it’s gold.... fascinating ....

    Anyways on the subject of Bond 25 hopefully we will know things soon and hopefully it’s nowhere near the bs. Cashey is selling

    I will say this it is interesting the day after we speculate something CashleyPersia says he's got friends in the industry who just revealed next Bond movie will do the very thing we speculated (e.g. Logan being an inspiration for Bond 25)
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Not agreeing with anyone here regarding Harris. I like her a lot as Moneypenny and think she and Craig have wonderful chemistry.

    But go on and be a bunch of negative nancies. :P
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Not agreeing with anyone here regarding Harris. I like her a lot as Moneypenny and think she and Craig have wonderful chemistry.

    But go on and be a bunch of negative nancies. :P
    I actually loved her in SF (as well as her dynamic with Craig). But that totally evaporated in SP.

    That said, I would be very disappointed of she didn't return in B25, provided she has good material to work with. Boyle had directed her before, so I'm not too worried about that.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Not agreeing with anyone here regarding Harris. I like her a lot as Moneypenny and think she and Craig have wonderful chemistry.

    But go on and be a bunch of negative nancies. :P

    There is something horribly efficient about you.
    +2
    I loved her in Skyfall (shaving scene anyone?)
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2018 Posts: 4,508
    Mabey my earlier sugestion that Debbie Mcwilliams should not work on Bond 25. QOS having second one (casting department). We get Atterton, extra Bondgirl and Taxi driver who at something.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Not agreeing with anyone here regarding Harris. I like her a lot as Moneypenny and think she and Craig have wonderful chemistry.
    But go on and be a bunch of negative nancies. :P
    I realize you're joking, but just for the record, I wouldn't consider myself being negative towards Harris. I don't want to see her (or any other MI6 actor) replaced. However:
    jake24 wrote: »
    I actually loved her in SF (as well as her dynamic with Craig). But that totally evaporated in SP.
    This is what I'm talking about. Her performance in SP was a step down from SF. She had more energy, more spark the first time around.

    The shaving scene was great, and flirting with Bond at MI6. Her stand out moment in SP was the birthday joke to M.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Never liked Whishaw’s Q. He’d have been better off as Q’s assistant or something like that, but not Q. Can’t say I like Naomie Harris as Moneypenny since the character is clearly tailored to be a field agent rather than a sweet secretary. Fiennes as M is good, however. If only they wouldn’t give him a role where he doubts Bond’s every move.

    +1

    I totally disagree.

    Whishaw has been the MVP of the most recent Bond films. In fact, I much prefer his performance in many respects to that of Desmond's.

    The original Q was iconic but Whishaw has been on scene-stealing form and I honestly can't wait to see him in Bond 25. I want him to continue in the role for years to come. In fact, I'm a little nervous that they'll re-cast the part once Daniel leaves. I want Whishaw to play the role for years to come.

    Ben Whishaw is also a terrific actor who completely disappears into each role he plays. I think he's more of the most talented and hardest working actors in the UK currently. He was rather good in A Very English Scandal (though Hugh Grant was the highlight in that for me).

    Also, I think Harris fits the Moneypenny role effortlessly. Her chemistry with Craig is terrific and I genuinely anticipated her scenes with Bond in both SF and SP.
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Mabey my earlier sugestion that Debbie Mcwilliams should not work on Bond 25. QOS having second one and we get Atterton, extra Bondgirl and Taxi driver who at something.

    Excuse me?

    Though I think you may be on to something (if I understand your post correctly). McWilliams is an Eon staffer, Danny Boyle often uses Gail Stevens as his his casting director. She also happens to be his ex-wife! I imagine they have a good relationship still as she's cast every one of his films.....
  • Posts: 4,619
    Why are people here surprised (or pretending to be surprised) every time we get a rumour suggesting BOND 25 won't be a traditional Bond film? Danny Boyle is directing it. OF COURSE it won't be a traditional Bond film!
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Back after a hiatus!

    From what I can gather, Mark Strong is in the film. It looks like his trainer deleted that video. I know some people suggested it was Stanley Tucci, but if you watch previous videos from the trainer he only specifically trains Mark Strong.

    110% Mark Strong in the video and the fact that it’s been deleted means that maybe he wasn’t allowed to give that information up?

    I also read an article about Craig visiting the CIA. What’s interesting is the director said they showed Craig how the CIA is more about espionage vs killing and gun fights.

    One aspect missing from Craig’s films, (besides CR & QOS), was the espionage. M repeatedly told 007 that he’s an assassin and we heard Bond tell Madeline that he kills people for a living.

    I love Craig but I seriously hope they come up with a great plot. He needs to do some REAL spy work this time, not just be an assassin. He is now a seasoned veteran and I am hoping for a crazy plot.

    Maybe we open with a wedding scene. Almost everyone dies. Bond has to track down whoever killed Swann and everyone else?
    He was that close to a normal life and then bam he’s back into the service and 007.

    Just something interesting. I don’t see them just going with a new plot and a typical Bond mission. I definitely see Madeline being in the film. Something has to draw him back to the service for one last mission!

    I’m more worried about the ending they really need to do Dan some justice.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited July 2018 Posts: 14,539
    I want him to continue in the role for years to come. In fact, I'm a little nervous that they'll re-cast the part once Daniel leaves. I want Whishaw to play the role for years to come.
    Same here. I would like to see him still playing the role as an older man, and come full circle with Desmond's Q. Love how his character was tweaked for SP.
    I also read an article about Craig visiting the CIA. What’s interesting is the director said they showed Craig how the CIA is more about espionage vs killing and gun fights.

    One aspect missing from Craig’s films, (besides CR & QOS), was the espionage. M repeatedly told 007 that he’s an assassin and we heard Bond tell Madeline that he kills people for a living.

    I love Craig but I seriously hope they come up with a great plot. He needs to do some REAL spy work this time, not just be an assassin. He is now a seasoned veteran and I am hoping for a crazy plot.
    Agree with all this - and welcome back!
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