No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 11,425
    Seydoux was lame casting. I never found her very exciting and she has zero chemistry with Craig. Hopeless.

  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited August 2018 Posts: 3,157
    Getafix wrote: »
    Seydoux was lame casting. I never found her very exciting and she has zero chemistry with Craig. Hopeless.

    Agreed, I wish they cast someone else who had chemistry with Craig (too bad because Seydoux is very hot). The bad script didn't help either, but we all know giving the Scooby gang the spotlight was more important than using the screentime to develop the love relationship.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited August 2018 Posts: 8,395
    peter wrote: »
    This has been said time and again: the general audience won't even remember Maddy. Period.

    Yes, SP is pretty forgettable, but it seemed as if they were embracing continuity by tying all the films together. It will seem strange to end Craig's run with something standalone, not saying it can't/won't happen, just that it would be jarring. Then again, ever since they made the decision for Quantum to be a direct sequel, they have only created problems for themselves IMO.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    BT3366 wrote: »
    Am I alone in not being particularly impressed with either of those girls? Those boho chic photos especially look offputting. And can they actually act, because enough people here complained about Lea Seydoux's performance and she is an established actress.

    Fine for a background or brief role, but a lead role seems like a stretch.

    With you 100% on this.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    Getafix wrote: »
    Seydoux was lame casting. I never found her very exciting and she has zero chemistry with Craig. Hopeless.

    I agree 100% , no chemistry

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,395
    Maybe they could do it like Bond and Madders are living together, and he is called out on one last mission and deep in a midlife crisis, he decides to sow a few last wild Oates while he's at it. Sort of reliving the glory days.
  • Posts: 11,425
    Walecs wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Seydoux was lame casting. I never found her very exciting and she has zero chemistry with Craig. Hopeless.

    Agreed, I wish they cast someone else who had chemistry with Craig (too bad because Seydoux is very hot). The bad script didn't help either, but we all know giving the Scooby gamg the spotlight was more important than using the screentime to develop the love relationship.

    SP is such a long film they easily could have done both. Bad writing and direction.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    CR and QOS should have remained the only Bond films to be connected. Then go back to standalone films. They had the right idea with SF and it paid off. If SP had been standalone, the idea of a standalone Bond 25 wouldn't sound so jarring.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    peter wrote: »
    This has been said time and again: the general audience won't even remember Maddy. Period.

    Yes, SP is pretty forgettable, but it seemed as if they were embracing continuity by tying all the films together. It will seem strange to end Craig's run with something standalone, not saying it can't/won't happen, just that it would be jarring. Then again, ever since they made the decision for Quantum to be a direct sequel, they have only created problems for themselves IMO.

    I think it'll be jarring to you, or super-informed Bond fans who cared about this relationship.

    Personally I didn't like them as a couple, the chemistry just wasn't there. Once again, Mendes was tone-deaf and forcing a square-peg into a round hole.

    So I think for Bond fans like myself, it won't be jarring at all.

    And it won't be jarring for the general audience, coz they will not remember the Bond girl from four years before.

    This will be a standalone with no Blofeld or Maddy, and 95% of the viewers won't care.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    peter wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    This has been said time and again: the general audience won't even remember Maddy. Period.

    Yes, SP is pretty forgettable, but it seemed as if they were embracing continuity by tying all the films together. It will seem strange to end Craig's run with something standalone, not saying it can't/won't happen, just that it would be jarring. Then again, ever since they made the decision for Quantum to be a direct sequel, they have only created problems for themselves IMO.

    I think it'll be jarring to you, or super-informed Bond fans who cared about this relationship.

    Personally I didn't like them as a couple, the chemistry just wasn't there. Once again, Mendes was tone-deaf and forcing a square-peg into a round hole.

    So I think for Bond fans like myself, it won't be jarring at all.

    And it won't be jarring for the general audience, coz they will not remember the Bond girl from four years before.

    This will be a standalone with no Blofeld or Maddy, and 95% of the viewers won't care.

    God I hope you're right.
  • Posts: 11,425
    Is this too retro to feature in a Bond film?

  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    Getafix wrote: »
    Is this too retro to feature in a Bond film?


    I think anything like that, that is done for real, would be welcome in any Bond film
  • Posts: 1,548
    Just seen mission impossible fall out. Best action film in a long time. Bond 25 has a hard act to follow. Kudos to Cruise for his stunt work.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    Craig had zero chemistry with women in QoS too... and I’ve liked all the women they’ve cast including Sedoux (we’ll save Gemma who I thought was terrible on several levels). It’s a writing and directing issue more than a casting issue
  • Posts: 11,425
    Gemma Arterton was poorly used. I think she’s actually a fairly decent actress and obviously looks great but the character, dialogue and wardrobe were completely absurd. What could have been a high point in a film I actually rather like is in fact one of the most cringeworthy sequences.

    Eva Green remains hands down the best Bond girl of the Craig era. I think she works her socks off in CR.

  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    I had absolutely no problem with the female actors, nor their characters, in any of the Craig films, up to and including Estrella and Lucia Sciarra.

    Seydoux was and remains the weak link, not necessarily as a character, but certainly her pouty portrayal was one dimensional in her first half. I actually found her more relaxed and believable once they arrive at Blofeld’s HQ, until the end of the film.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
    Posts: 260
    [quote="Getafix;905472"

    Eva Green remains hands down the best Bond girl of the Craig era. I think she works her socks off in CR.

    [/quote]

    Yep.
  • Posts: 17,753
    Getafix wrote: »
    Eva Green remains hands down the best Bond girl of the Craig era. I think she works her socks off in CR.

    She and Olga!
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    Yes, can’t think of anyone who tops Eva from any era. The only who matches up against her for me isnt in Bond, it’s MI with Rebecca Ferguson. It will be interesting to see who Boyle picks for the female lead for B25...
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    Eva Green is the undoubted stand out of the Craig era, Caterina Murino was also good.

    Although I liked Olga and Bérénice Marlohe, Gemma is a fine actress and definitely looks great but must agree a little wasted in QOS.

    Seydoux seemed like smart casting at the time but the zero chemistry between her and Craig was a real turn off.

    Hopefully we'll get some much more interesting actresses this time round who have chemistry with Craig and of course look great.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    It seems pretty obvious to me. The only solution is to introduce Vesper's twin sister, Vespa, played by none other than Eva Green.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Getafix wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Seydoux was lame casting. I never found her very exciting and she has zero chemistry with Craig. Hopeless.

    Agreed, I wish they cast someone else who had chemistry with Craig (too bad because Seydoux is very hot). The bad script didn't help either, but we all know giving the Scooby gan the spotlight was more important than using the screentime to develop the love relationship.

    SP is such a long film they easily could have done both. Bad writing and direction.

    Yeah, but then again it's not even a matter of screentime. Forster was able to create likeable protagonists and threatening antagonists in under two hours, Mendes couldn't do it in 2+ hours.
  • Posts: 15,114
    So, maybe this protege story is true. ;)

    Bond trains Miss Fields’ sister.

    He couldn’t save Strawberry, so Rasperry saves him instead. There’s your #MeToo era Bond movie. ;)
    But what I want to know is what happened to Madeline. They will have to say something about that.
    What did happen with Tiffany Case? Melina Havelock? Natalya Simonova? Etc? ;)

    Well, if we might turn to the "tight continuity" argument, I'd say Madeleine found out blue is her warmest colour. :))

    There are mentions of previous Bond girls in the novel sometimes. I'd like to see it in the movies.
  • Posts: 787
    Remington wrote: »
    CR and QOS should have remained the only Bond films to be connected. Then go back to standalone films. They had the right idea with SF and it paid off. If SP had been standalone, the idea of a standalone Bond 25 wouldn't sound so jarring.

    I've said it before: there are a lot of things that I really liked about SP, but narratively they sure backed themselves into a hell of a corner. I suspect, as others have said here, that the best answer might just be to selectively forget much of what's come before and simply choose whatever aspects of the continuity are convenient.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited August 2018 Posts: 3,126
    Hannah Arterton would be a interesting addition and a very good addition at that
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    No siblings, please. I agree Eva Green is a standout, throughout the entire history of the films, actually. I liked Lea and had no problem with her in Spectre.

    So new new? Just the Maori henchmen casting call still ...
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    No siblings, please. I agree Eva Green is a standout, throughout the entire history of the films, actually. I liked Lea and had no problem with her in Spectre.

    So new new? Just the Maori henchmen casting call still ...
    Just some tabloid bogus, nothing substantial as of yet.
  • Posts: 9,846
    3 months and 3 weeks till the beginning of filming and of course till we get the title
  • Posts: 19,339
    Risico007 wrote: »
    3 months and 3 weeks till the beginning of filming and of course till we get the title

    Getting closer.
  • Posts: 16,153
    Makes me wonder if Boyle already has his own ideas regarding the title, or if it's going to be a very last minute decision like, QoS and SF. With SP my feeling is that title was possibly considered fairly early on in the scripting process once it was decided to revive S.p.e.c.t.r.e..
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