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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    JET007 wrote: »
    https://facebook.com/jamesbondradio/photos/a.1453042524932511/2264918447078244/?type=3&theater

    A ray of positivity!
    If Hodge really was re-writing the script by P&W, then why weren't they mentioned in the official announcement in May? This rumour smells fishy.

    And why are they looking for another writer now?

    To polish the script they’ve been crueing and casting for....

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited August 2018 Posts: 6,275
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Sounds like the Hodge script is being tossed aside and they don’t want to return to P&W as they are looking for a writer-director to replace Boyle https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-release-date-danny-boyle-1202915388/

    "While the production and release date may be moving, one thing is for certain, and that is that Craig won’t be hanging up Bond’s signature Walther PPK anytime soon. When the announcement was made on the official 007 Twitter handle that Boyle would be leaving, the statement was not only attributed to Broccoli and Wilson. Craig, who has been a producer on the franchise since “Spectre,” also provided a quote."

    It seems more and more likely the reason they are clinging to Craig this much is that they have already decided to sell the franchsie (or at least retire from it) after Craig is gone. MGW will probably exit the franchise after Bond 25 anyway because of his age, and it's entirely reasonable to believe that Barbara Broccoli has no interest in producing future Bond movies without Craig.

    This is a new dark age, but remember, the night is darkest just before the dawn. Bond will rise again.

    Or the exact opposite.

    Babs could feel like it is her responsibility to carry on the torch from her father, and to pass it on to her children, and MGW's.

    There is no evidence of Eon selling, beyond wishful thinking. There is evidence that Eon keeps a tight rein on its IP, which frankly is why Boyle is gone.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    peter wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    JET007 wrote: »
    https://facebook.com/jamesbondradio/photos/a.1453042524932511/2264918447078244/?type=3&theater

    A ray of positivity!
    If Hodge really was re-writing the script by P&W, then why weren't they mentioned in the official announcement in May? This rumour smells fishy.

    And why are they looking for another writer now?

    To polish the script they’ve been crueing and casting for....

    Hope you’re right, Peter!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,604
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    This is really the worse case scenario.

    Delaying the film by possibly a year and releasing in 2020 is shocking. Heads should really roll for this.

    I have zero enthusiasm for another Daniel Craig film, especially one that coems five years after the release of SP. I'm a diehard Bond fan as well, so just imagine what general audiences are thinking.

    Ditch Craig and reboot.

    Daniel Craig is a complete nobody in the Hollywood system. He's hardly employable. Why are Eon so desperately hanging on to him? He's done.
    Replacing Craig is not enough. A new, fresh approach to producing Bond films is needed, with a new writer. How excited would you be about the prospect of a Bond film starring a new actor, but written by P&W?

    I agree with these entirely. As I've said before, new people is a slight risk that EON needs now! Put the slightly familiar things in there, but have different voices put their stamp on it.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    echo wrote: »
    There is no evidence of Eon selling, beyond wishful thinking.
    For the umpteenth time: MI6-HQ has confirmed last year that the rumour about Barbara Broccoli and MGW thinking about selling the franchise after BOND 25 is more than baseless speculation.

  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    QQ7 wrote: »
    The whole thing is taking too bloody long, SF should have been Craig's high end note.
    Just my two cents.

    Hindsight is 20/20 but they have mucked up Craig’s tenure. His third film should have ended the CR/ QOS trilogy and his fourth film should have been the retirement angle skyfall style film. We should have been getting skyfall now, it’s the film we need now, as the future of bond seems uncertain
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,275
    Calliope wrote: »
    THR's now saying it will be pushed back -- and that was a possibility even before Boyle left.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/james-bond-25-miss-november-2019-release-date-1137104

    This seems to indicate that Hodge was rewriting P&W's script. Curiouser and curiouser.
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    Posts: 1,329
    Funny how the infantile amongst us, seem to think that relieving DC of his Walther means we somehow get a new Bond and whole new story in the same time we would get a slightly delayed DC film.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,275
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    There is no evidence of Eon selling, beyond wishful thinking.
    For the umpteenth time: MI6-HQ has confirmed last year that the rumour about Barbara Broccoli and MGW thinking about selling the franchise after BOND 25 is more than baseless speculation.

    Link?
  • GetCarterGetCarter
    Posts: 386
    bondjames wrote: »
    Bottom line is they are measured on the results. Of late, they have been less than pleasing, at least to me.

    We were promised a Boyle directed film with a Hodge script for 2019. That's 4 years after the previous film. Why? The lead actor and the producers said they needed a break. The lead actor then decided to return, by his own admission, in May (or thereabouts) of 2017. He said he wanted to go out on a 'high'. Many here assumed they had a plan at that point. Why would he come back and make such a public boastful announcement if there was no plan, we surmised? There must be a plan.

    We then realized that they didn't have one. Directors who they were speaking with for over a year were tossed after his return and they tried to woo names like Villeneuve. That failed. They then tossed out a script by their earlier announced 'go to' team at a late stage. Why? I have no idea, but it appears it's though it's because they couldn't find a director to appease the lead actor. The only one who they could get to do it that satisfied him was Boyle (even though he had expressed doubts about this kind of project before), due to his great 'creative vision' or 'idea'. So they threw everything away to wait for his writer to get something together. Then they made the pitch to the distributor and got it locked. Now this. Why? Who knows really, but from what we're reading, the reasons are somewhat pathetic.

    It was Craig who wanted Boyle according to Baz. It was Craig, by his own admission, who wanted them to wait for Mendes. We know the man was a reluctant and spent force after SF (he should have left on a 'high'). It was Craig, by his own admission, who wanted to inject more 'Moore' (as he called it) into SP. This resulted (imho) in one of the worst performances by a Bond actor on film. It was Craig, again by his own admission, who needed a break. It was EON who didn't clean up his 'wrist slash' comments, that had unfettered play in the media for 2 years, day in, day out and created a narrative which lingers to this day while he's the lead.

    I'm sure they're trying their best, but it's not good enough. They can certainly do better. There's no doubt about that. Especially after the SP fiasco, a more hands on and controlled approach was necessary for this film. You don't go to Boyle if you want that.

    As I said, I measure on results. Get the film out on time. Make sure it's good. If the actor gives you any more demands at this point, sack him and get on with it.

    Excellent post.

  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,604
    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s time for a unknown to take over the franchise. If it’s a 5 year wait we’re looking at, keep Ralph Fiennes as M, and Ben Whislaw as Q and reboot it. They have a lot of material to look at, not just “original” screenplays by Purvis and Wade.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    New writer - Well, I expected someone to come on board to polish Hodge's script. Of course Hodge is gone with Boyle. I'm not panicking over the news on the writer. Slight delays doesn't bother me, either. I think this will get smoothed out and progress continue this fall. So many dire predictions flying around everywhere (not just here).
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
    Posts: 2,541
    BREAKING: https://www.archivo007.com/index.php/noticias/bond-25/2696-exclusiva-reunion-de-emergencia-24-a

    This Friday, August 24th, there will be an emergency meeting with the film crew in London.

    At this meeting, it will be announced when the rehearsals will resume (scheduled for September the 3rd) or filming will resume (scheduled for December the 3rd).

    A date or a postponement could be announced.

    ***

    Russian television REN TV also echoes the news and adds an interesting detail: the actor and former MMA fighter (mixed martial arts), Oleg Taktarov, would have made a test a month ago for a villain role.

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,179
    This film is doomed, because I said so.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Probably the announcement for a delay.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Taktarov 14:20

  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    How soon will news from the emergency meeting likely reach the media?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    My question is why would Eon/Boyle start screen-testing Russian actors if they were unhappy with the so called "modern-day cold war" story? None of this makes remote sense.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited August 2018 Posts: 12,462
    It’s the truth. Something isn’t adding up. Perhaps the script had not yet been finished and they couldn’t come to an agreement about something down the road?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,275
    The way people are going on and on here:

    Barbara Broccoli Productions presents

    Daniel Craig
    as
    Barbara Broccoli's James Bond 007
    in
    The Intellectual Property of a Lady

    Starring
    Rachel Weisz
    Ella Loudon
    and introducing fetus Craig

    Cameo by Michael G. Wilson (maybe)

    Written by Barbara Broccoli
    Additional material by Daniel Craig

    Produced by Barbara Broccoli

    Directed by Barbara Broccoli
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,740
    jake24 wrote: »
    My question is why would Eon/Boyle start screen-testing Russian actors if they were unhappy with the so called "modern-day cold war" story? None of this makes remote sense.

    It really doesn't. There is most likely something more that hasn't been leaked to the media…or?
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited August 2018 Posts: 4,408
    BREAKING: Bond 25 could still make 2019 release date and Jean-Marc Vallee has been approuched to direct

    https://deadline.com/2018/08/bond-25-2019-release-date-jean-marc-vallee-david-mackenzie-yann-demange-daniel-craig-1202451415/

    Please be true.

    Jean-Marc Vallee may be too busy. But David Mackenzie and Yann Demange could accept.

    Personally, I think Vallee is a far more exciting name than Boyle and much better suited to Craig's era. He could even bring in the brilliant Gillian Flynn to retool the script.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    While it is far less sexy based on everything I can bet a million fake dollars the pressure just got to Boyle and if I am right they will likely do the same idea but bring in a new director to put his (or her) spin on the material and we will still get the film in November
  • RC7RC7
    edited August 2018 Posts: 10,512
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    My question is why would Eon/Boyle start screen-testing Russian actors if they were unhappy with the so called "modern-day cold war" story? None of this makes remote sense.

    It really doesn't. There is most likely something more that hasn't been leaked to the media…or?

    Precisely. But it’s not as fun for the clowns on here to reign it in when they can revel in going full on psycho for a bit. Who cares about detail? KILL CRAIG! KILL HIM! KILL HIM IN THE FACE!
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,462
    I'm not usually a very entitled person, but I firmly believe this when I say it about this whole fiasco: US BOND FANS DESERVE BETTER.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Two other sugestions

    Mike Newell (English)
    https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0001565



    Michaël R. Roskam (Belgium)
    https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1742427





  • ShakenNotStirredShakenNotStirred
    Posts: 1,397
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    BREAKING: Bond 25 could still make 2019 release date and Jean-Marc Vallee has been approuched to direct

    https://deadline.com/2018/08/bond-25-2019-release-date-jean-marc-vallee-david-mackenzie-yann-demange-daniel-craig-1202451415/

    Please be true.

    Jean-Marc Vallee may be too busy. But David Mackenzie and Yann Demange could accept.

    Crossing fingers. 60 days to find a director? Plenty of time, me-thinks. :)
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    Star Wars, Star Trek, super hero fans... maybe. But I think that no one ever really cared about us - Bond fans, not even EON. At least that's my impression.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    BREAKING: Bond 25 could still make 2019 release date and Jean-Marc Vallee has been approuched to direct

    https://deadline.com/2018/08/bond-25-2019-release-date-jean-marc-vallee-david-mackenzie-yann-demange-daniel-craig-1202451415/

    Please be true.

    Jean-Marc Vallee may be too busy. But David Mackenzie and Yann Demange could accept.
    Damn. We got barely any news for months and now there is a new twist nearly every hour! I have completely stopped looking forward to Bond 25, but I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy all these twists since Boyle departed.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,889
    So. Much. News. To. Process.
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