No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    OK, @jake24. I thought my post on the Bond themes were be a nice break. I'll delete it, no worries, and post it elsewhere. Off topic lives here enough without my assists.
  • RC7RC7
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    Let's live in the past. Always better there, eh?
    I am a fan of the older Bond films, and all of Fleming's writings.
    I like living in the present, too, and I do look forward to the future.
    I sleep well at night. I believe the Bond series will continue.

    BUT ... Is Barbara not making pasta?! OMG! She will never be the same as her unique father. Sad. She is her own person, who has fought to provide excellence, taken risks, and battle misogyny at the same time, all along the way. She is human, a proven successful executive, someone Cubby did trust, and we all mourn the lack of spaghetti making. She must not be fully engaged in her work any more. Sad. I give up.

    Ha ha, well said. I’ve been lucky enough to meet Barbara (albeit briefly) and she’s a very smart, completely charming and incredibly witty woman. The lack of respect I see from Bond fans is quite disgusting Imo.
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    Remember the story of him cooking a meal for the whole acst and crew. Spaghetti wasn't it? Has Barbara ever done something like that? Would she?

    I don't think you'd find any producer doing that these days. I can't see it being usual back then, either.

    Exactly, he was a one-off like Cruise is in the acting sphere. Going that extra mile.

    The best we can hope for now is someone with a true passion for this type of series.

    Although some here maybe have reason to doubt it, Babs & Co might have all the passion needed to continue producing Bond films. If they someday decide to sell out, we can only hope that those who end up getting Bond will do the series good. There's no guarantee of that.
    Remember the story of him cooking a meal for the whole acst and crew. Spaghetti wasn't it? Has Barbara ever done something like that? Would she?

    I don't think you'd find any producer doing that these days. I can't see it being usual back then, either.

    Barb would just order some pizzas. Oh my, the decline!

    Hahahaha! :))
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited August 2018 Posts: 8,392
    I do look forward to the future.

    You and me both. I look forward to the point when we can inject a true measure of freshness back into this series of films. I realise that Bond has 24 entries, and delivering the cookie cutter GF/YOLT template in this day and age might not wash. I understand. But what we have been getting doesn't feel like an evolution, but a departure.
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 4,619
    Anyone who thinks Barbara is incompetent is either ignorant, or thick. The films she produces may not be to everyone’s taste, that goes without saying, but in terms of satisfying the general audience and her investors, she’s consistently successful.
    Consistently satisfying her investors really isn't a big accomplishent, considering we are talking about Bond movies. It would be pretty much impossible to inadvertently produce a Bond movie that loses money. As for consistently satisfying the general audience, no she has not done that, and I think even she would admit that. Has DAD or QOS satisfied the general audience? No, people expected much more from both movies.

    And how would you describe her inability to produce a decent Bond script on time if not as incompetence? Nolan can write, direct and produce a first rate big budget movie in 2 years. Barbara Broccoli and MGW are unable to get other people to write a decent script for them in 3 years.
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    Again this Nolan talk!
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    If he comes back he should be mute, his vocal cords crushed, and his throat scared from his encounter with Bond ;possibly he would have some type of permanent neck brace that would complete his Bond Villain look and he wants another shot at 007.

    I agree, it would be more realistic. Bring back and use more often, the metal thumb nails!

    I agree too. He could have his neck blocked like Vic Cotroni (former head of the Montreal, who got permanently wounded in his wrestling career, he could not turn his head).
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    Anyone who thinks Barbara is incompetent is either ignorant, or thick. The films she produces may not be to everyone’s taste, that goes without saying, but in terms of satisfying the general audience and her investors, she’s consistently successful.
    Consistently satisfying her investors really isn't a big accomplishent, considering we are talking about Bond movies. It would be pretty much impossible to inadvertently produce a Bond movie that loses money. As for consistently satisfying the general audience, no she has not done that, and I think even she would admit that. Has DAD or QOS satisfied the general audience? No, people expected much more from both movies.

    And how would you describe her inability to produce a decent Bond script on time if not as incompetence? Nolan can write, direct and produce a first rate big budget movie in 2 years. Barbara Broccoli and MGW are unable to get other people to write a decent script for them in 3 years.

    Nolan isn't typically working within the constraints of a franchise with sixty plus years of heritage and high expectations. The one time he did was Batman, and his films were a reboot tale, and he took extensive liberties with the character. It's easy to crank out an original script.


    Although some here maybe have reason to doubt it, Babs & Co might have all the passion needed to continue producing Bond films. If they someday decide to sell out, we can only hope that those who end up getting Bond will do the series good. There's no guarantee of that.

    Even if Babs and MGW are tired, there's no reason to sell out - just hand the torch to the next generation, the same way Cubby did.
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    Nolan can write, direct and produce a first rate big budget movie in 2 years. Barbara Broccoli and MGW are unable to get other people to write a decent script for them in 3 years.

    This point is a point I would like @peter , @ColonelSun and all EON apologists to address.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    The only thing Nolan is good at saving is insomniac patients. ;)
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 17,744
    MooreFun wrote: »

    Although some here maybe have reason to doubt it, Babs & Co might have all the passion needed to continue producing Bond films. If they someday decide to sell out, we can only hope that those who end up getting Bond will do the series good. There's no guarantee of that.

    Even if Babs and MGW are tired, there's no reason to sell out - just hand the torch to the next generation, the same way Cubby did.

    Yes, they might very well do that, of course.
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    Fallout undoubtedly made them take pause on their plans for B25. MI’s a series on the ascent and Fallout will be the new standard for action films. I don’t think Craig should be doing his own crazy stunts and they don’t need non-stop action, but the action B25 will have has to be fantastic and memorable, because if it’s not, it will be directly compared to Fallout and criticized.
    I find the action in Fallout overrated. It either reminds of other films or isn´t really done well. By not really done well I don´t mean that the action isn´t spectacular, but many times it´s not filmed properly. What good is a car chase if you see nothing but the car and not the surroundings? What good is a car chase through Paris if it constantly reminds me of things from Ronin but doesn´t even get remotely there? What good is Tom Cruise flying a helicopter by himself if only one or two shots actually give me the actual feeling that he does? What good is all that done for real helicopter chase if
    the final crash is so obviousy CGI?
    Eon probably will take time to analize Fallout (not that they didn´t plan that all along). But I guess they´re intelligent enough to see there is not that much they have to follow.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I too had lost faith in Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson during the Brosnan era, but they proved their worth these last dozen years. Just my own view.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    The only thing Nolan is good at saving is insomniac patients. ;)

    Post of the Millennium.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Remington wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    The only thing Nolan is good at saving is insomniac patients. ;)

    Post of the Millennium.

    An esteemed honor! :-bd
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Remember the story of him cooking a meal for the whole acst and crew. Spaghetti wasn't it? Has Barbara ever done something like that? Would she?

    I don't think you'd find any producer doing that these days. I can't see it being usual back then, either.

    Exactly, he was a one-off like Cruise is in the acting sphere. Going that extra mile.

    The best we can hope for now is someone with a true passion for this type of series.

    If you'd actually bother to do a little research, there are actually quite a few on set reports from 'Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool' that mention Barbara making drinks and serving morning tea to the cast, crew and extras.
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 17,744
    Murdock wrote: »
    The only thing Nolan is good at saving is insomniac patients. ;)

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    (I've fallen asleep watching Nolan films. True story.)
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    Dread It. Run From It. Christopher Nolan's BOND 26 Still Arrives.
  • RC7RC7
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    Nolan can write, direct and produce a first rate big budget movie in 2 years. Barbara Broccoli and MGW are unable to get other people to write a decent script for them in 3 years.

    This point is a point I would like @peter , @ColonelSun and all EON apologists to address.

    - Nolan is a writer/producer/director. Barbara Broccoli is a producer.

    - If Barbara hires someone to write a script and they don’t deliver to her satisfaction she has to re-assess the situation. She isn’t a writer.

    - A lot of Nolan’s ideas, such as Inception and Interstellar have been gestating in the director’s mind for a long time. They are also not bound by expectation, nor overshadowed by a 60 year legacy.

    - Nolan is an anomaly. A one off. He is a complete exception in the studio system.

    - Barbara isn’t working on your desired timeframe.


  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Dread It. Run From It. Christopher Nolan's BOND 26 Still Arrives.

    Where did you buy your magic 8 ball? Jack's joke shop? If it's not funny it ain't worth jack!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Dread It. Run From It. Christopher Nolan's BOND 26 Still Arrives.

    Where did you buy your magic 8 ball? Jack's joke shop? If it's not funny it ain't worth jack!

    Please, we don't need Family Guy to take us off-course. :)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Murdock wrote: »
    Dread It. Run From It. Christopher Nolan's BOND 26 Still Arrives.

    Where did you buy your magic 8 ball? Jack's joke shop? If it's not funny it ain't worth jack!

    Please, we don't need Family Guy to take us off-course. :)

    That's what The Orville is for. ;)
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Dread It. Run From It. Christopher Nolan's BOND 26 Still Arrives.

    Where did you buy your magic 8 ball? Jack's joke shop? If it's not funny it ain't worth jack!
    Joking aside, I'm not claiming Nolan will definitely direct Bond 26, but I am caliming that if the director of Bond 26 will be someone else, then Barbara Broccoli will be remembered as one of the biggest morons in film history.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’m against the idea of Hinx returning, unless he gets used a lot better than he was in SP. To me, the only particularly good Hinx scene was the train fight. He himself isn’t a bad henchman, just not implemented too well. It’s probably best to just move on from him though - no disrespect to Bautista.

    Agreed....
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Dread It. Run From It. Christopher Nolan's BOND 26 Still Arrives.

    Where did you buy your magic 8 ball? Jack's joke shop? If it's not funny it ain't worth jack!
    Joking aside, I'm not claiming Nolan will definitely direct Bond 26, but I am caliming that if the director of Bond 26 will be someone else, then Barbara Broccoli will be remembered as one of the biggest morons in film history.

    You heard it here folks, SetiPancho has declared it. So let it be written, so let it be done.

  • edited August 2018 Posts: 17,744
    Murdock wrote: »
    Dread It. Run From It. Christopher Nolan's BOND 26 Still Arrives.

    Where did you buy your magic 8 ball? Jack's joke shop? If it's not funny it ain't worth jack!
    Joking aside, I'm not claiming Nolan will definitely direct Bond 26,
    Most of your comments here suggest you are.
    but I am caliming that if the director of Bond 26 will be someone else, then Barbara Broccoli will be remembered as one of the biggest morons in film history.

    Nolan doesn't appeal to everyone.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    peter wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’m against the idea of Hinx returning, unless he gets used a lot better than he was in SP..

    Agreed....

    The same could be said of Blofeld/Waltz. Both of these characters/actors could have been served better with a stronger script and direction. I wouldn’t completely dismiss their return
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I am all for Hinx returning. Agree he should be put to better use.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I want Hinx back too.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2018 Posts: 23,883
    I too had lost faith in Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson during the Brosnan era, but they proved their worth these last dozen years. Just my own view.
    I can appreciate this point of view. I personally have lost faith during both eras similarly as they have progressed. SF was a bit of an anomaly, courtesy of Mendes's vision and the always superb Roger Deakins. Generally though, I think they have to find a way to stop peaking with the first film during this leadership run. Build to something rather than blast out of the gates (on account of the freshness of a new actor) and then taper off tepidly.

    They've certainly put themselves in a position where they need to show us something rather fantastic next year. I don't think mediocrity will suffice. Expectations are high. They didn't need to put this level of pressure on themselves imho, and I can think of a number of ways in which they could have relieved the tension along the way.

    We are where we are however. Now it's time to put up. Bring on 2019.
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