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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Getafix wrote: »
    I don't feel they would go with an unknown director because Daniel Craig probably wouldn't like it. Remember he was instrumental in the hiring of both Mendes and Boyle.

    I can't see EON going for an unknown either really. They've just produced 2 huge blockbusters - amongst the most successful in the series. Why would they go for an unknown to do the follow up?

    Ron Howard or Ridley Scott please.

    I watched half of Bladerunner 49 last night (it's long so only got halfway through). I also found it rather turgid and dull. Not convinced Villeneuve is actually right for Bond. But the visuals were great. There were one or two moments with the production design - some of the interiors - where I was thinking 'why can't Bond look like that'? The crater base in SP had potential but was a damp squib. Would love it if Bond could really nail some stunning production design.

    Yes, they will either go for another autuer, or a well known and proven big budget filmmaker. Definitely not an unknown.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 11,425
    Getafix wrote: »
    There were one or two moments with the production design - some of the interiors - where I was thinking 'why can't Bond look like that'?
    Funny thing is, BR 2049 had the same cinematographer and the same production designer as Skyfall.

    i remember someone telling me that dennis glassner had done BR49. I'd never have guessed it though. feels like EON lives in fear of self parody when it comes to Bond. They've erred away from the fantastical so much recently.

    Although SF's casino scene does seem to have had a big impact. John Wick, Black Panther and Fallout all seem to have copied it to one degree or another.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 4,619
    Yes, they will either go for another autuer, or a well known and proven big budget filmmaker. Definitely not an unknown.
    Why would somebody who is known want to direct BOND 25 at this point? I'm afraid EON will have to accept an unknown if they don't want a major delay.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 11,425
    Yes, they will either go for another autuer, or a well known and proven big budget filmmaker. Definitely not an unknown.
    Why would somebody who is known want to direct BOND 25 at this point? I'm afraid EON will have to accept an unknown if they don't want a major delay.

    there are known knowns and known unknowns, but they're definitely not going for an unknown unknown for this one.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 17,756
    What directors do we know have talked to EON in recent years? Morten Tyldum was asked to read a script a few years ago; Nicolas Winding Refn turned down the opportunity to do SP; Denis Villeneuve also turned down the opportunity, didn't he? Who else?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Yes, they will either go for another autuer, or a well known and proven big budget filmmaker. Definitely not an unknown.
    Why would somebody who is known want to direct BOND 25 at this point? I'm afraid EON will have to accept an unknown if they don't want a major delay.

    That's why its called production hell. The people EON want aren't interested and the poeple who are interested EON doesn't want.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I never heard of 'production hell'. Don't you mean 'development hell'?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Yes, they will either go for another autuer, or a well known and proven big budget filmmaker. Definitely not an unknown.
    Why would somebody who is known want to direct BOND 25 at this point? I'm afraid EON will have to accept an unknown if they don't want a major delay.

    That's why its called production hell. The people EON want aren't interested and the poeple who are interested EON doesn't want.

    Lol pretty much.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I never heard of 'production hell'. Don't you mean 'development hell'?

    Yeah.
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    Two weeks have passed since Boyle left the movie. The silence is deafening. What is going on?
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    Two weeks have passed since Boyle left the movie. The silence is deafening. What is going on?

    It's been two weeks, not months.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited September 2018 Posts: 8,399
    Two weeks have passed since Boyle left the movie. The silence is deafening. What is going on?

    It's been two weeks, not months.

    The film is supposed to premier in just over a year, they don't have months to find a director.
  • Two weeks have passed since Boyle left the movie. The silence is deafening. What is going on?

    Very true.

    There was a initial few days where you couldn't move for news or rumours leaking out. However, the silence since has been most unusual.

    Eon operate outside the Hollywood bubble, so there's a chance that a lot is happening that is going unreported. However, if Bond 25 is to start shooting in January, they'll need a director ASAP.

    When Ant-Man lost Edgar Wright it took them two-weeks to recruit a replacement. I imagined Eon would want to stick to the same timeframe. I anticipate that the replacement will be announced in the next few days.

    The likelihood is that the Boyle fiasco took up the whole of the 21st-24th August to clean up. The settlement agreement would have needed to be negotiated and Boyle's salary would need to be rescinded.

    I guess the time since has been spent zeroing in on a helmer to take over. The deal must be close....
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 17,756
    Two weeks have passed since Boyle left the movie. The silence is deafening. What is going on?

    It's been two weeks, not months.

    The film is supposed to premier in just over a year, they don't have months to find a director.

    We simply don't know what's going on behind the scenes. No reason to panic just yet, just because we haven't heard anything in two freaking weeks.
  • Posts: 11,425
    Ron Howard seems to have jumped at the chance to join Solo very late in production. And that was just a Star Wars expanded universe film, not the main franchise.

    So if directors of Howard's calibre are willing to come on board to finish what was essentially someone else's film then I'm guessing there might be someone decent willing to do the same for B25. And filming hasn't even started yet, unlike Solo.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    https://screenrant.com/doug-liman-james-bond-movie-direct/

    From July 2017
    I always wanted to make a James Bond film, and they only seemed to hire British directors, and I'd made Swingers - they were never going to hire me for a James Bond film off Swingers.

    "I felt so insecure while I was making The Bourne Identity that I was making a poor man's spy movie. There was someone on the set who had the Mission: Impossible ring tone on his phone, and every time his phone rang it drove me nuts because I was afraid my movie was never going to be as good as Mission: Impossible. It was never going to be as good as James Bond. So it was really surreal afterwards to go and see the next James Bond film, and be like, 'Oh, I did make a James Bond film, because now the James Bond film looks like The Bourne Identity.' So given the emotional insecurity I bring to my craft, that was really surreal. I would still love to direct a James Bond film, but I'm not sure if I have or haven't."

    At the moment, EON Productions is reportedly looking at Denis Villeneuve (Arrival, Blade Runner: 2049), David MacKenzie (Hell or High Water), and Yann Demange ('71) to helm Bond 25, which has been scheduled to release in November 2019. If Liman plays his cards right, perhaps he'll find himself directing the highly anticipated James Bond sequel.

    Sequel of Edge Of Tomorrow are not realy get from ground with a very bissy Tom Cruise, who also whant to make another movie with him.

    Getafix wrote: »
    Yes, they will either go for another autuer, or a well known and proven big budget filmmaker. Definitely not an unknown.
    Why would somebody who is known want to direct BOND 25 at this point? I'm afraid EON will have to accept an unknown if they don't want a major delay.

    there are known knowns and known unknowns, but they're definitely not going for an unknown unknown for this one.

    Directer of Unknown: Jaume Collet-Serra can be option. It whas a bit Bourne like.
    Spanish directer. Spain, Germany, Croatia, Finland and England (cameo only) as locations can be enough. Yves Girard and Olivier Schneider who are credit for Bond 25 also working on that movie.

    Not realy my first choose, but if not change rest of the crew. Because after all he is horror and thriller directer. Mabey Olivier Schneider and Chris Corbould is enough to take the Risk (Risico).

    The option to use ''Risico'' growing with the day.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Meanwhile at EON Productions. ;;)
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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Meanwhile at EON Productions. ;;)
    VK41Q5J.jpg
    Pretty much. :))
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 11,425
    M_Balje wrote: »
    https://screenrant.com/doug-liman-james-bond-movie-direct/

    From July 2017
    I always wanted to make a James Bond film, and they only seemed to hire British directors, and I'd made Swingers - they were never going to hire me for a James Bond film off Swingers.

    "I felt so insecure while I was making The Bourne Identity that I was making a poor man's spy movie. There was someone on the set who had the Mission: Impossible ring tone on his phone, and every time his phone rang it drove me nuts because I was afraid my movie was never going to be as good as Mission: Impossible. It was never going to be as good as James Bond. So it was really surreal afterwards to go and see the next James Bond film, and be like, 'Oh, I did make a James Bond film, because now the James Bond film looks like The Bourne Identity.' So given the emotional insecurity I bring to my craft, that was really surreal. I would still love to direct a James Bond film, but I'm not sure if I have or haven't."

    At the moment, EON Productions is reportedly looking at Denis Villeneuve (Arrival, Blade Runner: 2049), David MacKenzie (Hell or High Water), and Yann Demange ('71) to helm Bond 25, which has been scheduled to release in November 2019. If Liman plays his cards right, perhaps he'll find himself directing the highly anticipated James Bond sequel.

    Sequel of Edge Of Tomorrow are not realy get from ground with a very bissy Tom Cruise, who also whant to make another movie with him.

    I think Doug Liman is a really good director. I'd love to see him direct Bond.

    I'm tired of this tedious ban on American directors - it's so outdated and really doesn't work in Bond's favour. For English language films what person in their right mind would rule out American directors? It's absurd. And I guess it's a bit discriminatory in a way.

    The Bourne Identity is such a great retro 70s-feel Euro thriller. I remember seeing it the year DAD came out and it was just embarrassing how far EON were away from where they should have been.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Meanwhile at EON Productions. ;;)
    VK41Q5J.jpg
    Pretty much. :))

    Actually, that is this thread, not EON.
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    This thread would have the room without any smoke and fire with the dog screaming hysterically "Fire! Fire!".

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Just a little cheeky humor on my part. :P
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    It would have that and more. Sirens, a clown car, and silly string thrown everywhere.
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    It would have that and more. Sirens, a clown car, and silly string thrown everywhere.

    That's a View to a Kill isn't it?
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Getafix wrote: »
    M_Balje wrote: »
    https://screenrant.com/doug-liman-james-bond-movie-direct/

    From July 2017
    I always wanted to make a James Bond film, and they only seemed to hire British directors, and I'd made Swingers - they were never going to hire me for a James Bond film off Swingers.

    "I felt so insecure while I was making The Bourne Identity that I was making a poor man's spy movie. There was someone on the set who had the Mission: Impossible ring tone on his phone, and every time his phone rang it drove me nuts because I was afraid my movie was never going to be as good as Mission: Impossible. It was never going to be as good as James Bond. So it was really surreal afterwards to go and see the next James Bond film, and be like, 'Oh, I did make a James Bond film, because now the James Bond film looks like The Bourne Identity.' So given the emotional insecurity I bring to my craft, that was really surreal. I would still love to direct a James Bond film, but I'm not sure if I have or haven't."

    At the moment, EON Productions is reportedly looking at Denis Villeneuve (Arrival, Blade Runner: 2049), David MacKenzie (Hell or High Water), and Yann Demange ('71) to helm Bond 25, which has been scheduled to release in November 2019. If Liman plays his cards right, perhaps he'll find himself directing the highly anticipated James Bond sequel.

    Sequel of Edge Of Tomorrow are not realy get from ground with a very bissy Tom Cruise, who also whant to make another movie with him.

    I think Doug Liman is a really good director. I'd love to see him direct Bond.

    I'm tired of this tedious ban on American directors - it's so outdated and really doesn't work in Bond's favour. For English language films what person in their right mind would rule out American directors? It's absurd. And I guess it's a bit discriminatory in a way.

    The Bourne Identity is such a great retro 70s-feel Euro thriller. I remember seeing it the year DAD came out and it was just embarrassing how far EON were away from where they should have been.

    Agreed.

    Doug Liman is an almost perfect fit for a Craig Bond. Efficient, unpretentious and good at both drama and action. Sign him up
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Meanwhile at EON Productions. ;;)
    VK41Q5J.jpg
    Pretty much. :))
    Haha. I guess we'll know in a couple of months how accurate this is.
    --

    I'm open to American directors and think Doug Liman could be excellent. Collet-Serra too. However, as has been mentioned before, anyone will have to meet with Craig's approval and it all depends on what script they are going to be shooting.

    I still think it's commendable how this Boyle story didn't leak until he left. I think they got that announcement out pronto in order to control the story, fearing leaks, and so we are likely a bit aways from a new director announcement.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 1,661
    It is a mystery why no American has ever directed a James Bond film. Richard Maibaum - arguably the definitive Bond film screenwriter - was American. If you can hire an American to come up with Bond's dialogue, why can't you hire an American to direct the character?

    My guess is if Eon sell up and a big studio own 50 percent of Bond - an American will direct a Bond film. My gut feeling is Bond 25 won't be hiring the likes of McQuarrie, Liman etc.


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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    It is a mystery why no American has ever directed a James Bond film. Richard Maibaum - arguably the definitive Bond film screenwriter - was American. If you can hire an American to come up with Bond's dialogue, why can't you hire an American to direct the character?

    My guess is if Eon sell up and a big studio own 50 percent of Bond - an American will direct a Bond film. My gut feeling is Bond 25 won't be hiring the likes of McQuarrie, Liman etc.


    It's obviously a policy Cubby had and it probably made sense in the 60s and 70s but now it just seems a bit pathetic.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    I second Doug Liman. At the very least, the chap knows how to frame action.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    There were one or two moments with the production design - some of the interiors - where I was thinking 'why can't Bond look like that'?
    Funny thing is, BR 2049 had the same cinematographer and the same production designer as Skyfall.

    i remember someone telling me that dennis glassner had done BR49. I'd never have guessed it though. feels like EON lives in fear of self parody when it comes to Bond . They've erred away from the fantastical so much recently.

    Although SF's casino scene does seem to have had a big impact. John Wick, Black Panther and Fallout all seem to have copied it to one degree or another.

    Yet that didn't stop them when they copied the brother angle from Austin Powers.
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