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Succinct and spot on.
Unfortunately some feel happy to facilitate and encourage the ‘entitled’ amongst us. I’ve seen many of your posts go ignored, despite your insight, at the expense of making sure the village idiots are given their platform.
Clear, concise, with laser precision.
Thank you!
I'd say a bit of both. What is being a fan if not felling entitled in some fashion? Even if that is a fallacy, surely we must agree that it's part of the link. Not in a Annie Wilkes kind of way, of course ;) And fan neglect is a nasty thing in the film business. We don't need to be catered, that would be blowing it out of proportion. And I'm not saying I need to scold or hug BB and MGW personally. I just feel they could have a person responsible for keeping us in the loop, instead of having us depend on some Bamingboyding person.
I feel that, since the danielcraignotbon debacle, they have lost the desire to reach out to the fan base, and in some degree, they have gained some fear of doing so.
That’s the crazy part. I recognize you can’t make a Bond film for $40 million anymore, but the ballooning budgets of Skyfall and Spectre, in my opinion, do not show up on the screen.
True, but their last two Bonds made a stack of money for them, so they'll feel their decisions are justified.
As I said, it is what it is. All one can really do is live with it and hope that the film makers ultimately give the viewers a product which silences any naysayers. I await 2019 with anxious optimism.
Quite right. We're much closer to the answer today than we were a few years back though. They've told us we will get a film just over a year from now. That's not too long to wait at this point, and so hopefully fans can hold out just a bit longer.
I expect big organizational changes behind the scenes post-B25, and hopefully they are for the better and incorporate some of the suggestions you propose, which I agree with.
Seriously, how many People post here? A few hundred? This is not the fan base keeping the Franchise alive, but a bunch of nerds.
People shouldn´t take themselves so seriously. What matters is that you enjoy the next film. What doesn´t matter at all is if you were the first to predict a certain Outcome or to read a certain News. Sure, I like to be in the loop no less than the next one, but come on People, don´t make your lives dependent on it.
You see, that´s the problem, it´s the People themselves who make themselves dependent on this or that newsmonger, not Eon.
The head on this nail will need to be replaced.
Thank you, so succinctly put.
You’ve hit the nail on the head here.
There’s a definite need for some people to say ‘I told you so’ and immediately wallow in their own grief. I understand the backlash that a film can generate, SP being one, but the sheer pessimism about this place stinks given we’re in pre-production with essentially, little to no knowledge of what is being created.
I’ve tried to inject a little optimism myself, if only because we’re supposed to be fans, but people don’t want to hear it - the excuse constantly being used, ‘EON needs to be more transparent’. Which is exactly what it is, an excuse to whine. Any sense of optimism is greeted with jeers, ‘You’re just an EON apologist’. Which isn’t the case. I just don’t see the need to be so relentlessly negative. This is just a hobby of mine, not my life.
But I am an EON apologist and a positivist for that matter. All the so called production trouble we've been observing at a distance is nothing but good news to me. People tend to be the best they can be in troublesome times. And so I expect the film to be grand. I'm a QOS apologist as well, for the same reasons. And I'm not calling for transparency. And this is certainly not my life, as my life is as heavy and serious as one can imagine, trust me. This is also a hobby of mine. My moderate take on the communication game between EON and this (small) community is simple. Yarborough worked well. Many of the posters here don't remember that, but they were fun times. That's all. Fun. All I'm asking from one of my many hobbies. Fun. Isn't that the point? But yes, some people take this very seriously. They should frequent an oncology wing or a psychiatric ward for a bit, to get some perspective.
By December we should get the big presser. That's only a few months out. The film is just over a year away after all and that's not long to wait at all.
As far as we know, he or she is in place and contributing to pre-production and polishing the script.
Not that I can predict the future, but: Despite the existential angst we're all drowning in as a result of this month's developments, I'm sort of tickled by how many recent assumptions-posing-as-reporting (even if they're technically true) might be looked back on as rather funny exaggerations.
A two-second Twitter search pulls up endless stories sensationalizing small kernels of truth. A headline like "Bond 25 is getting an entirely new script from P&W" is engineered to feel like "they're back to square one conceptually" to generate clicks.
I'd gather it's more literally a "whole new script" in the sense that the 17th draft is a different PDF document than the 16th draft.
And not, like, "well he was going to spend the entire movie at a secret Namibian torture site in a coma/dream state induced by a Middle Eastern playboy who wants to depress Bond as a symbol of his plot to destabilize Britain economically" vs. "now he's battling a Russian oligarch named Irmativ Buntoff who's secretly a Blofeld proxy that kills Madeleine and lures Bond to his experimental Garden of Death in Finland where it turns out to all be a trap laid by Idris Elba who kills 007 in a dramatic finale and steals his identity."
(Disclaimer: No I don't know what's in Bond 25 and yes those are purely made up ideas based on online rumors and extra definitely yes I would watch that second one in a heartbeat.)
I remember the Yarborough reports, but from memory (arguably hazy) they were production blogs - similar (certainly better) to the vlogs they release once production gears up. We aren’t at that point yet and I don’t expect EON to be offering anything of merit while they are still nailing down the specifics.
But yes, if we were to talk quality of info during production there’s certainly room to improve in terms of delivery and content.
It’s a double-edged sword of course. The more juicy the intel, the more we’ll see the new breed of outraged fans calling for their heads because of some trivial thing they don’t like.
I can see why they don’t want to waste their time with it. Commercially it certainly doesn’t impact things as we’re an irrelevance in the grand scheme of things.
I do hope so.
Maybe EON needs their own Sarah Sanders.
Ha ha.
Sure. Apparently the most silly ideas, like the CGI-surf-scene or the car chase in the ice palace, and the show-down on board the plane were put in on Tamahori's request, during shooting. Yet, BB and MGW should have felt, that the movie went into an abysmal direction. Or their belief in Tamahori was so great, that they did not take notice. Apparently Brosnan complained about the gadgets and the outlandish script.
I don't have the link offhand, but I believe the exact quote from Rob re: the extremely over-the-top treatment of the invisible car as a stealth vehicle is, "We felt it should be a 3 or 4 out of 10, and the director wanted it to be a 10."
Might have been during Empire's Skyfall spoiler podcast retrospective.
Correctamundo. Crawford and Brightman are way too old. They would not want another AVTAK with a Bond actor being "400 years too old".
Good point but I am not entirely against P&W. I am okay either with fresh writer or one already settled in.
That was my point. P&W are blamed for stuff, they did not originally write in the script, they did it on Tamahori's request. I think I remember a radio broadcast some years ago, where they also said, that they were not happy with parts of the screenplay. I'm not sure, whether the invisible car was their idea, or if that aws also one of the brilliant ideas of Lee Tamahori. Anyway, BB and MGW approved these ideas to keep their director happy. That does not mean, that I believe them to be the only able screenwriters to write Bond movies. Which they clearly aren't.
Without Die Another Day being as bad as it was, the kick-you-to-the-balls arrival of Casino Royale with Daniel Craig might never have happened.Same can be expect from bond 25 after Spectre.
The first half of DAD was pretty solid, imho. After the clinic it goes rapidly downhill unfortunately.