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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Looking forward to hearing what the title is going to be. It's hard to know what kind of story they are going to tell for sure, but I think that Fukunaga has a very unique style that would lend well to a lower-key thriller film. I think it's safe to say that he's been onboard for a few weeks and that maybe the Purvis/Wade redrafts and rewrites we spoke of last week are to input some of Fukunaga's ideas into a pre-existing template.

    Either way, it's nice to see things happening and coming together on the prep end.

    Exciting times lie ahead.
  • Indeed.

    I'm happy to see so many Bond fans happy today. It's been a rough month and we all needed a win.

    Fukunaga is just such a terrific choice. I'm so looking forward to diving deeper into his filmography as we approach Bond 25. I was enthused by Danny Boyle's selection, but I'm downright excited about Cary's.
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    Looks like I'm late to the party. My first reactions (I've not read the comments posted in the last 24 hours yet):

    1. Alright, alright, alright!
    2. Please forgive me Goddess Barbara! :bz
    3. Fukunaga is a good choice. Scratch that. He is a very, VERY good choice.
    4. Overjoyed that they didn't pick a nobody. S.J. Clarkson and Bart Layton on suicide watch! :))
    5. Not only is Fukunaga much superior to Clarkson or Layton, I believe he is a much better choice than Yann Demange or David Mackenzie would have been. I can't believe I didn't even think of him when I compiled my most recent Bond director wish list.
    6. Fukunaga is a WRITER-director! Will he become the first Bond director EVER to get a writing credit for his Bond film?
    7. LOVE the delay! Not too much, but it will give them enough time to deliver a movie fans deserve.
    8. LOVE the February release date! Less competition and I still get to watch the new Bond movie in cold weather!

    I agree and glad they bit the bullet and went for the delay. Feels like enough time if everyone pulls their finger out to deliver a decent, not overly rushed movie.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 4,619
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Not as excited as I was for Danny Boyle. Let's hope he can compete with Mission Impossible.
    I'm hoping that they won't even try competing with Mission 6. Emphasis should be on story, characters and suspense, not on action.
    but I think that Fukunaga has a very unique style that would lend well to a lower-key thriller film.
    Wasn't EON wanting lots of action the reason Boyle left?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I've just caught up to about 7 pages of reactions to this latest news, pretty much all very positive, now for my own response.

    I have no idea who this Fugunaga guy is, but I have seen the first fews episodes of True Detective, and had to stop watching because of how dour and cheerless it was. That's not what I want from Bond 25, and I thought I wasn't alone in this. I've read through hundreds of posts, describing this guy as a "hipster" and "progressive" and saying his style is very arthouse. Here I am hoping Bond can stay away from someone like that for as long as possible. I can tell many seem very excited, but this just sounds horrible to me, and I cannot be enthused about it. It doesn't appear EON are likely to be changing course anytime soon, at least until they hit an iceberg, which Bond 25 could well be. This strikes me of the kind of arrogance and cynicism that brought us DAD and AVTAK. The "things are going really well, just give them more of the same, even if our leading man is a bit past it, and we've already done this type of film to death, who's gonna notice" attitude. Yeah, that never ends well, no thanks.

    And the four and a half year gap is just the extra kick in the teeth we needed, right?

    Right now my enthusiasm for my favourite franchise is seriously on the wain. I have not lived through a time when I have felt this way before, but it just seems like Bond is on a different course, headed in the opposite direction. I have been a fan my entire life, and hold 1962 - 2002 very dear to my heart (yes, even DAD which was my first Bond at the cinema). I liked CR very much, but didn't see as a masterpiece as many others did and still do, and perhaps that's where the separation started, because from then on things began to focus on being "arty" before telling a story, and when they did storytelling, it was always through the prism of the emotional and the personal. But I stuck with it through QoS, and then through the four years of waiting for Bond 23, then SF, then the next wait, then SP was a disaster. And now this wait, four and a half years. Each time my enthusiasm has took a hit, but I always felt they would re-find that Bond feel that the old films had (maybe besides LTK), but this last run has given me nothing. The decisions being made right now are completely quackers to me, but I won't ruin everyones good time. Go crazy.
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    I like to think Fukunaga is a better choice than Boyle for Bond. Not that I was unhappy with Boyle's announcement at all, but perhaps a slightly lesser-known, younger director could be what's best. There's still so many questions, and I'm excited to take the journey and find the answers - what will the story be about, what will the locations be, who is in the cast, who will do the music, etc. etc. I've missed that Bond production journey so much!
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    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Not as excited as I was for Danny Boyle. Let's hope he can compete with Mission Impossible.
    I'm hoping that they won't even try competing with Mission 6. Emphasis should be on story, characters and suspense, not on action.

    Yes, I agree. And Fukunaga is very keen on character construction. That's where the narrative comes from as far as he's concerned. He's also a very good action director, well, small scale action, but still. I say we're in for an interesting ride.

    Had no ideia he was going to pick up Kubrick's Napoleon for a Spielberg produced tv series. That is monumental! And that is his last project before Bond25, right?
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,889
    FWIW, EON now have an additional 3weeks for post-production due to this change in their scheduling. Although this is assuming that there isn't an earlier UK release than 14 February 2020.
  • I've just caught up to about 7 pages of reactions to this latest news, pretty much all very positive, now for my own response.

    I have no idea who this Fugunaga guy is, but I have seen the first fews episodes of True Detective, and had to stop watching because of how dour and cheerless it was. That's not what I want from Bond 25, and I thought I wasn't alone in this. I've read through hundreds of posts, describing this guy as a "hipster" and "progressive" and saying his style is very arthouse. Here I am hoping Bond can stay away from someone like that for as long as possible. I can tell many seem very excited, but this just sounds horrible to me, and I cannot be enthused about it. It doesn't appear EON are likely to be changing course anytime soon, at least until they hit an iceberg, which Bond 25 could well be. This strikes me of the kind of arrogance and cynicism that brought us DAD and AVTAK. The "things are going really well, just give them more of the same, even if our leading man is a bit past it, and we've already done this type of film to death, who's gonna notice" attitude. Yeah, that never ends well, no thanks.

    And the four and a half year gap is just the extra kick in the teeth we needed, right?

    Right now my enthusiasm for my favourite franchise is seriously on the wain. I have not lived through a time when I have felt this way before, but it just seems like Bond is on a different course, headed in the opposite direction. I have been a fan my entire life, and hold 1962 - 2002 very dear to my heart (yes, even DAD which was my first Bond at the cinema). I liked CR very much, but didn't see as a masterpiece as many others did and still do, and perhaps that's where the separation started, because from then on things began to focus on being "arty" before telling a story, and when they did storytelling, it was always through the prism of the emotional and the personal. But I stuck with it through QoS, and then through the four years of waiting for Bond 23, then SF, then the next wait, then SP was a disaster. And now this wait, four and a half years. Each time my enthusiasm has took a hit, but I always felt they would re-find that Bond feel that the old films had (maybe besides LTK), but this last run has given me nothing. The decisions being made right now are completely quackers to me, but I won't ruin everyones good time. Go crazy.

    Big surprise you're complaining again.
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    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Not as excited as I was for Danny Boyle. Let's hope he can compete with Mission Impossible.
    I'm hoping that they won't even try competing with Mission 6. Emphasis should be on story, characters and suspense, not on action.
    but I think that Fukunaga has a very unique style that would lend well to a lower-key thriller film.
    Wasn't EON wanting lots of action the reason Boyle left?

    1000% agree. Story, story, story please.
    I've just caught up to about 7 pages of reactions to this latest news, pretty much all very positive, now for my own response.

    I have no idea who this Fugunaga guy is, but I have seen the first fews episodes of True Detective, and had to stop watching because of how dour and cheerless it was. That's not what I want from Bond 25, and I thought I wasn't alone in this. I've read through hundreds of posts, describing this guy as a "hipster" and "progressive" and saying his style is very arthouse. Here I am hoping Bond can stay away from someone like that for as long as possible. I can tell many seem very excited, but this just sounds horrible to me, and I cannot be enthused about it. It doesn't appear EON are likely to be changing course anytime soon, at least until they hit an iceberg, which Bond 25 could well be. This strikes me of the kind of arrogance and cynicism that brought us DAD and AVTAK. The "things are going really well, just give them more of the same, even if our leading man is a bit past it, and we've already done this type of film to death, who's gonna notice" attitude. Yeah, that never ends well, no thanks.

    And the four and a half year gap is just the extra kick in the teeth we needed, right?

    Right now my enthusiasm for my favourite franchise is seriously on the wain. I have not lived through a time when I have felt this way before, but it just seems like Bond is on a different course, headed in the opposite direction. I have been a fan my entire life, and hold 1962 - 2002 very dear to my heart (yes, even DAD which was my first Bond at the cinema). I liked CR very much, but didn't see as a masterpiece as many others did and still do, and perhaps that's where the separation started, because from then on things began to focus on being "arty" before telling a story, and when they did storytelling, it was always through the prism of the emotional and the personal. But I stuck with it through QoS, and then through the four years of waiting for Bond 23, then SF, then the next wait, then SP was a disaster. And now this wait, four and a half years. Each time my enthusiasm has took a hit, but I always felt they would re-find that Bond feel that the old films had (maybe besides LTK), but this last run has given me nothing. The decisions being made right now are completely quackers to me, but I won't ruin everyones good time. Go crazy.

    Oh dear. If you don't like True Detectives there ain't no helping you.

    It's a flawless work of near genius.

    If Bond25 comes even close, I will be very happy.
  • brinkeguthriebrinkeguthrie Piz Gloria
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    Let's just get the basic logo out of the way.
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  • Risico007 wrote: »
    Actually it dawned on me the first American director for James Bond was actually

    William H. Brown Jr. (Whom I am guessing was American) as he directed Casino Royale 1954

    Irvin Kershner Directed Never say Never Again

    Don't forget John Huston (one of five credited directors) in Casino Royale (1967)
  • Great interview just on British news with John Glen. John thinks that he's a fantastic hire and mentioned his modern real-world sensibilities, visual attention to detail and body of dramatic documentary work . I just wish the media would stop going on about Idris in every bit of news, given that he had worked with Fukunaga. I love the guy but he's too old, they really do need to drop it because it's boring.

    But it's great to see John Glen on the box, if slightly sad that he looks so old. I still remember coming home from school and seeing John Glen doing interviews from set about production on TLD. Happy memories!!!!
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    The "things are going really well, just give them more of the same, even if our leading man is a bit past it, and we've already done this type of film to death, who's gonna notice" attitude.

    Oh come on! All of us can see it's nothing of the sort. We have a beloved actor coming back for his last film and they want it to be as avant guarde as his other quality driven films. They've been pushing the envelope with Craig since the beginning and they're gonna do it again. And that's fine by me. That's the real continuity of these films. And that's one I'm ready to embrace again.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    As with Barbara’s, his Idris comments are . diplomatic politeness
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    bondjames wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I'm glad we have the director finally. I'm not as enthused by the delay but at least it's not too long. True Detective 1 is indeed excellent, but that kind of sensibility may not play well into global box office. It could be a bit obtuse.

    A few points I noticed regarding this, given the nature of the conversation that has been ongoing on this thread for the past month.

    1. there is a delay
    2. the film will release in early 2020 (and not late 2020)
    3. the director is American
    4. the announcement came out of the blue and was a name we didn't hear beforehand
    5. they annouced the director as soon as he was locked, and didn't wait
    6. Variety, The Hollywood Reporter and countless others got it right

    I hope this demonstrates that there's nothing wrong with speculation by amateurs in lieu of hard facts. That should perhaps be kept in mind going forward. Those who predicted the above, congratulations. Well done. I was on the wrong side of some of the above, especially 2. and 4.

    Do the best predictors get a prize?
    A little humility and decorum would be just fine with me going forward. Nothing more is needed.
    Well said. Comment of the week!
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    A sign of intelligence, dear @talos7, ;)
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Univex wrote: »
    The "things are going really well, just give them more of the same, even if our leading man is a bit past it, and we've already done this type of film to death, who's gonna notice" attitude.

    Oh come on! All of us can see it's nothing of the sort. We have a beloved actor coming back for his last film and they want it to be as avant guarde as his other quality driven films. They've been pushing the envelope with Craig since the beginning and they're gonna do it again. And that's fine by me. That's the real continuity of these films. And that's one I'm ready to embrace again.

    Very well said!


  • But it's great to see John Glen on the box, if slightly sad that he looks so old. I still remember coming home from school and seeing John Glen doing interviews from set about production on TLD. Happy memories!!!!

    Do you know if it's posted online anywhere? Would love to watch it.

    I had the pleasure of meeting John briefly a couple years ago. Just a lovely, lovely man and really enjoyable to talk to. For Your Eyes Only was a very early Bond film for me, so he really helped set the impression.



  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Univex wrote: »
    A sign of intelligence, dear @talos7, ;)
    Indeed.
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    Random thoughts at this point:

    -Cary is an inspired choice. He's got a small but very accomplished body of work, he's somewhat young, and he wants to do Bond! I believe he will bring energy and excitement to this project and help deliver the best film possible.
    -Given Cary's writing background, and the whole situation going on with P&W+Hodge's script ideas, perhaps Cary will play a big part in the writing process? Maybe he already is? Perhaps they won't need any more writers if he can iron out the wrinkles in the P&W/Hodge scripts (I say Hodge since reports say some of his stuff will be used in P&W's new script). In any case, I think it's only advantageous that Cary does writing in addition to directing.
    -While a delay of any kind is unfortunate, I'm not too upset given it's only by a few months rather than a whole year. Not too bad of a deal here - also kind of neat for the historical purpose of having a Bond finally release in a year ending with "0."
    -Lots of interesting firsts with this Bond film (at least EON-related). First with the "0" year, first helmed by an American director, first in a very long time to come out in a non-October/November month, first Bond actor to finish with 5 total films (assuming Craig does not do more), and probably more I'm missing.
    -Given the rocky pre-production and all the time that's passed, I feel more certain than ever that Bond 25 will indeed be Craig's final outing. He never fully closed the door on the possibility of doing Bond 26, but I have a hard time imagining him doing any more after all that's happened (and will still happen) with Bond 25.
    -Anxious to learn more! What will our cast be like, what are our locations, main story, etc.! Sadly, we may have to wait a little while, but hopefully we get juicy nuggets of info along the way to the main production!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited September 2018 Posts: 8,216
    but I think that Fukunaga has a very unique style that would lend well to a lower-key thriller film.
    Wasn't EON wanting lots of action the reason Boyle left?

    We don't know for sure, nor will we ever know 100% for sure why Boyle and EON couldn't work things out.

    But nevertheless, you can have a low-key thriller style film that has plenty of action as well. Chases, gunplay and fistfights can all be had. It just depends on what kind of action they'll be shooting for and how it's worked into the narrative. No more attempts at breaking Guinness world-records for the sake of breaking a Guinness world-record.
    I've just caught up to about 7 pages of reactions to this latest news, pretty much all very positive, now for my own response.

    I have no idea who this Fugunaga guy is,

    This is the key phrase of this comment and thankfully it was at the beginning.

    I'd recommend you give Fukunaga another go-around, @Mendes4Lyfe if only to cement what you are fearful of and be able to make more informed comments about his style. He has a strong command of character. He's not always dour - he's certainly got an air of introspection in all of his work, but I never find it overpowering. He did direct a fairly stellar version of Jane Eyre as well, so he has range.

    Craig's era is at its best when it sticks to his strengths, which are unique to other eras. It would be crazy to depart from that with his last film, considering how botched the storytelling was in his previous entry. I think they've pulled an ace out of their sleeve with him.

    As an aside, Fukunaga's new Netflix show is getting great reviews.
  • DomesticKittenDomesticKitten Blofeld's Lap
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    Very exciting news! We did the VFX on a scene in his new show Maniac at work, and while I can't unfortunately say what it is, it makes me very very excited for his handling of Bond. Top choice, he's going to make a fine film!
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 4,619
    jake24 wrote: »
    It's cautious excitement for me. Fukunaga is a superb choice, but he's got a tendency to leave productions. Hopefully it works out but I'm prepared for the worst.
    It HAS TO work out. Now that they have announced Fukunaga, EON has no choice but to give him EVERYTHING. I think we all agree that if Fukunaga left the production, it would be a MAJOR disaster.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    It's cautious excitement for me. Fukunaga is a superb choice, but he's got a tendency to leave productions. Hopefully it works out but I'm prepared for the worst.
    It HAS TO work out. Now that they have announced Fukunaga, EON has no choice but to give him EVERYTHING. I think we all agree that if Fukunaga left the production, it would be a MAJOR disaster.

    Then it would be delayed another year or more. That could lead to Craig bailing out and another delay. This could go on forever.

    I'll be twice Roger Moore's age in AVTAK when B25 finally comes out, and I haven't even reached his LALD age yet!

    I seriously doubt the new director will crap out on this one, though. He may well turn B25 into a masterpiece. I really do need to watch some TRUE DETECTIVE episodes.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 11,425
    If Fukunaga bailed (which he seems to do quite often) then I think Craig would walk and we'd be looking at an even bigger delay until the next Bond film.
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    Yeah. Fukunaga cannot bail; it would probably cause Craig to leave and then the wait with a new Bond actor would be at least until 2021. I’d rather not think about how bad things would get if he doesn’t work out.
  • Right now my enthusiasm for my favourite franchise is seriously on the wain.
    I read all of your post and understand what your saying to an extent. Much has shifted and that some of what many felt was magic about the series has changed.

    But I do think the films need to reflect the times they're made in. I think you've got to see the announcement for what it is, a major talent coming onboard a project which had failed to launch. I love that Cary is super intelligent and multi-talented, my hope is the he crafts a film that gives DC a fitting send-off to match the calibre of his entrance.

    Nothing about this announcement to me shouts desperation, which if you poll most of us here, was probably the biggest concern. I think EON are to be commended for avoiding some knee jerk - someone, anyone position. Which given the pressure from MGM was significant.

    Mendes4Lyfe what do you think needs to happen to bring it back to what you loved about the previous films/period?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    I can't believe we're discussing this on the same day of the first bit of confirmed good news in ages but ok;

    If anything, I think Fukunaga's history will be the reason why he'll work out fine. I'm sure EON know all this and it would have been a point of contention during their discussions. No good Producer would let that elephant in the room go unquestioned.

    So either Fukunaga agreed to EON's terms or EON are willing to give him everything he asks for.
  • Maybe this is part of why Fukunaga accepted; he realizes that he has a ton of leverage.
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