No Time To Die: Production Diary

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    The cast has got to be chosen by now, sets are probably getting ready or in the building phase, p&w are probably tightening up the script. Still pretty interesting next to nothing on plot has leaked by now.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I think the script is being rewritten in favor of Fukunaga's directorial vision.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I think the script is being rewritten in favor of Fukunaga's directorial vision.

    That’s probably very correct
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    As long as they've dropped Namibia, the Russian angle and that mahori henchman cliché. Don't know exactly why but none of that sounded better than a Brosnan era video game or a fan fic.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Univex wrote: »
    As long as they've dropped Namibia, the Russian angle and that mahori henchman cliché. Don't know exactly why but none of that sounded better than a Brosnan era video game or a fan fic.
    I, for one, would kill for another Brosnan era Bond film. It's been a long time.
  • edited October 2018 Posts: 6,709
    Univex wrote: »
    As long as they've dropped Namibia, the Russian angle and that mahori henchman cliché. Don't know exactly why but none of that sounded better than a Brosnan era video game or a fan fic.
    I, for one, would kill for another Brosnan era Bond film. It's been a long time.

    Love the Brosnan era Bond films (except DUD), but I was referring to the games and their cliché narratives, characters, and action.

    Although one could advocate the "Brosnan Bond era films" were "Brosnan's Bond films" and I'm not sure they fit or can go hand in hand with the Craig's Bond films. Two very different approaches. I wish they went back to the essence of the Craig Bond film's that were CR and QOS. Not that I didn't like SF and SP, but you know what I mean.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    As long as they've dropped Namibia, the Russian angle and that mahori henchman cliché. Don't know exactly why but none of that sounded better than a Brosnan era video game or a fan fic.
    I, for one, would kill for another Brosnan era Bond film. It's been a long time.
    Love the Brosnan era Bond films (except DUD), but I was referring to the games and their cliché narratives, characters, and action.
    Apart from Nightfire, you're right, actually. Both Agent Under Fire (not technically a Brosnan game but part of his era and style) and Everything or Nothing had average-to-terrible stories to go with. I see where you're coming from.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    But no seriously folks... the title of the new film is GOLDFINGER 2.0. This just in!
    Hey, if Star Wars can remake A New Hope, Bond can remake Goldfinger.

    They did, it's called A View To A Kill.

    The remake was better

    AVTAK better than GF? Seriously?

    I sadly agree

    Gold finger was always a film with iconic moments but no thru line

    No through line? What does that mean? The plot is driven by a man obsessed with gold. Goldfinger is a terrific character, and the supporting characters around him are great too - very memorable. Pussy Galore is far more interesting than MayDay. OddJob is an iconic character to this day. Connery is on top form. The film oozes 60's class and style. AVTAK oozes 80's cheese. Moore is past his prime and looks and sounds tired. Walken is good as Zorin, but the writing doesn't do him justice. There is a reason why GF is always at the top of critics' and audiences' lists of the best Bond films. I don't think I have ever seen such a list with AVTAK in the top 3 or 5 films. In fact it nearly always appears near the bottom. It's a poor plot re-hash of a far, far superior film.

    Completely agree. A new bar near me was playing GF on a loop with a cool black-and-white tint/filter, and there are so many iconic moments! You can't get a better example of the "Fleming sweep" from the card game to Jill Masterton to the golf game to Tilly and the car chase and on and on.

    Sure the plot is ridiculous but that's part of the fun.
  • edited October 2018 Posts: 16,163
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    But no seriously folks... the title of the new film is GOLDFINGER 2.0. This just in!
    Hey, if Star Wars can remake A New Hope, Bond can remake Goldfinger.

    They did, it's called A View To A Kill.

    The remake was better

    AVTAK better than GF? Seriously?

    I sadly agree

    Gold finger was always a film with iconic moments but no thru line

    No through line? What does that mean? The plot is driven by a man obsessed with gold. Goldfinger is a terrific character, and the supporting characters around him are great too - very memorable. Pussy Galore is far more interesting than MayDay. OddJob is an iconic character to this day. Connery is on top form. The film oozes 60's class and style. AVTAK oozes 80's cheese. Moore is past his prime and looks and sounds tired. Walken is good as Zorin, but the writing doesn't do him justice. There is a reason why GF is always at the top of critics' and audiences' lists of the best Bond films. I don't think I have ever seen such a list with AVTAK in the top 3 or 5 films. In fact it nearly always appears near the bottom. It's a poor plot re-hash of a far, far superior film.

    Sighs...................eventually there will likely be fans here that argue DAD is far superior to OHMSS in several posts that have nothing to do with B25.

    As much as I love AVTAK, which I do, GF remains my #1.

    Even that has nothing to do with B25, so I'll try to shamelessly shoehorn it in:
    I hope whoever composes B25 gets a chance to enjoy GF and AVTAK beforehand as both have wonderful Barry scores. I'd love B25's gunbarrel to have a classic structure for the Bond theme as heard in both of those respective gunbarrels.

    A bit sloppy shoehorning, but I tried.
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    Beyond astonishing that someone could seriously argue that avtak (21 in my ranking) is better than goldfinger (2). It’s the equivalent of arguing that dad is better than frwl.
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    I think the script is being rewritten in favor of Fukunaga's directorial vision.

    I agree this is probably where they're at right now. Fukunaga himself could very well be co-writing.
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I think the script is being rewritten in favor of Fukunaga's directorial vision.

    I agree this is probably where they're at right now. Fukunaga himself could very well be co-writing.

    Let's hope so!
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I'm far from GF'ss biggest fan, I do think it's vastly overrated, I'm planning to watch it again soon and seeing how it sits with me.

    Although I get why it is regarded by the critics as it is though, it is iconic regardless of my personal opinion of it, I think that FRWL is Connery's peak and also prefer Rog's Goldfinger, SWLM.

    That being said GF is infinitely better than VTAK, that film is Moore's worst film and he was way past it.

    Connery in comparrison was pretty much at his peak, I personally prefer him in FRWL but it was him in GF that cemented his legacy, Rog in comparison had done 1 or 2 too many and was looking a joke in the role.

    One is utterly iconic and continues (regardless of my opinion) to inform the series and get used as a benchmark and the other is tired rehash with an actor who looked ludicrous in the role.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited October 2018 Posts: 10,591
    Removing off-topic chatter from this point. Please stay on topic.
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    I am NOT saying AVTAK is better than the beloved GF x I am saying if I had a choice of the two it would be 70/30 that i personally would pick AVTAK for ME only.
    Understood @jake24 x last comment on the topic x this might need a thread but I’m not doing it
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    Sorry x That was not a dirty protest , my iPhone went crazy !!!
    Apologies all !!
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    Was visiting Houston over the weekend and stopped by their Omega boutique. Outside of having 25 divers in the water alongside Craig, they didn't have much new info and are excited to see when they reveal the new watch for Bond 25. They did a quick service on my watch and I used their pen with a Spectre logo to sign the receipt!
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Megan Ellison's Harsh New Reality: Fewer Films, "More Responsible" Finances
    https://hollywoodreporter.com/news/megan-ellisons-harsh-new-reality-films-more-responsible-finances-1152836

    Clearly Annapurna could emerge a much scaled-back entity. The question then becomes whether the company will generate enough films to sustain its distribution operation.

    At issue are not just Annapurna’s movies but those of MGM, which are to be released through a joint venture. Creed II, the first big MGM movie under the deal and Annapurna’s most commercial release to date, will open Nov. 21. Several other MGM movies are scheduled for the months ahead, but the jewel in the crown is the next James Bond, set for February 2020. If Annapurna falters, that film is likely to be released by Universal, which is handling overseas distribution. (MGM might also make a play to distribute domestically itself.)

    In a statement provided to The Hollywood Reporter, a company spokesperson says: "Annapurna remains committed to the artists we work with and the films we produce together. We are devoted to our current projects, partners and upcoming slate across all divisions. Since the company’s inception, Annapurna has been known to take risks and swing big. We’re proud of that. We are simply recalibrating so that our creative decisions are fully aligned with our business goals."
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Please correct me if I have this wrong, but my understanding is that MGM by itself isn't in the best of financial straits at present either. Apart from a few big franchise efforts (most notably Bond and perhaps Creed), they don't have a lot of large tentpole cinematic products, and are more trying to grow out their EPIX streaming service, which requires a lot of upfront and ongoing investment, as well as a pipeline of films and series to fill it with.

    Annapurna can provide content to fill the pipeline, but it seems to be more artistic rather than commercially focused, and is unlikely to create too much box office waves.

    Given JV partner Annapurna's financial scaleback, it's perhaps now more likely that someone may step in to scoop up MGM down the road. That's always been my view given the consolidation in the industry. Universal seems like a reasonable bet at this stage, because owner Comcast has made it clear they are looking for IP & content, and they are willing and able to pay for it too.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Interesting. How wild would it be if they came to my city.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Interesting. How wild would it be if they came to my city.

    +1

    (...eh?)
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Hmmmm, interesting indeed.

    "Will er das Dutzend noch vollmachen? «Ja, es gibt Gespräche über eine Zusammenarbeit für den nächsten Bond-Film. Vor kurzem nun wurde endlich ein Regisseur gefunden, und für nächsten März sind schon Dreharbeiten in Kanada terminiert.» Wobei, so fügt der 73-Jährige an, «ich nicht mehr allzu viele Zentimeter meines restlichen Lebensmeters in einer Eiswüste verbringen will."
  • Univex wrote: »
    As long as they've dropped Namibia, the Russian angle and that mahori henchman cliché. Don't know exactly why but none of that sounded better than a Brosnan era video game or a fan fic.

    Is this all confirmed? I've spent quite a lot of time in Namibia over the years, and there's some great potential there for settings.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Interesting. How wild would it be if they came to my city.

    We have the second Pine Wood Studios here @jake24 ... combined with tax credits, plus the strength of the US dollar, we're an attractive location.

    Or, will there be skiing-- Banff, Alberta is gorgeous.

    However, I have yet to hear even a whisper that they're shooting in Canada, so will now keep an ear to the ground.
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    Canadian weather (and the climate) can vary wildly depending on where you are, but: If their aim is to capture winter scenes, a March start is potentially leaving it a little late for most of the southern parts of the country.

    Not to say you can't do it -- March is certainly considered a "winter" month here -- but also a volatile, inconsistent one by times. It may suggest they're looking at somewhere Bondian where snow at the time of year is still a lock. Banff (think Cortina, but in Alberta) springs to mind.

    Or maybe the true north. The translated version of the article for me mentions something about an "ice desert"...

    Or maybe "ice dessert." The kind Gustav Graves would have served at the palace afterparty. ;)

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    octofinger wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    As long as they've dropped Namibia, the Russian angle and that mahori henchman cliché. Don't know exactly why but none of that sounded better than a Brosnan era video game or a fan fic.

    Is this all confirmed? I've spent quite a lot of time in Namibia over the years, and there's some great potential there for settings.

    Well, it was mentioned when we had Boyle and Hodge's script. Since then, we've heard sets had been taken down and so we assumed cast would be well, recast, and locations would depend on the new treatment or script. I know Namibia is a gorgeous country, but that combined with the rest of what was rumoured didn't add up to something that made sense or had a clear ideia. Actually I just had a bad feeling about it all, nothing more than that, nothing concrete anyways.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Also a ninety minute flight from Toronto to NY if DC wants to get home on weekends to see baby and wife...

    The possibility of shooting interiors at Pinewood Studios Toronto is not out of the realm...

    On location in the Great White North, or Banff...

    Great tax credits, some of the best in the world, great crews, and the strength of the US greenback
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    Canada seems like an ideal place for more than just winter location filming!
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    Considering Bond blew off Canada in Thunderball to go to the Bahamas, I'd say it's high time they get him to come visit
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