No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • I should also add that, despite everything, I think EON is onto a winner with Fukunaga. Everything I've seen and heard so far is quite encouraging.
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    octofinger wrote: »
    I should also add that, despite everything, I think EON is onto a winner with Fukunaga. Everything I've seen and heard so far is quite encouraging.

    I like the fact that Fukunaga's first Bond was a Roger. Anyone showing some love for AVTAK is cool by me. He doesn't seem to pick favorites or dismiss any of the the Bond's .


    I also like that he grew up watching THREE'S COMPANY, CHEERS and so forth.

    Making the way in the world today..........takes everything you've got..............


    Maybe B25's theme song will have a catchy jingle that generations will remember.
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    eheh, Ted Dawson for villain. Or maybe when Bond enters Mi6 everyone shouts: Boooonnnd!
    Damn, I miss Cheers.
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    Univex wrote: »
    eheh, Ted Dawson for villain. Or maybe when Bond enters Mi6 everyone shouts: Boooonnnd!
    Damn, I miss Cheers.

    LOL! I was going to post something similar.
    I was also thinking it would be funny if Fukunaga brought Priscilla Barnes back to Bond for B25.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    eheh, Ted Dawson for villain. Or maybe when Bond enters Mi6 everyone shouts: Boooonnnd!
    Damn, I miss Cheers.

    LOL! I was going to post something similar.
    I was also thinking it would be funny if Fukunaga brought Priscilla Barnes back to Bond for B25.

    eheh, yes.
    Come to think of it, Woody Harrelson has been a surprise for the last couple of years. Maybe he could have some small role? Or Kelsey.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Fukunaga was named after the great Cary Grant himself, who in turn apparently inspired Fleming's Bond and the early films. I hope his Bond film reflects that connection, even if it's ever so slight and in the humour or style.
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    Univex wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    eheh, Ted Dawson for villain. Or maybe when Bond enters Mi6 everyone shouts: Boooonnnd!
    Damn, I miss Cheers.

    LOL! I was going to post something similar.
    I was also thinking it would be funny if Fukunaga brought Priscilla Barnes back to Bond for B25.

    eheh, yes.
    Come to think of it, Woody Harrelson has been a surprise for the last couple of years. Maybe he could have some small role? Or Kelsey.

    I had a tour guide job about 10 years ago and Rhea Perlman showed up with her family. I remember I was a bit annoyed that my relief hadn't yet shown for me to clock out at the end of the day, and she was in my last tour. No one seemed to recognize her.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    eheh, Ted Dawson for villain. Or maybe when Bond enters Mi6 everyone shouts: Boooonnnd!
    Damn, I miss Cheers.

    LOL! I was going to post something similar.
    I was also thinking it would be funny if Fukunaga brought Priscilla Barnes back to Bond for B25.

    eheh, yes.
    Come to think of it, Woody Harrelson has been a surprise for the last couple of years. Maybe he could have some small role? Or Kelsey.

    I had a tour guide job about 10 years ago and Rhea Perlman showed up with her family. I remember I was a bit annoyed that my relief hadn't yet shown for me to clock out at the end of the day, and she was in my last tour. No one seemed to recognize her.

    She's a classic 80's character actress. I find it sad that her husband gets little to no recognition these days. Danny DeVito is awesome and always has been. Just the other day I laughed out loud when I saw The Kominsky Method trailer and heard Michael Douglas - his life long pal - say he had a strange doctor stick a finger up his @**, and then DeVito showed up getting his glove on. Classic.

    That being said, anyone ever thought about taking the name "**" here on the forums? Cause every time anyone would want to evoque their name it would turn up as @**. Ok, ok, I'm that childish, so sue me, it's Wednesday ;)

    Back on topic. Cary has his name because of Cary Grant? Really? Didn't know. Still haven't heard a bad thing about the fella.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Why haven't bond smoke any cigar lately especially after die another day. Can we get to see that in bond25
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    If Logan is allowed to smoke, I can't see any reason why Bond shouldn't.

    If smoking is "not cool", then why is every Sherlock Holmes adaptation in the recent years has the character being a drug addict? I suppose that's healthier and cooler than smoking, no? (sarcasm)
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    B25 should end with Tim Dalton waking up and realising the last 25 years were all a dream.
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    Why haven't bond smoke any cigar lately especially after die another day. Can we get to see that in bond25
    Yes, please.
    Getafix wrote: »
    B25 should end with Tim Dalton waking up and realising the last 25 years were all a dream.

    I'd be one happy fan. Guy should've been Bond for the last 30 years.
    If Logan is allowed to smoke, I can't see any reason why Bond shouldn't.
    If smoking is "not cool", then why is every Sherlock Holmes adaptation in the recent years has the character being a drug addict? I suppose that's healthier and cooler than smoking, no? (sarcasm)

    Exactly! And he does smoke his pipe on the special victorian episode.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Univex wrote: »
    If Logan is allowed to smoke, I can't see any reason why Bond shouldn't.
    If smoking is "not cool", then why is every Sherlock Holmes adaptation in the recent years has the character being a drug addict? I suppose that's healthier and cooler than smoking, no? (sarcasm)
    Exactly! And he does smoke his pipe on the special victorian episode.
    Precisely!
  • I’m really fascinated what is happening with the production now. Surely there are not enough hours in the day for Fukunaga to put this together.

    He’ll need to:
    ⚫ Re-write the script.
    ⚫ Work on the overall design of the film and shape it to his vision (production design, cinematography and music)
    ⚫ The action and special effects sequence requires huge amounts of prep
    ⚫ Location scouting around the world
    ⚫ Casting the film

    That’s probably the tip of the iceberg, especially considering all the bureaucratic details with producers, studios, budgets, etc. The planning on these productions is huge. I guess they’d have been in a similar position with Boyle (especially since he only formally joined after finishing the Beatles film). But he still had a 5/6 month headstart on Fukunaga.

    I also disagree that the director should just shoot the script. I want to see an artistic vision of a filmmaker working in concert with others. I love film and the last thing I want is an anonymous homogeneous product. Why would I waste my time watching that when there are a ton of other films with personality I’d rather watch.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Univex wrote: »
    Back on topic. Cary has his name because of Cary Grant? Really? Didn't know. Still haven't heard a bad thing about the fella.
    Yep, his mum was a big fan and he grew up watching all of his films. He used to send gifs of Grant to people from his phone rather than texts, so I'm assuming he likes him too. I can see shades of Grant in his elegant style and I really hope it flows into the film.
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    My guess @Pierce2Daniel is that Fukunaga was chosen and took the job because he's used to making TV productions on tight turnarounds and liked the challenge of applying this knowledge to a movie. Some people thrive and work better under pressure and such constraints. It's not for everybody, but I'm sure Fukunaga is more than capable of delivering the goods. Even Idris Elba states: "When he’s looking down the iris of the lens,” Elba says, “he can spot things, his intuition takes his eye and he can adapt right on the spot.”

    The real test will be whether Eon can let go and let Fukunaga be Fukunaga, trusting his instincts and his process when it comes down to the actual shooting of the script. I'm sure they know what they are taking on, as does Fukunaga, so I'm expecting something very interesting and special at the end of it. As for location scouting and prepping the stunts, Bond productions are famous for having a huge roster of experts that specialise in all these fields. On a smaller budget it might be a concern, but with the money behind B25, it'll be business as usual. Music is the least of their concerns right now. Barry used to only get a couple of weeks to score and produce the soundtrack in post-production, sometimes less. Casting will only be a problem if they're chasing a big-name actor for a key role and he or she isn't available. Again, sometimes these last-minute replacements or second choices can work out for the best. Think Eric Stoltz replaced by Michael J. Fox in Back To The Future; Stuart Townsend replaced by Viggo Mortensen in LOTR; Harvey Keitel in Apocalypse Now; Michael Biehn for James Remmer in Aliens, even Diana Rigg for Brigitte Bardot in OHMSS, the list goes on and on.
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    Not too worried about Cary's process or workload. Likely challenging, yes -- but exciting at the same time!

    He will have had a 5-month pre-production window from announcement to the start of shooting (at least). Not a "fat" Bond schedule by any means, but far from a rush job.

    Neal and Rob are also (presumably) still working with him on the script, so he won't need to carry that burden alone. And he'll have the flexibility to be as hands-on with as he likes, I'm assuming. Supported, but not restricted.

    I'd also assume there's some inherent agreement in the (already developed) overall concept between him and the producers, or else he wouldn't have signed on. So he'll certainly be creating his 'vision', but not from scratch.

    It's a unique situation, but the precise purpose of delaying production by 3 months was to allow for it.
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    I also disagree that the director should just shoot the script. I want to see an artistic vision of a filmmaker working in concert with others. I love film and the last thing I want is an anonymous homogeneous product. Why would I waste my time watching that when there are a ton of other films with personality I’d rather watch.
    I agree, completely.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Back on topic. Cary has his name because of Cary Grant? Really? Didn't know. Still haven't heard a bad thing about the fella.
    Yep, his mum was a big fan and he grew up watching all of his films. He used to send gifs of Grant to people from his phone rather than texts, so I'm assuming he likes him too. I can see shades of Grant in his elegant style and I really hope it flows into the film.

    Now that you mention it, I can see it too. And lucky him for having parents with good taste ;)
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    bondsum wrote: »
    My guess @Pierce2Daniel is that Fukunaga was chosen and took the job because he's used to making TV productions on tight turnarounds and liked the challenge of applying this knowledge to a movie. Some people thrive and work better under pressure and such constraints. It's not for everybody, but I'm sure Fukunaga is more than capable of delivering the goods. Even Idris Elba states: "When he’s looking down the iris of the lens,” Elba says, “he can spot things, his intuition takes his eye and he can adapt right on the spot.”

    The real test will be whether Eon can let go and let Fukunaga be Fukunaga, trusting his instincts and his process when it comes down to the actual shooting of the script. I'm sure they know what they are taking on, as does Fukunaga, so I'm expecting something very interesting and special at the end of it. As for location scouting and prepping the stunts, Bond productions are famous for having a huge roster of experts that specialise in all these fields. On a smaller budget it might be a concern, but with the money behind B25, it'll be business as usual. Music is the least of their concerns right now. Barry used to only get a couple of weeks to score and produce the soundtrack in post-production, sometimes less. Casting will only be a problem if they're chasing a big-name actor for a key role and he or she isn't available. Again, sometimes these last-minute replacements or second choices can work out for the best. Think Eric Stoltz replaced by Michael J. Fox in Back To The Future; Stuart Townsend replaced by Viggo Mortensen in LOTR; Harvey Keitel in Apocalypse Now; Michael Biehn for James Remmer in Aliens, even Diana Rigg for Brigitte Bardot in OHMSS, the list goes on and on.

    Dalton replacing Brosnan in 87.
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    Just reading MWTGG at present. I would love a brainwashed Bond sent to assassinate M.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    A plot to take out M has been overdone for the moment. Give it an absence for sometime. 15 years at least and half a dozen of films in between. At least.
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
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    The one thing I do not want fukunaga to include in bond 25 which is a trademark of his is a child dying it just seems too depressing even by craig bond standards.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    The one thing I do not want fukunaga to include in bond 25 which is a trademark of his is a child dying it just seems too depressing even by craig bond standards.

    I doubt that will happen. Children have rarely seen screen time in a Bond film. The only notable one is the boy in the boat in TMWTGG. Off the top of my head, I believe that is the only child in a Bond film with a speaking part. The only other kids are extras on beaches, most notably the kids chasing Solange on the horse in CR.
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    A plot to take out M has been overdone for the moment. Give it an absence for sometime. 15 years at least and half a dozen of films in between. At least.

    Amen to that !!

    +1
  • barryt007 wrote: »
    A plot to take out M has been overdone for the moment. Give it an absence for sometime. 15 years at least and half a dozen of films in between. At least.

    Amen to that !!

    +1

    I’m personally not interested in them overplaying the MI6 card in Bond 25.

    Pretty much all the recent ideas have been derivative of one another. ‘There’s a mole!’, ‘M and MI6 is under attack!’, blah blah blah.

    We’ve seen it countless times. By all means incorporate M, Q and Moneypenny and give them something to do. Just don’t rehash the same beats.

    One of the joys of CR was how it found a way to include M in the story more but to strip down and focus on her relationship with Bond. It was there we saw the odd surrogate son/mother relationship come together.

    There is clearly ways to include these characters without being clichéd or repetitive.

    Surely there is an interesting angle to play in the fact that Bond and M are contemporaries in the armed service. That could make a good scene of them speaking.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    One of the joys of CR was how it found a way to include M in the story more but to strip down and focus on her relationship with Bond. It was there we saw the odd surrogate son/mother relationship come together.
    To be honest, I felt this throughout Dench's tenure, including during the Brosnan years. There was always something a bit motherly about her, even though they only acknowledged it more formally starting with QoS.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited October 2018 Posts: 2,541
    If Logan is allowed to smoke, I can't see any reason why Bond shouldn't.

    If smoking is "not cool", then why is every Sherlock Holmes adaptation in the recent years has the character being a drug addict? I suppose that's healthier and cooler than smoking, no? (sarcasm)

    Exactly
  • Less MI6 at this point would probably be more. Would be interesting, though, if Fukunaga was able to fit in a mystery surrounding Q's cats. Just for a bit a synergy from Spectre.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Getafix wrote: »
    B25 should end with Tim Dalton waking up and realising the last 25 years were all a dream.

    I wish, Timonthy is my all time favorite bond. His eyes screams Bond..James Bond but as M said and I quote- We are not now that strength which in old days moved Earth and heaven.
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