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I think there are a fair number of hardcore fans and members of the broader public who feel that way as well. Of course not all. Ultimately it's a matter of deftly balancing the violence and danger with a bit of the bon vivant, and the trick is for it to come across onscreen 'naturally' and 'not acted'.
Only he didn’t criticize Craig, on the contrary he praised him.
Their reactions are testament to what FrankXavier stated.
Precisely. It's as though some people are deliberately trying to feel offended by things that have neither remotely been said nor implied.
Craig Bond is my 2nd favourite after King Connery BUT he's the most dour and most miserable Bond of all 6 incarnations of the character. Bond is supposed to be the man all men want to be and Craig Bond would be at the bottom of my list in terms of which Bond I'd like to be. I mean for crying out loud he quit the secret service in every Bond outing he's been in bar QoS where he went "rogue". Now look at his predecessors, they were swanning around the world like they owned it, getting up to all kinds of life threatening trouble and more or less having the time of their life as they did it.
Bingo.
With clever, intelligent writing, and the right actor, there is no reason both can’t be achieved.
The ideal films manage to be a bit of both. OHMSS shows us a Bond having great fun, while experiencing the most dramatic conclusion of the series.
Certainly. Wasn’t really my point, though. No one wants the same Bond film every time.
I understand your well made point but it sparked a thought.
Cool. I get that.
-I dig Cary's admiration for AVTAK too. A power couple in the mode of Zorin and May Day would be great to see.
-“As in any story, a character has to change in order [to have] a narrative.” True for most good stories, though for the most part, apart from Craig's era and a few others (OHMSS most notably) Bond really doesn't change throughout each story. It's just about the thrills and the escapist adventure. He's largely a static hero in the films.
-True, could go in any number of directions. I do like the idea that Craig's last film may have some connection to CR though. If the film turns out great that should really give a nice sense of closure to his era.
-I feel Cary is just being diplomatic in the interview here. I don't think there's any real indication of Waltz's return or even that they're considering it.
-I'm feeling (and hoping) that Cary is going to really deliver what they said they were going for with Spectre: a grand Bond film in the traditional mode.
SP would indeed have been a very different film and I really wish that's the direction they would have gone. As far back as when CR first came out, especially that scene with White standing there and looking down upon Bond cradling dead Vesper, I felt like they were setting White up to possibly be his Blofeld (if in nature only). They so easily could have turned White into a fantastic ESB, it's probably one of the series' greatest lost opportunities that they didn't.
Sounds good to me!
M:I 6 wasn't too great of a film apart from some of the action, but it may just be that as with Mendes and SP, McQuarrie had spent too much of himself on Rogue Nation.
Yes, variety has been the key to Bond's success over the years.
And we all have our preferences in the type of Bond we want.
Yes please.
1. GE
2. SF
3. CR
4. TND
5. TWINE
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6. DAD
7. SP
8. QOS
#6 is where the “bad” films begin but I honestly have an easier time forgiving DAD and QOS because those were never intended to be “great” films. I can just throw them in the bin somewhere as lesser Bonds. SP, however, was such a grand production with so much expectation (especially with Mendes returning) that it’s especially painful to see it become such a failure. It’s one of those films that you don’t want to throw in a bin somewhere because you can see some real talent behind the camera and a few really cool scenes, but on the whole you realize this film is a total mess and is no better than laser satellites in space, invisible cars, and glacier surfing.
@Resurrection right here
https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/78/bond-movie-ranking-simple-list-no-details#latest
We can't avoid off topic chat here, but some things really do belong in their own threads. Ranking the Bonds is one of them.
Thank you I'll do my soon.
You could argue he went against protocol when he took M with him to Skyfall, but M herself was ok with it anyway.
So IMO they'll have him take on a mission but there will be some "hook" to it.
I just want less melodramatic and more hardcore bond which was missing for quite some time.
Probably more than that, given her history with Fukunaga.