No Time To Die: Production Diary

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    So I haven't been on here for quite some time. Just want to check Bond 25 is still on track for February 2020?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    So I haven't been on here for quite some time. Just want to check Bond 25 is still on track for February 2020?
    Yup.
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    Tuxedo wrote: »
    I don't know anything about these sort of things but I guess being used to making things look good even on a small screen is something that could come to mind.
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    In other news, Jon Mallard has joined Bond 25 as the First Assistant Director
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0539883/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr11

    He's a long time fixture of Fukunaga's team. He worked with the director on True Detective, Beasts of No Nation and Manaic (he was also the Producer of the latter).

    It seems that despite the anxiety on discussion boards, the film is moving forward behind the scenes.

    The question now is whether other long time Fukunaga crew members will begin to get announced.

    Interestingly, as with CJF, he has a lot of experience working in television.

    For those who knows these sorts of things: what would be the advantage of people with television background working on B25? Being used to working on schedule and tighter budgets of course, but what else?

    Efficiency would be the key thing, I would say. Especially in HOD roles. Beyond that, I guess it comes down to the individual. Nowadays the technological differences between film and TV aren't that great - they're just utilised differently.

    I'd say there'd be an even greater difference between someone like Fukanaga (who had directed film before True Detective) and someone involved in a long running television series. I guess Mallard fits all the criteria, having worked a bit on all three different types of production - film, event series, and long running shows.

    Most of my experience comes from production management on micro-budget indie films, studio entertainment shows and drama, and I've only been doing it for ten years, so I'm just giving my own best guess here. Someone like @peter or @ColonelSun might feel differently.
    peter wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    In other news, Jon Mallard has joined Bond 25 as the First Assistant Director
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0539883/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr11

    He's a long time fixture of Fukunaga's team. He worked with the director on True Detective, Beasts of No Nation and Manaic (he was also the Producer of the latter).

    It seems that despite the anxiety on discussion boards, the film is moving forward behind the scenes.

    The question now is whether other long time Fukunaga crew members will begin to get announced.

    Interestingly, as with CJF, he has a lot of experience working in television.

    For those who knows these sorts of things: what would be the advantage of people with television background working on B25? Being used to working on schedule and tighter budgets of course, but what else?

    When news broke that EoN were looking at some TV directors, @ColonelSun had some interesting points: these guys and gals are exceptionally talented, working on tight budgets and schedules, putting everything onto the screen in a timely fashion.

    I also would add that they're exceptionally creative visually with the means at hand. As some on this forum have noted time and again, especially @Shardlake , some of the best work is now happening on TV.

    CF is the cream of the crop as a visual story-teller, and I sincerely think he will be giving this franchise a very unique story and look...

    Thanks – good points from all of you! I don't know about Boyle, but with Fukunaga and other people with a TV production background joining the production – could that mean a more limited budget and/or less bigger sets, etc.?

    The budget didn't do SP any favours, so a tighter budget would be very welcome, IMO.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @Torgeirtrap , it's still a Bond film, so, for someone like CF, he'll have a lot of $$$ to play with, more than he's ever had, but... I sense that this will be a tighter budget for a Bond film.

    And there will be set pieces, but I also am imagining something that relies more on creativity than it does on blowing the action budget.
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    peter wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap , it's still a Bond film, so, for someone like CF, he'll have a lot of $$$ to play with, more than he's ever had, but... I sense that this will be a tighter budget for a Bond film.

    And there will be set pieces, but I also am imagining something that relies more on creativity than it does on blowing the action budget.

    Oh, I certainly meant a tighter budget for a Bond film – and not in film or TV in general. Do hope you'll be right about them relying more on creativity than blowing (up) the action budget. The smaller action scenes (about every train fight comes to mind) have always been great, I feel.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I hope so too @Torgeirtrap ... And agreed, tighter more contained action is very exciting and gets the heart racing. Even the parkour sequence in CR wasn't expensive (a chase through a construction site that leads to an embassy), but its execution was ingenious. I have a (unjustified) feeling that we are in for more of this, rather than snow-planes and record-breaking explosions.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    One thing that pisses me off is the constant “Who will play Bond next??”

    Idris Elba will never be Bond he’d be in his 50s by the time he could smh. Damn media!

    It’s Craig’s last film give him some respect and stop talking about replacements.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 17,753
    peter wrote: »
    I hope so too @Torgeirtrap ... And agreed, tighter more contained action is very exciting and gets the heart racing. Even the parkour sequence in CR wasn't expensive (a chase through a construction site that leads to an embassy), but its execution was ingenious. I have a (unjustified) feeling that we are in for more of this, rather than snow-planes and record-breaking explosions.

    I hope you hunch is right about that we're in for more of this. The parkour sequence is a brilliant example too (parkour was getting very popular around that time, I think), and one could argue that it's one of the best action sequences in the Craig era.
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    The rumour about Craig wanting his own FRWL has probably been the most encouraging rumour about BOND 25 so far. I am really hoping that the real reason Boyle left was not that he wanted a smaller budget than EON did, and that they really are planning to make this the smallest Bond film in a long time.
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    One thing that pisses me off is the constant “Who will play Bond next??”

    Idris Elba will never be Bond he’d be in his 50s by the time he could smh. Damn media!

    It’s Craig’s last film give him some respect and stop talking about replacements.

    Amen. It’s interesting to consider who might be Bond next, but the primary focus should be Bond 25 until it’s released. We’re still so far from Bond 26 (no earlier than 2022, probably more like 23/24/25).
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    What is strange is I am usually the one who loves rumors and discussing them so I can relate to pancho but I dunno probably because it’s the last Craig film that with each rumor I know it’s the last villain rumor or title rumor so I am a bit meloncoloy with this one I felt the same way with the dark knight rises.

    Personally I am happy and have plenty going on in my real life (a Batman style fitness regiment finding a new job and being able to give my current job a “farewell to arms” turning 32 being married my various retrospectives and of course training to be a better man all of this is what has taken up much of my time. Don’t get me wrong I love forums and debating rumors but I am just as fine with the down time
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    I'm tired of hearing there working on the script nonsense. They should have had a complete fully polished script ready for craig in August 2017. I think they kept pivoting and couldnt decide the type of film they wanted to make
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I'm tired of hearing there working on the script nonsense. They should have had a complete fully polished script ready for craig in August 2017. I think they kept pivoting and couldnt decide the type of film they wanted to make

    Now they do. And story comes first, especially with this filmmaker.
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    Yes, I do prefer he has his go with the script. Brilliant filmmaker, but a good writer as well. And he wouldn't film a ridiculous story with camp dialogue. So let the man do his job.
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    Agreed. Scripts sometimes come and go, and with Boyle/Hodge leaving and Cary coming in, it’s just the way it is for Bond 25. I think it’s better for Cary to work with a new script rather than direct whatever leftovers there are. It will result in a stronger film.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    "Working on the script" doesn't mean they're finishing it up, could literally mean polishing up some dialogue.
  • RC7RC7
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    The rumour about Craig wanting his own FRWL has probably been the most encouraging rumour about BOND 25 so far. I am really hoping that the real reason Boyle left was not that he wanted a smaller budget than EON did, and that they really are planning to make this the smallest Bond film in a long time.

    Surely that depends on how you define ‘small’? If a story has emotional impact it can feel ‘big’, regardless of locales, stunts etc.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    The rumour about Craig wanting his own FRWL has probably been the most encouraging rumour about BOND 25 so far. I am really hoping that the real reason Boyle left was not that he wanted a smaller budget than EON did, and that they really are planning to make this the smallest Bond film in a long time.

    Surely that depends on how you define ‘small’? If a story has emotional impact it can feel ‘big’, regardless of locales, stunts etc.

    This is very true. And most common in brilliant theatre pieces spent in only one room, and yet, they are huge in scope.
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    One thing that pisses me off is the constant “Who will play Bond next??”

    Idris Elba will never be Bond he’d be in his 50s by the time he could smh. Damn media!

    It’s Craig’s last film give him some respect and stop talking about replacements.

    That bothers me as well as if the media is just aching to get Craig out of here.
    What also bothers me is that, since this will be the 2nd longest gap in the series, this film should really jump start the franchise again, the way GOLDENEYE did. However, that's not the feeling I'm getting with this one considering it's most likely Craig's last.
    That leads me to feel there will be an even much longer gap after B25.

    So the "who will play Bond next" the media keeps bringing up is almost pointless as that seems still quite a long time away.
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    Understanding Christopher Nolan's thinking is the key to figuring out who will play Bond next.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Understanding Christopher Nolan's thinking is the key to figuring out who will play Bond next.

    It’ll be someone who is between 25-30 right now. The media is rolling with people who are 35-50 which is stupid considering Craig’s last film comes out in 2020. Next film after that will most likely be 3-5 years after. So anyone the media picks will be 40-57 lmao.

    They are so dumb they don’t realize that they don’t cast guys who are already in the last Bond film age. They cast guys who are in their mid to late 30s and they do 3+ films typically..
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    What’s Nolan got to do with it? ;)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Understanding Christopher Nolan's thinking is the key to figuring out who will play Bond next.

    It’ll be someone who is between 25-30 right now. The media is rolling with people who are 35-50 which is stupid considering Craig’s last film comes out in 2020. Next film after that will most likely be 3-5 years after. So anyone the media picks will be 40-57 lmao.

    They are so dumb they don’t realize that they don’t cast guys who are already in the last Bond film age. They cast guys who are in their mid to late 30s and they do 3+ films typically..

    Yep, as I’ve said, you don’t need a traffic light to be free when you’re a block away.
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    Understanding Christopher Nolan's thinking is the key to figuring out who will play Bond next.

    He isn’t directing Bond 26
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Understanding Christopher Nolan's thinking is the key to figuring out who will play Bond next.

    He isn’t directing Bond 26
    Not letting him direct and write Bond 26 is such an insane notion that this option is not even worth considering. I am often trolling in this forum, but this time I'm 100% serious.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited November 2018 Posts: 8,216
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Understanding Christopher Nolan's thinking is the key to figuring out who will play Bond next.

    He isn’t directing Bond 26
    Not letting him direct and write Bond 26 is such an insane notion that this option is not even worth considering. I am often trolling in this forum, but this time I'm 100% serious.

    It's too late, the wolves have already eaten.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 6,709
    I am often trolling in this forum,...

    Is this a confession, then? Noted.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Univex wrote: »
    I am often trolling in this forum,...
    Is this a confession, then? Noted.
    With a three thousand post count. None that fly. ;)
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 2,115
    //Yes it's fine when he reveals a director or a writer or maybe a rumoured cast member but to go as explicit as saying Waltz was going to be Blofeld or take delight in revealing Dench was to die in Skyfall ruining genuine possible moments that would have had far more impact not knowing them is to me not necessary yet Baz gets respect here why?//

    Bamigboye didn't report that Waltz was going to be Blofeld. That was from reporters over at the Mail on Sunday, the Daily Mail's sister publication.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2845621/You-weren-t-expecting-007-BLOFELD-S-Bond-having-kittens-evil-foe-returns-double-Oscar-winner-Christoph-Waltz-tipped-play-him.html

    A website called Best for Film was the first to report that Judi Dench's M would die in Skyfall. http://bestforfilm.com/film-news/bff-world-exclusive-insanely-massive-skyfall-news/

    As for why is Bamigboye respected, a number of his scoops have been proven correct. Among them: Purvis & Wade were summoned back to rewrite SPECTRE and that Purvis & Wade were initially hired to write Bond 25 (March 2017 story, confrmed in July 2017 announcement).
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    //Yes it's fine when he reveals a director or a writer or maybe a rumoured cast member but to go as explicit as saying Waltz was going to be Blofeld or take delight in revealing Dench was to die in Skyfall ruining genuine possible moments that would have had far more impact not knowing them is to me not necessary yet Baz gets respect here why?//

    Bamigboye didn't report that Waltz was going to be Blofeld. That was from reporters over at the Mail on Sunday, the Daily Mail's sister publication.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2845621/You-weren-t-expecting-007-BLOFELD-S-Bond-having-kittens-evil-foe-returns-double-Oscar-winner-Christoph-Waltz-tipped-play-him.html

    A website called Best for Film was the first to report that Judi Dench's M would die in Skyfall. http://bestforfilm.com/film-news/bff-world-exclusive-insanely-massive-skyfall-news/

    Maybe not him personally but my point is tabloid newspapers and film/celebrity websites go out of their way to reveal spoilers that would have been better kept under wraps.

    Anyone who works for either publication isn't exactly someone I have time for anyway, without getting into their far right nonsense they are a tabloid disguised as a broadsheet, utterly vulgar and full of rubbish.

    I personally don't hang on every word of a journalist who works for them like some do.

    Also I'm pretty sure Baz was instrumental in spreading the word of both rumours whether he was the original source, most mainstream journalism concerns copy and pasting other publications stories. Why go out and look for something original when you can parrot someone elses work instead.
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