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  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,584
    boldfinger wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    An era spanning About 14 years should be more gratifying than "slightly unfulfilling". I dont´see anything admirable in that Concept.

    The length of the era is the not the admirably ambitious part.
    With such a length of time, a lot should be Pretty fulfilling.

    I'm not really quite sure what to say to this that would be any different to me repeating the comment I said above. The length of the era (be it 2 years, 4 years or 15) doesn't really hold any bearing on the quality of the content of the films themselves, which is what I was referring to. Not the concept of time, which is what you mixed in there. Does that make Lazenby's era the most fulfilling or the least fulfilling, then? Or Moore's?

    If you find it massively unfulfilling as opposed to my somewhat polite "slightly" (my issues are limited solely to SPECTRE now, I like the other three), then just say that instead of faffing about, please.

    An admirable failure is still admirable nonetheless. I used the word ambitious, not successful.

    But I guess arguments have been started over a lot less around here recently, so I digress.

    Anyway, Bond 25 is still on track. The overactive, trolling imaginations of some of the lesser folk here won't make that statement any less true until EON confirms it any other way.

    I think I know where you are coming from.

    The Craig era has been ambitious from the standpoint that we are, indeed, focusing on character more than before: background, conflicts, identity, etc. This is a huge leap forward, and a necessary one. The past four films (QoS, less so than the other three) explored Bond in Jungian terms. Those who've had a problem with that need to go back and read more on Fleming. EON made a calculated decision to dive into the wreck of Bond's psychology, and the franchise is all the better for it. SP went too far with it; but nobody can say that SP wasn't ambitious. And maybe it wasn't as bad as fans on this site think: https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-reviews/spectre-112462/

    This line from Travers' review is worth noting: "Spectre carries on Craig’s reinvention of Bond, blowing a reported $250 million budget on spectacular action without losing what’s personal." Hmmm. Food for thought.

    I'm excited for Bond 25, knowing that CF sees that film as continuing the arc.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited December 2018 Posts: 8,216
    I don't think it's overactive imaginations as much as some having a different read on the situation. I'm sure there were many who said that doubting the Nov 2019 release date was also "overactive imagination" just a few months back. That was "set in stone" as well, until it wasn't...

    Regardless of the reading of the situation, it does nobody any favours to be constantly reminding how little news we have gotten, how awful Craig looks in a part that's miles away from playing Bond, and literally counting down the days to the start of shooting with a comparison of how we'd be faring had Boyle stayed on.

    We.
    F*cking.
    Get.
    It.

    It does nothing but insert further negativity into a thread/forum that is at least attempting to stay positive.

    In short, it's fine to have doubts. Say them, share them, move on from them. Everyone will be fine with it.

    It's the constant repetition of said doubts that makes it intolerable.
    TripAces wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    An era spanning About 14 years should be more gratifying than "slightly unfulfilling". I dont´see anything admirable in that Concept.

    The length of the era is the not the admirably ambitious part.
    With such a length of time, a lot should be Pretty fulfilling.

    I'm not really quite sure what to say to this that would be any different to me repeating the comment I said above. The length of the era (be it 2 years, 4 years or 15) doesn't really hold any bearing on the quality of the content of the films themselves, which is what I was referring to. Not the concept of time, which is what you mixed in there. Does that make Lazenby's era the most fulfilling or the least fulfilling, then? Or Moore's?

    If you find it massively unfulfilling as opposed to my somewhat polite "slightly" (my issues are limited solely to SPECTRE now, I like the other three), then just say that instead of faffing about, please.

    An admirable failure is still admirable nonetheless. I used the word ambitious, not successful.

    But I guess arguments have been started over a lot less around here recently, so I digress.

    Anyway, Bond 25 is still on track. The overactive, trolling imaginations of some of the lesser folk here won't make that statement any less true until EON confirms it any other way.

    I think I know where you are coming from.

    The Craig era has been ambitious from the standpoint that we are, indeed, focusing on character more than before: background, conflicts, identity, etc. This is a huge leap forward, and a necessary one. The past four films (QoS, less so than the other three) explored Bond in Jungian terms. Those who've had a problem with that need to go back and read more on Fleming. EON made a calculated decision to dive into the wreck of Bond's psychology, and the franchise is all the better for it. SP went too far with it; but nobody can say that SP wasn't ambitious. And maybe it wasn't as bad as fans on this site think: https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-reviews/spectre-112462/

    This line from Travers' review is worth noting: "Spectre carries on Craig’s reinvention of Bond, blowing a reported $250 million budget on spectacular action without losing what’s personal." Hmmm. Food for thought.

    I'm excited for Bond 25, knowing that CF sees that film as continuing the arc.

    Thank you, @TripAces

    That is what I was alluding to and you expanded on it nicely.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Was anybody really expecting a straightforward Bond film from Fukunaga? He's not that kind of director to begin with. He's all about character depth. The only difference between him and Mendes is that this guy knows how to pull off action scenes with believability while his predecessor couldn't, which is as evident as the sun rising from the east.

    Fukunaga's film will be as straightforward as QoS, if it were to be "straightforward". One also shouldn't read too much into that "arc" thing. All he meant was that it was going to continue the timeline established in CR, lightly keeping in touch with the previous four films while being its own thing. Why are you lot thinking it's going to be a continuation of the prior melodrama?

    +1
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    echo wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Know this already...

    Bond 25 Will Follow 'Casino Royale' Story Arc, Says Cary Fukunaga

    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/bond-25-will-follow-casino-royale-story-arc-says-cary-fukunaga/ar-BBQit0V?ocid=ientp

    The headline is "story arc" but Fukunaga's quote is "character arc." There's a big difference.

    As an example, in B25 Bond could be dealing with the aftermath of his relationship with Swann without having extended scenes or plotlines with her or Blofeld. That's character.

    It doesn't bother me that he talks about Bond's vulnerability. Craig is best in those moments so he should go for that. CR did the best in balancing Bond's vulnerability and joie-de-vivre, SF second-best. I hope they find that balance again.

    Exactly. 4 years wait could be a bless as much as I hate to admit. Aftermath of Swann and Blofeld leaving bond on standalone film. Even if CF tie up loose ends of 4 films in 10-15 mins duration would it matter more than SP which uses half of it to tie up the 1st three films.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2018 Posts: 23,883
    I don't take too much from Fukunaga's comments. There is as much ambiguity in his remarks as anything else. I think we have to wait for more clarity on what direction they are taking with this film, and if they are on track we're likely to know more by early next year.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I don't think it's overactive imaginations as much as some having a different read on the situation. I'm sure there were many who said that doubting the Nov 2019 release date was also "overactive imagination" just a few months back. That was "set in stone" as well, until it wasn't...

    Exactly.

    Nothing since the change of director indicates a delay, so overactive imaginations are fearing a delay based on something that happened in the past; this would be like being on a cruise and anticipating the ship striking an iceberg because it happened to the Titanic.
    Nothing at this point even hints at s second delay.
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    3 more months to go before filming. Hopefully 1 or 2 before some big news.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited December 2018 Posts: 8,216
    talos7 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I don't think it's overactive imaginations as much as some having a different read on the situation. I'm sure there were many who said that doubting the Nov 2019 release date was also "overactive imagination" just a few months back. That was "set in stone" as well, until it wasn't...

    Exactly.

    Nothing since the change of director indicates a delay, so overactive imaginations are fearing a delay based on something that happened in the past; this would be like being on a cruise and anticipating the ship striking an iceberg because it happened to the Titanic.
    Nothing at this point even hints at s second delay.

    Absolutely nada. You're quite right @talos7

    I mean, it's extremely strange to see Fukanaga and his work be praised on the one hand by people, yet the same people on the other have been constantly nipping about there being delays and that certain people should resign and the fans deserve better etc.

    Fukanaga has been very openly talking about the film recently and specifically things he wants to bring to it. He is a fairly sizeable name and undoubtedly will have things to bring to the table. He's not just going to be sitting there, on his hands, waiting for a phonecall. He's going to be active in prep and seems fairly genuine. He pays strong attention to detail, is steadfast in his creativity, and was certainly a surprise choice after Boyle (for me at least).

    If there were to be any hickups, do you really think he wouldn't have hinted at it yet? Or that they would have announced the start date of shooting if they weren't 100% sure?

    Have a bit of faith in the praise that you've been giving to the director. It is warranted praise, and it's that praise that gives me confidence in the film's production.

    Sheeeeeesh.
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    I'm half expecting the next announcement to be that Bond 25 has been delayed until June 2020. It's hard to see how they have enough time on the current schedule.
    If that happens I’m afraid Barbara Broccoli will have to resign.

    Does she? Who decides that then?
    The Movie Godz.
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    Check out Brosnan in this new advert for TV. He looks very good in it.


    Lol! Love it, Brozza still looks good in a tuxedo!


    I think Blofeld will feature in the next one but on a much smaller scale.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    The Brozz does look very good there. I like the nod to MI (or is that FRWL?) in that ad.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Definitely M:I.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Check out Brosnan in this new advert for TV. He looks very good in it.


    99% of that entire ad was more Bond than the entirety of SP.
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    Check out Brosnan in this new advert for TV. He looks very good in it.


    I love it! Got some Man Who Haunted Himself/ Mission Impossible vibes from it.

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    Check out Brosnan in this new advert for TV. He looks very good in it.


    He's a fine looking dude.
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    Posts: 1,261
    Guys, don't let PanchitoPistols upset you. He does this, because he likes your/our emotional reactions towards his postings. And he succeeds in doing so. Just calm down and relax. We probably will learn more in January.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,584
    Guys, don't let PanchitoPistols upset you. He does this, because he likes your/our emotional reactions towards his postings. And he succeeds in doing so. Just calm down and relax. We probably will learn more in January.

    Agreed and we'll get some clarity once DC is done with knives out
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    I'm half expecting the next announcement to be that Bond 25 has been delayed until June 2020. It's hard to see how they have enough time on the current schedule.
    If that happens I’m afraid Barbara Broccoli will have to resign.

    Does she? Who decides that then?
    The Movie Godz.

    Who are "The Movie Godz"?
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    Linus Sandgren (La La Land and First Man) is apparently the DOP-

  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,632
    Alas, some actual news for B25! His website shows some of the work he's done (with screenshots). He looks like a good choice for DOP, following Hoytema and Deakins.
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    That is a good choice. Deakins of course would have been my #1 choice but this still makes me happy.
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    antovolk wrote: »
    Linus Sandgren (La La Land and First Man) is apparently the DOP-


    From one Swedish (or at least part Swedish) DOP to another!
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    If true, a very fine choice. How credible is this Tapley guy?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    If true, a very fine choice. How credible is this Tapley guy?

    Very - he's one of Variety's most respected reporters.
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    antovolk wrote: »
    Linus Sandgren (La La Land and First Man) is apparently the DOP-


    That's a STUNNING choice. Hot off First Man, which was one of the most visually inventive and arresting things I've seen in recent memory. Can't wait.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,216
    antovolk wrote: »
    Linus Sandgren (La La Land and First Man) is apparently the DOP-


    Fabulous choice. Loved First Man.
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    We shouldn't discount La La Land, either. I think that was an incredibly difficult story to pull off in a modern context -- and not only did they achieve that remarkably, but the photography was a huge element of the film's mastery of its own tone.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    I know nothing about him, but I am happy to see positive reactions. Trailers for First Man looked spectacular. Very nice cinematography.
  • edited December 2018 Posts: 4,619
    antovolk wrote: »
    Linus Sandgren (La La Land and First Man) is apparently the DOP-

    I believe he is the first Oscar winning cinematographer EVER to shoot a Bond film.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 575
    Based entirely on this recent news, which I am thrilled about, what do people think about Justin Hurwitz? He seems to fit the same young creative behind the film of Cary and Linus.
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