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  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
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    Univex wrote: »
    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Take with a grain of salt.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6469437/amp/Lea-Seydoux-star-James-Bond-director-Daniel-Craig-asked-come-back.html

    Great with rumours, but don't know if this is one rumour I'd like to come true. Don't mind Lea Seydoux, but the chemistry with Craig wasn't there at all, IMO.

    Re-editing my post above, this rings entirely true. This was a very specific leak. I'd bet my house she's in 25 (for how long, who knows?); maybe she and Craig, with a new director, will have some connection? Some spark?

    If Seydoux returns, then I wonder how much part of the story the character of Madeleine Swann will have – and being the the daughter of Mr. White, if Spectre will too. My first reaction was that this might end up as some sort of revenge driven plot…

    I wonder if she gets killed off early then it sets the events of the YOLT novel into order

    Hopefully. Disappointing news imo. Want to forget that sp exists while watching bond25.

    Well it could retro inject some quality into SP...Who knows?

    Nope.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    jake24 wrote: »
    Big news. Very surprising, IMO, but not upsetting.

    I thought for sure that this would be a stand-alone story. Seydoux returning debunks that entirely. But a silver-lining (for those disappointed by this development) is that all those actors will be put to much better use with Fukunaga at the helm.

    i now put my faith in CF to make this relationship work...
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited December 2018 Posts: 17,753
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Take with a grain of salt.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6469437/amp/Lea-Seydoux-star-James-Bond-director-Daniel-Craig-asked-come-back.html

    Great with rumours, but don't know if this is one rumour I'd like to come true. Don't mind Lea Seydoux, but the chemistry with Craig wasn't there at all, IMO.

    Re-editing my post above, this rings entirely true. This was a very specific leak. I'd bet my house she's in 25 (for how long, who knows?); maybe she and Craig, with a new director, will have some connection? Some spark?

    If Seydoux returns, then I wonder how much part of the story the character of Madeleine Swann will have – and being the the daughter of Mr. White, if Spectre will too. My first reaction was that this might end up as some sort of revenge driven plot…

    I wonder if she gets killed off early then it sets the events of the YOLT novel into order

    Might be. It's easy to think along those lines.
    peter wrote: »
    EDIT: this ring entirely true. This was a leak that was given the go ahead.

    Interesting that this news bit came quite quickly after the Canada/Norway rumours. Wonder if that only raises the likelihood of the location rumours being true as well.
    peter wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Big news. Very surprising, IMO, but not upsetting.

    I thought for sure that this would be a stand-alone story. Seydoux returning debunks that entirely. But a silver-lining (for those disappointed by this development) is that all those actors will be put to much better use with Fukunaga at the helm.

    i now put my faith in CF to make this relationship work...

    Cary Fukunaga – relationship counselor!
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Looks like we are in for Shatterhand as the title
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2018 Posts: 10,591
    I have to say, I'm quite happy the filmmakers decided not to throw away Fiennes, Whishaw, and Harris just because they were used poorly last time around.

    I'm much more worried about the events of this story being propelled from what happened in SP. Most Bond fans and general audiences are done with that story.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Take with a grain of salt.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6469437/amp/Lea-Seydoux-star-James-Bond-director-Daniel-Craig-asked-come-back.html

    If true IMO we are for sure getting a direct sequel to spectre.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,626
    jake24 wrote: »
    I have to say, I'm quite happy the filmmakers decided not to throw away Fiennes, Whishaw, and Harris just because they were used poorly last time around.

    I'm much more worried about the events of this story being propelled from what happened in SP. Most Bond fans and general audiences are done with that story.

    Surprisingly, they left it more open ended then both sides realize.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Looks like we are in for Shatterhand as the title

    Yep. If me means a true adaptation of YOLT im all for it.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    Univex wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    But a silver-lining (for those disappointed by this development) is that all those actors will be put to much better use with Fukunaga at the helm.
    Oh, let's hope so.
    Just keep the scooby gang grounded. No ear devices and cell phones. No team work. No M on the field. Please!

    This
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    Cary Fukunaga – relationship counselor!

    Exactly! And this guy is great with story and character-- so here's hoping!

    I'm just pissed that @Pierce2Daniel didn't get the scoop since he was building such a great relationship with Baz.

  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Hopefully they put some sort of surprises in the story then have it be the obvious and hopefully there will be a massive battle like the old days with tons of Blofeld's goons
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited December 2018 Posts: 3,126
    Maybe Swann turns out to be hilga brant
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I find it surprising that Seydoux is returning but not Waltz (at least not that we know). If one is going to bring her back to close out the story, then surely he should return too.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,753
    peter wrote: »
    Cary Fukunaga – relationship counselor!

    Exactly! And this guy is great with story and character-- so here's hoping!

    Fingers crossed!

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    peter wrote: »
    I'm just pissed that @Pierce2Daniel didn't get the scoop since he was building such a great relationship with Baz.

    There's more rumours to post, one would imagine. @Pierce2Daniel just need to keep messaging Baz!
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    bondjames wrote: »
    I find it surprising that Seydoux is returning but not Waltz (at least not that we know). If one is going to bring her back to close out the story, then surely he should return too.

    If this is all true-- and I think a large part is-- I agree that it would only make sense for "Cuckoo" to return. Even though I heard that this particular actor was not very agreeable on set. But, if the role's been developed and it makes sense...

    Or, in an alternative universe, EoN leaks this all to Baz to lead us down the wrong path...

    I like the alternative universe better..., lol...
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,408
    peter wrote: »
    Cary Fukunaga – relationship counselor!

    Exactly! And this guy is great with story and character-- so here's hoping!

    I'm just pissed that @Pierce2Daniel didn't get the scoop since he was building such a great relationship with Baz.

    Haha - it wasn't that great. But thanks.

    This is 100% confirmed - Baz quotes Fukunaga directly in the story. Essentially, his source is Fukunaga:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6469437/Lea-Seydoux-star-James-Bond-director-Daniel-Craig-asked-come-back.html

    (Baz also confirms that Fukunaga has heavy involvement in the scripting with P&W)

    I thought Lea was a terrifically soulful performer who added a real melancholy to SP. She's a terrific actress and it's a shame that film didn't think of more things to do with her.

    Does this rumour add more weight to the Shatterhand rumours? Will she only be a small role or the leading lady? All questions the coming weeks will elaborate on. One thing is for certain, whatever Boyle's 'unique' idea was, is now entirely gone.

    Also here is a recent picture of Lea:

    Lea+Seydoux+Closing+Ceremony+71st+Annual+Cannes+rlLJlC4FIDyl.jpg
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
    Posts: 243
    So happy to hear Fiennes, Harris and Whishaw are returning but Seydoux? I really do hope she either bites the bullet or bond breaks up with her, Craig deserves a much stronger love interest. Anyway very happy things are moving along!!
  • AgentM72AgentM72
    Posts: 831
    Thanks @Pierce2Daniel.

    Lea is absolutely wonderful. She might be my favorite 007 leading lady of all time. No joke.

    And there's no "if" about this, folks. Lea is returning, so is the entire MI6 crew. Baz is Baz for a reason. This might as well be an EON release.

    Huge news, frankly.

    I'm most interested to know if this was always a key part of the Bond 25 plan (for example, was she intended to be present in Danny Boyle's version as well?) But I doubt we'll know that answer until one day, when someone tells us what Boyle's film was intended to be.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    I'm actually happy that Seydoux is back. There are many ways one could make that work in favor of a good narrative. I'm more worried about the Scooby gang.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,889
    SP might retrospectively end up being an above par Bond film if they're able to intelligently finish off the story. Like a reverse CR/QoS situation. Great news!
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    bondjames wrote: »
    I find it surprising that Seydoux is returning but not Waltz (at least not that we know). If one is going to bring her back to close out the story, then surely he should return too.
    Remember just because Waltz may not be returning doesn't mean the Blofeld character wont.
  • FrankXavierFrankXavier
    edited December 2018 Posts: 678
    Oh no, this is what I was afraid of. We're not getting a new Bond girl (or if we are it will just be a disposable one a la Luccia Sciarra), and we're probably getting Blofeld 2.0.

    Even more scary is that they're bringing her back to kill her off... I know a lot of people here are clamoring for that but the idea is cliché and predictable to me. It's not like Vesper hasn't defined this entire era (except for Skyfall I guess), why fridge another woman Bond falls in love with?

    I guess they saw MI Fallout using Rebecca Ferguson again and thought they could do the same. Difference is Ilsa Faust operated on her own so she could be integrated into any story. Not to mention she was a badass. Madeleine is one of the more forgettable Bond girls IMO, despite Seydoux being a good actress.

    I guess I should not worry about these things and trust Fukunaga to have a damn good story on his mind that doesn't feel predictable as hell.

    On a positive note, I am glad Harris, Whishaw and Fiennes are confirmed back.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited December 2018 Posts: 8,205
    BondAficionado wrote: »
    SP might retrospectively end up being an above par Bond film if they're able to intelligently finish off the story. Like a reverse CR/QoS situation. Great news!

    Bond 25 may redeem the actors, and their characters, but it won’t make SP a better film.

  • AgentM72AgentM72
    Posts: 831
    I absolutely do not understand the apprehension around those characters. At all.

    "I don't want M, Q or Moneypenny in the Bond film unless they're tied to their desks" is just a perspective I can't even begin to grasp. Genuinely, I'm at a loss. The entire point of reintroducing them the way they did in the modern era was to modernize those characters.

    And I completely agree that the SPECTRE finale makes questionable use of them, but my oh my. I'll take as much of them as EON wants to give us.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,466
    Hmm... I was hoping for a more standalone approach, but maybe they can make it work. Not going to lose too much hype over it. A YOLT adaptation could be awesome.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,889
    talos7 wrote: »
    BondAficionado wrote: »
    SP might retrospectively end up being an above par Bond film if they're able to intelligently finish off the story. Like a reverse CR/QoS situation. Great news!

    Bond 25 may redeem the actors, and their characters, but it won’t make SP a better film.

    It most certainly would for me. Ever since the first viewing I've seen it as a part 1 of 2, due to the open ending. I understand they don't owe anyone a 'part 2', but actually making a film that efficiently wraps SP up (in the PTS even) shows confidence for both films and thus strengthening the overall story.
  • 2Wint2Kidd2Wint2Kidd
    Posts: 698
    Great to see news starting to come in over the last few days.
    Would anybody be happy to see Madeline not killed off in the pts, and perhaps give her more screen time to flesh out her character. She was one of my favourite things in Spectre and I would like to learn more about her.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    Not surprised about Fiennes, Whishaw, and Harris. Not excited about Seydoux. There's a silver lining though. That article doesn't mention Rory Kinnear.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    How exciting! So happy we’re finally getting news. I realllllllly hope Waltz comes back. We didn’t get his full potential.
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    Posts: 1,261
    Well, so it will most likely be SHATTERHAND. So they can cllose up the Craig story arc. And mind you, SF was supposed to be a srtandalone Bond. Until they made Silva a Spectre agent and forced it in the CR-QOS-SP-story.
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