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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Just occurred to me; SP to B25 is the same span of time as OHMSS to TMWTGG. One Bond, two films versus three Bonds, four films. Or, SP to B25 = DN, FRWL, GF, TB, YOLT. Damned well better be up to the task.

    Yes, and isn't it also the first time we have only two Bond films in a decade soon?

    2009 - 2019 we only got Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    That really put into perspective how brutal these long breaks are.

    There may be another long break after B25 as well, so they had better deliver something special.

    I hate to say it, but it wouldn't surprise me if B25 is the only Bond film released in the 2020's.
    I hope that's not the case, though.

    I think it could be a 5 year wait after B25 while EON sell up, so they need to get this one right.

    I have serious doubts about Fukunaga on a series like this, and don't what exactly he can bring that would be beneficial. Right now, what is taking shape is that they are moving ahead with the YOLT script from P+W, with input from Fukunaga. I don't think he will have much influence on the main story beats, just finessing to his particular sensibilities. Again, I don't think he was chosen for his talents, but because he was available on short notice, and fit the bill of a director that Craig was happy with.

    I'll have what you're smoking/snorting/taking.
    Where do you get these ideas?
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    Above good director, actors, locations and crew; I pray for a good script.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    QQ7 wrote: »
    Above good director, actors, locations and crew; I pray for a good script.

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  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,412
    Cary Fukunaga confirmed to be writing and directing Bond 25; also new video interview in Variety talking about the films direction:

    I believe this is a first for a Bond film...

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/amp/

    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/?jwsource=cl
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Cary Fukunaga confirmed to be writing and directing Bond 25; also new video interview in Variety talking about the films direction:

    I believe this is a first for a Bond film...

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/amp/

    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/?jwsource=cl

    I like how smoothly he skipped over that lame attempt at starting a PC Debatte in the video interview
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    To a degree I find it rather predictable (in the context of the times) that they are reportedly including a female MI6 agent who works alongside Bond.

    I had hoped that this film would focus more on Bond, but I'm getting the sense that there are quite a lot of characters to develop properly and deal with in this one. They'll have to handle it deftly.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    bondjames wrote: »
    To a degree I find it rather predictable (in the context of the times) that they are reportedly including a female MI6 agent who works alongside Bond.

    I had hoped that this film would focus more on Bond, but I'm getting the sense that there are quite a lot of characters to develop properly and deal with in this one. They'll have to handle it deftly.
    To me, SF is very much a film focused on Bond but still tix those boxes you mentioned. It was handled deftly in that film, in SP it wasn't.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited December 2018 Posts: 9,511
    bondjames wrote: »
    To a degree I find it rather predictable (in the context of the times) that they are reportedly including a female MI6 agent who works alongside Bond.

    I had hoped that this film would focus more on Bond, but I'm getting the sense that there are quite a lot of characters to develop properly and deal with in this one. They'll have to handle it deftly.

    You're taking this from a report on casting.

    I'd suggest you instead listen to what the director said in the video posted above; that his film is trying to honour what DC has done and close his run solidly. This shows his intent more than anything, I'd say.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited December 2018 Posts: 17,821
    Have to give it to Fukunaga – he knows how to give the right answers in interviews. Always nice to hear people talking positively about A View To A Kill too. Maybe the character rumoured to be intended for Rami Malek is a modern day Max Zorin type? :-D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    peter wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    To a degree I find it rather predictable (in the context of the times) that they are reportedly including a female MI6 agent who works alongside Bond.

    I had hoped that this film would focus more on Bond, but I'm getting the sense that there are quite a lot of characters to develop properly and deal with in this one. They'll have to handle it deftly.

    You're taking this from a report on casting.

    I'd suggest you instead listen to what the director said in the video posted above; that his film is trying to honour what DC has done and close his run solidly. This shows his intent more than anything, I'd say.
    I listened to it and am quite aware of what he's trying to do, but thank you for your suggestion anyway. Nothing new there. That's the reason Craig is back anyway - he's not intending to come back to dishonour his run.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Cary Fukunaga confirmed to be writing and directing Bond 25; also new video interview in Variety talking about the films direction:

    I believe this is a first for a Bond film...

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/amp/

    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/?jwsource=cl

    Why do I feel that he and others have finished with screenplay from that interview even though he didn't say anything about it.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Where did this female agent come from, apart from the early rumours on reddit? Any new source?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Just occurred to me; SP to B25 is the same span of time as OHMSS to TMWTGG. One Bond, two films versus three Bonds, four films. Or, SP to B25 = DN, FRWL, GF, TB, YOLT. Damned well better be up to the task.

    Yes, and isn't it also the first time we have only two Bond films in a decade soon?

    2009 - 2019 we only got Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    That really put into perspective how brutal these long breaks are.
    Well, in some ways it gives less to complain about.

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Univex wrote: »
    Where did this female agent come from, apart from the early rumours on reddit? Any new source?
    A recent Variety article. Everything's on the first page.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Have to give it to Fukunaga – he knows how to give the right answers in interviews. Always nice to hear people talking positively about A View To A Kill too. Maybe the character rumoured to be intended for Rami Malek is a modern day Max Zorin type? :-D

    If there's one thing i would like him to use as Inspiration from AVTAK (and there is pretty much just one thing... ok maybe the title track as well... ok and Paris as a Location) then it's a villain similar to Zorin.
    Even though Skyfall did a pretty good job at that already.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Resurrection wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Cary Fukunaga confirmed to be writing and directing Bond 25; also new video interview in Variety talking about the films direction:

    I believe this is a first for a Bond film...

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/amp/

    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/?jwsource=cl

    Why do I feel that he and others have finished with screenplay from that interview even though he didn't say anything about it.

    I would agree with you-- or at least it's ready enough that they're casting and looking at locking down locations.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    peter wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Cary Fukunaga confirmed to be writing and directing Bond 25; also new video interview in Variety talking about the films direction:

    I believe this is a first for a Bond film...

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/amp/

    https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-lea-seydoux-1203084117/?jwsource=cl

    Why do I feel that he and others have finished with screenplay from that interview even though he didn't say anything about it.

    I would agree with you-- or at least it's ready enough that they're casting and looking at locking down locations.

    If they've more or less finished the screenplay already, they're really well on track. Hope we'll get more rumours and/or news throughout the month.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    You know there is a way to have your cake and eat it too

    I wrote this idea a year and a half ago but if I were to do Bond 25 based on what everyone is saying the inky way I can appease the a majority of fans and not have the revenge film (though in my opinion it what Craig does best but so be it)

    Pts would be a nightmare of Blofield trying to kill Swann and bond failing to get her


    The main plot would be Bond now retired and a diplomat working on an assignment that involves the new 007 Gala Brand through out the course of the film much like in the novel moonraker (but the roles are reversed) bond realizes he can’t lead a normal life and has to walk away from Swann in order to be the man who keeps the world safe (touch of mission impossible fallout) and so the film ends Bond is 007 again Brand is retired and Swann is gone

    To tie up further loose ends I would have Blofeld be the mastermind behind the plot Bond and Brand foil and whoever is cast as the “main” villain be a henchmen

    The plot above tics all the right boxes

    Women empowerment post me too check
    Swann is dealt with check
    No revenge plot check
    Bond is 007 again check
    The emotional arc from Casino Royale (when you do what I do for so long you don’t have a soul left to save) completed check
    Takes the stupid code name theory out back and blows its brains out check

    The only problem with my idea from my vantage point is at least one main action sequence needs to showcase Brand as a bad ass and the issue here is we come to see Bond not Brand but my guess is If Cary is on a similar wave length we should be fine as I bet he can get us to invest in Brand

    As for titling the film above honestly Either

    The Garden of Death (making bio weapons the main threat both Bond and Brand investigate)

    Or

    The Silver Phantom (as smuggling seems like something a diplomat investigating would be far more believable) and we could have a climax on a train similar to the novel the man with the golden gun
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,589
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Have to give it to Fukunaga – he knows how to give the right answers in interviews. Always nice to hear people talking positively about A View To A Kill too. Maybe the character rumoured to be intended for Rami Malek is a modern day Max Zorin type? :-D

    AVTAK is not a bad Bond film at all. It's only issue is Roger being too old and the visible stuntmen (and the Beach Boys). But overall: the film is a delight. Walken is great.

    As for Bond 25, I am rewatching True Detective. What a masterpiece. I don't think Bond fans have anything to be concerned about with CJF.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    The San Fran fire engine chase is pretty dire in AVtAK, but I agree still lots to enjoy
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited December 2018 Posts: 3,157
    jake24 wrote: »
    Rory Kinnear is NOT in the picture at this stage.

    Thank God.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2018 Posts: 10,592
    Walecs wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Rory Kinnear is NOT in the picture at this stage.

    Thank God.
    That we know of (his name wasn't mentioned in the report).
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Rory Kinnear is NOT in the picture at this stage.

    Thank God.
    That we know of (his name wasn't mentioned in the report).
    He's a card carrying member of Team "S" so I imagine he'll be back too. Just not important enough to mention I suppose.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Sadly, it’s probably just a matter of time until it happens given he’s been around since QoS. No offense to Rory, but Tanner is a dull filler character we could do without.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    Remember, without Tanner, there is no Scooby Gang, no matter how much screentime M, Moneypenny and Q get.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    An incomplete Scooby Gang. Interesting.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Imagine the Scooby Gang without Shaggy?
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I’m particularly curious to see how they implement the Bond girl(s) and villain(s) this time around, with Madeleine confirmed and two more actresses coming but no confirmation of Blofeld. I wouldn’t be surprised though if Blofeld/SPECTRE find some way to return, and the villain they’re looking to cast is a part of that. It’s also possible they may just return Madeleine and not Blofeld or SPECTRE, but I’m definitely not ruling that out.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    I would be really sad if they dropped Boyle's and Hodge's Russia angle.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Coincidentally, Fallout had three prominent actress roles as well (including mystery woman, a female agent and a previous love interest). I recall thinking there was a strong female compliment in that film, which fit in with the times.
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