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On a personal note, I would dearly love for Craig to go out on a simple, traditional Bond mission, and actually look like he is enjoying himself on occasion. The male fantasy element of Bond has all but gone in his iteration. I'm sure this won't happen, but we(I?) can wish can't we?
The 'everythings personal' schtick is staler than old bread now.
You know his name. Not you.
Would be really interesting to read this draft, which supposedly underwent some changes caused by the Sony leaks.
Oh, I see.
It certainly would. The "would-be" scripts seemed to offer some significant differences from the film we got in the end.
Can you handle a 1 week sabbatical for posting in the b25 discussion ? :)
Because some people are obsessed with b25 news and the film is over a year away so there is plenty of time to talk about it.
It will be a good challenge of self control to see who can stay away from posting in this thread for a week, and those who can't are obsessed with this thread.
I must say I´m more than a bit confused by the reactions here concerning the DoP. People don´t stop complaining About shaky cam in QoS, yet First Man feels like a third of it is shaky cam, yet I read Nothing but praise in this thread for the DoP. Overall, I find the film to be splendid-Looking, but I don´t see anything that reminds me of Bond, except a certain bleakness that was also present in the last two Bond films. Not keen on that at all for Bond.
Also the Music. There was one piece in space where I thought I´m watching Moonraker, Pt. 2, that Scene is truly amazing. But the rest of the Music doesn´t indicate anything that would qualify the Composer for Bond. Also that one track re-appears as a variation near the end, and it is rather annoying in that Scene. One great track doesn´t qualify a Composer for a whole film.
You can notice this with both La La Land and First Man. With First Man he is obviously going for a docudrama approach, so that's why the camera moves almost like in a documentary. La La Land is a throwback to old musicals but set in modern day, so that's why it's super colorful and shot in static camera and uses a lot of wide shots.
Overall I think he's a strong DOP who makes the films stand out.
Very happy to hear of M, Moneypenny and Q's return, I realise they feel the need to justify their presence with mini-sub plots but I'd rather they found a more inventive way then SP's team dynamic. It'd be better to disperse them.
Not his favorite but the first one he saw. But I agree on power couple as villan and wouldn't mind a dual henchmen like DAF.
Hopefully the Russian anti Trump bs is gone. Forget your political views for a second we hear about Russia 24/7. It’s so annoying that they would even consider doing that in a Bond film. Bond is fantasy. I don’t want a KGB/election hacking film.
What’s up with the lame plots? After Casino Royale all of the villains pretty much sucked. There’s no sense of danger and no outlandish villain bases (besides Blofelds).
Shoot adapt NightFire! I mean seriously a huge nuclear missile? End of the world, only one man can save us type story is what we want. Skyfall felt like an MI5 rip off, Spectre felt like they were trying too hard to be classic bond mixed with mission impossible.
Many of the decent to great Bond films of the past 50 years have had a Russian angle. Relic of the Cold War, and all that....
We don't know how it would have played out or how subtle / on the nose it would have been. Seems a bit much to call it BS.
Chronologically skyfall came before mi5 and more accurately mi5 is a rip-off of SP imo. We had enough of Russian angle and all that save the world. I want them to bring something new and fresh to the table.
If Bond 25 comes out in 2020, we won't get another Bond film until November 2024 at the earliest. The biggest breaks usually occured between actors leaving and taking on the role.
I think Bond 25 is the we will see for a while, so it is important that they don't c### it up, to quote Mallory.
It's looking more and more like Bond 25 will be a straight up sequel to Bond 24, and the rumoured YOLT script is in play. I suppose it makes good symmertery, as Craig started with a adaptation of the first book. YOLT was the last Bond story Fleming ever fully completed.
The idea of Putin Messing with Trump can easily be de-politicised:
M: "Someone inside Russia attempted to influence the election, 007. We cannot tolerate such an attack on our freedom. We´re meant to believe it was the Russian government. You are going to find out who it really was."
Bam, off Bond goes on an outlandish caper that leads him to some exotic Russian locale, then to Central Africa, and finally he finds an Organisation of Austrian-Bavarian poachers-turned-word-dominators hiding in a huge lair carved into the Austrian Alps :-).
Can't agree on new bond actor comes so late because next bond might be a softer reboot which won't be difficult to find like Roger after Sean so I am hoping for 2022 for bond 26 on 60th anniversary.
What is any of this based on?
What suggests this is a sequel to SP? Because Madeleine Swann is returning?
What other than fan speculation suggests that Bond 25 will be an adaptation to YOLT?
You really should back up your claims with evidence old boy.
The constant moaning about foreign meddling is really tiring, especially when many of the same people are also moaning about illegal immigrants not getting to vote.
Been waiting for that Bond film since 2006.
That would be ideal, but it's not going to happen with Craig unfortunately. We will get another dour, pretentious effort no doubt
It's not just Madders, the entire cast is back sans Waltz and we know that's likely down to a recast.
Your wish may get true now that CF on board but things will be a little personal but not like previous one's.
This is exactly what we need! And I like how you said today's music and style, not aping the past like some moments of SP.