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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    077 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Maybe he can play Bond and Madeleine s son?
    Estranged son. A great motive for a revenge plot.

    Blofeld raises him and pits him against his biological father. Now, he's known as Dr. Noah.
    You guys are funny. Rami is 37 years old, Lea is 33. While Lea can be Daniel's gf Rami can't be the villain ...? hmmmm
    Glad you find us amusing.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    He just looks like someone Craig could snap like a toothpick. I prefer villains who can be more physically imposing and a threat.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Calling Dave Bautista...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Birdleson wrote: »
    He still looks five.

    His weapon: A slingshot.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,582
    Murdock wrote: »
    He just looks like someone Craig could snap like a toothpick. I prefer villains who can be more physically imposing and a threat.

    True. But how many Bond villains were actually physically imposing? Dr. No? Goldfinger? Blofeld? Stromberg? More recently, Elliot Carver or Dominic Greene? I don't have problem with a villain who isn't physically intimidating if he is powerful via wealth and/or influence. Malek would be interesting because he'd have that "Jared Kushner" kind of adolescent slimeballishness (a new word I just made up). But that also requires a good henchman.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited December 2018 Posts: 2,541
    Murdock wrote: »
    He just looks like someone Craig could snap like a toothpick. I prefer villains who can be more physically imposing and a threat.

    Alec trevelyan ?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,392
    Murdock wrote: »
    He just looks like someone Craig could snap like a toothpick.

    Maybe in 2006...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,195
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    He just looks like someone Craig could snap like a toothpick.

    Maybe in 2006...

    .... and 2019, Just wait.

  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    TripAces wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Meanwhile in SP we got classic lines like "I'm Mickey Mouse, and you, who are you?"…

    1. Those lines weren't spoken to the villain
    2. The great line Bond delivered to the villain in SP was, "Well, get on with it then.
    Nothing can be as painful as listening to you talk." Classic.

    Hmm...I'm not sure about classic. The only amusing lines in the film where all uttered by Fiennes
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,843
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @echo
    A few months back, there was a casting of Russian villain, including male and female in brackets. Don't know how anyone else will take it, but it could be that the role is either neutral and will only go to the best suited actor/actress, or there are two villains.

    This drives to the central and crucial point….how much of the Danny Boyle/John Hodge script has been kept?

    At the moment we don’t really know if the villain will be male or female. The Variety articles talks about a ‘mysterious female’ role; this could be a fleeting cameo (like Severine or Lucia Sciarra) or perhaps the lead baddie.

    Otherwise, the three actors rumoured for a villain roles (from Boyle to Fukunaga versions) are Rami Malek, Tomasz Kot and Said Taghmaoui. None of these actors are in the Oscar-winners league we previously had in SF & SP – though Malek looks sets for a nomination this season.

    Are/were all three considered for the same role? We know from Taghmaoui that there was some internal debate at Eon whether they wanted a Middle-Eastern or a Russian character. I suspect Fukunaga decided on Middle Eastern if Malek is the frontrunner.

    Personally, I hope the new Cold War angle hasn’t been dropped – it genuinely had me pumped for Bond 25.

    Also, I’m really down for the Malek casting. He has a terrific look – that jawline, hair and eyes – and his performance in Mr robot has been consistently fantastic. He’s captivating in the same – even if series 2 and 3 weren’t as good as series 1. I’ve yet to see his Freddie Mercury.

    2017-07-gettyimages-800540930-master-1000w.jpg

    He looks like a Bond villain.

    Looks like Freddie Mercury to me
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I also wish Irma hadn’t been cut from SP. Some of things I heard about the old SP scripts were really great, like the ski scene. A shame some of the good stuff wasn’t carried over to the end product. Maybe Irma will return for 25?
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,740
    TripAces wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Meanwhile in SP we got classic lines like "I'm Mickey Mouse, and you, who are you?"…

    1. Those lines weren't spoken to the villain
    2. The great line Bond delivered to the villain in SP was, "Well, get on with it then.
    Nothing can be as painful as listening to you talk." Classic.

    Of course this wasn't lines spoken by the main villain, but there's plenty of bad dialogue in SP, that was my point.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    TripAces wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    He just looks like someone Craig could snap like a toothpick. I prefer villains who can be more physically imposing and a threat.

    True. But how many Bond villains were actually physically imposing? Dr. No? Goldfinger? Blofeld? Stromberg? More recently, Elliot Carver or Dominic Greene? I don't have problem with a villain who isn't physically intimidating if he is powerful via wealth and/or influence. Malek would be interesting because he'd have that "Jared Kushner" kind of adolescent slimeballishness (a new word I just made up). But that also requires a good henchman.
    Few villains weren't physically imposing, and among those were Stromberg, Drax, Kamal, Koskov and Carver. Dr. No was physically imposing and menacing as he did seem Bond's size. Goldfinger was also physically imposing: Bond's struggle during the climactic fight in the plane said a lot about it. Dominic Greene didn't look it too much in comparison with Craig because back then we knew Craig's Bond as this monstrous assassin hardly anyone could beat. However, Greene isn't too different from Max Zorin. He held himself pretty well against Bond in that fight. Plus, he did have that Peter Lorre-like psychotic and sadistic look, which I'd call somewhat physically imposing, if not too conventionally.

    This Marek chap doesn't look it in any possible way. Sorry to say. I'd rather they get someone like Oscar Isaac.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited December 2018 Posts: 6,275
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I also wish Irma hadn’t been cut from SP. Some of things I heard about the old SP scripts were really great, like the ski scene. A shame some of the good stuff wasn’t carried over to the end product. Maybe Irma will return for 25?

    There are few roles in the Bond series that I would not like to see recast because they were that indelible the first time around. Ilse Steppat's Irma Bunt is one of them, however.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited December 2018 Posts: 8,195
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    @echo
    A few months back, there was a casting of Russian villain, including male and female in brackets. Don't know how anyone else will take it, but it could be that the role is either neutral and will only go to the best suited actor/actress, or there are two villains.

    This drives to the central and crucial point….how much of the Danny Boyle/John Hodge script has been kept?

    At the moment we don’t really know if the villain will be male or female. The Variety articles talks about a ‘mysterious female’ role; this could be a fleeting cameo (like Severine or Lucia Sciarra) or perhaps the lead baddie.

    Otherwise, the three actors rumoured for a villain roles (from Boyle to Fukunaga versions) are Rami Malek, Tomasz Kot and Said Taghmaoui. None of these actors are in the Oscar-winners league we previously had in SF & SP – though Malek looks sets for a nomination this season.

    Are/were all three considered for the same role? We know from Taghmaoui that there was some internal debate at Eon whether they wanted a Middle-Eastern or a Russian character. I suspect Fukunaga decided on Middle Eastern if Malek is the frontrunner.

    Personally, I hope the new Cold War angle hasn’t been dropped – it genuinely had me pumped for Bond 25.

    Also, I’m really down for the Malek casting. He has a terrific look – that jawline, hair and eyes – and his performance in Mr robot has been consistently fantastic. He’s captivating in the same – even if series 2 and 3 weren’t as good as series 1. I’ve yet to see his Freddie Mercury.

    2017-07-gettyimages-800540930-master-1000w.jpg

    He looks like a Bond villain.

    Looks like Freddie Mercury to me

    Actually, he looks EXACTLY like a young Raúl Juliá

  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,604
    http://jamesbondradio.com/rumor-mill-team-bond-may-be-closer-than-we-think/

    Uh oh Spectre haters.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Scooby Gang: Britain's Finest
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    http://jamesbondradio.com/rumor-mill-team-bond-may-be-closer-than-we-think/

    Uh oh Spectre haters.
    " Add to that a growing number of online voices calling for “Fallout” writer/director Christopher McQuarrie to helm the inevitable 26th entry in the series"

    What??? Virtually nobody wants McQuarrie to helm Bond 26, because everyone knows the great Christopher Nolan would be very willing to direct that film... I HATE JamesBondRadio.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited December 2018 Posts: 17,740
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    http://jamesbondradio.com/rumor-mill-team-bond-may-be-closer-than-we-think/

    Uh oh Spectre haters.

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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    What??? Virtually nobody wants McQuarrie to helm Bond 26, because everyone knows the great Christopher Nolan would be very willing to direct that film...

    Also…
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  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    I like JBR, but they also said Tom Hiddleston was in advanced talks to replace Craig back in 2016. I wouldn't read too much into it.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited December 2018 Posts: 6,709
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    What??? Virtually nobody wants McQuarrie to helm Bond 26, because everyone knows the great Christopher Nolan would be very willing to direct that film... I HATE JamesBondRadio.

    lol. You're funny.

    Not.

    Although any one of the two would make me happy.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I feel like that article was literally written to piss off the people on this site. Wouldn’t put a lot of stock in it just yet.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Scooby Gang: Britain's Finest

    I'm sure they have some notion that no fan wants this. No one who truly loves Bond wants this. Not one. Don't they know it? Doesn't EON have a single notion of the few things that unite fans in their, well, fandom? There aren't that many:

    1) Center the film more on Bond than the service;
    2) Give it a non personal angle;
    3) Bring back some panache.

    I think ALL of us can agree on that. Don't we?

    Don't they know about this?

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Univex wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Scooby Gang: Britain's Finest
    I'm sure they have some notion that no fan wants this. No one who truly loves Bond wants this. Not one. Don't they know it? Doesn't EON have a single notion of the few things that unite fans in their, well, fandom? There aren't that many:

    1) Center the film more on Bond than the service;
    2) Give it a non personal angle;
    3) Bring back some panache.

    I think ALL of us can agree on that. Don't we?

    Don't they know about this?
    Precisely.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Also, JBR are genius! It's all reverse psychology. They just want to show EON how fans would react to it. Badly. Just take a look a the comment section. Besides, Fukunaga has read the 1946 pages of this thread and has taken his own conclusions (one of them being that he is glad PanchitoPistoles doesn't like him as much as he likes Nolan; one less restraining order to fill).
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,408
    the same writer at JBR claims Malek was offered the villain role in November but turned it down due to the scheduling issues.

    http://jamesbondradio.com/rami-malek-unlikely-to-portray-the-villain-in-bond-25-despite-casting-attempt/

    Meanwhile, Variety said they never even got to the offer stage.

    I reached out on Twitter to the author and he seems optimistic that the deal could be worked out. I'm not sure how it can as Malek is filming Mr Robot from March to December next year.

  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    edited December 2018 Posts: 12,462
    If I’m not mistaken, Variety has a better track record than JBR.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,043
    MI style Bond Team sounds like a bloody stupid idea.

    Not all of us want to take Tom Cruise in the alley and pleasure him like some I know. Can't stand the insufferable scientologist and certainly don't want his vastly overrated franchise influencing our beloved series.

    If this does happen with Bond don't think I'll be sticking around for long when it reboots.

    If you want to this kind of thing just go and see the pint sized egotists next chapter no need to go imposing this kind of thing all over Bond, thank you.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    It's all just a bloody business. It's like in the Literary world, editors don't publish quality and avant guarde literature anymore, they just cater to the brain dead readers who represent the majority of buyers. That means art is catering to audience. It's all just a product/client dynamic. Bond has been like that since 1979. It stopped being a cinema trend setter and became an imitator, and integrationist, catering to other franchises audiences, instead of making its own thing and influencing the rest. It's embarrassing. Bond is King of his own genre. Or it should be. Right now, I would even take a formulaic Bond (if done right) over all of this "female agent", "scooby gang", gunbarrel displacement, "do I look like I give a damn", kind of crap. I just want a Bond film. Go back to the source. Go back to Fleming. There's so much good material yet to use. There's so many interesting side character that have never been part of the films. There are even action/suspense scenes that were never adapted to film. Why do they have to depend on personal angles, on rogue angles,...

    I'm putting my faith on Fukunaga, but...who knows. At this point, it's all good news vs bad news vs daft rumours vs fake news... I wish we could go back to 1999 and to reading cinema magazines and real news.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Not all of us want to take Tom Cruise in the alley and pleasure him like some I know.

    Comment of the day.
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