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  • UnivexUnivex
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    Well, they do have some interesting castles in Norway.
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  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    I don't want to see any castles in Bond 25. This is James Bond, not Frozen!
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Actually, Jeremy Irons could lend his castle in Ireland.
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  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    In this Trump led world we live in we need Bond more than ever to give us hope against the megalomaniacs of this world. Also so glad Kevin Spacey was never involved in a Bond film with hindsight.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    In this Trump led world we live in we need Bond more than ever to give us hope against the megalomaniacs of this world. Also so glad Kevin Spacey was never involved in a Bond film with hindsight.
    You see him as a megalomaniac, I see him as a man doing what needs to be done. You don't see me bitching about the Obama Administration and how his awful policies brought the entire globe to its knees a lot of delusional masses paved the way in for the real threats to penetrate and execute their plans. Should I elect Obama as an evil megalomaniac being an insider?

    Thought so. Now, keep your politics out of Bond as well as this thread just like the rest of us are doing, and go get a life.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited December 2018 Posts: 17,759
    Univex wrote: »
    Well, they do have some interesting castles in Norway.
    the-fairy-tale-castle.jpg
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    That first one – Eventyrslottet (The Fairy Tale castle), is an amusement park castle opened in 1999.

    Edit: and the second one is a mansion, actually – built between 1899-1900. Gamlehaugen (as it's called), does have an interesting exterior though.

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  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    Posts: 871
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    In this Trump led world we live in we need Bond more than ever to give us hope against the megalomaniacs of this world.

    No.

  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    In this Trump led world we live in we need Bond more than ever to give us hope against the megalomaniacs of this world. Also so glad Kevin Spacey was never involved in a Bond film with hindsight.
    You see him as a megalomaniac, I see him as a man doing what needs to be done. You don't see me bitching about the Obama Administration and how his awful policies brought the entire globe to its knees a lot of delusional masses paved the way in for the real threats to penetrate and execute their plans. Should I elect Obama as an evil megalomaniac being an insider?

    Thought so. Now, keep your politics out of Bond as well as this thread just like the rest of us are doing, and go get a life.

    Yet you've just done exactly the same.

    Have you checked the windows in your glass house or checked the colour of your pot recently?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,305
    Benjamin_Weekly69 wrote: »
    I am preparing myself for a grim, relentlessly dark film. Cary being director only reinforces that. Also the least British film of the series.

    Say what you will about Skyfall and Spectre, but they were so British. Even compared to their immediate predecessors. Casino Royale felt very international and Quatum....well, QOS was just generic.

    That would be DAF:

    "Lift, or perhaps I should say [FOR OUR AMERICAN AUDIENCE, AS WE ARE BOTH OBVIOUSLY BRITISH AND TALKING ONLY TO EACH OTHER], elevator."
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Shardlake wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    In this Trump led world we live in we need Bond more than ever to give us hope against the megalomaniacs of this world. Also so glad Kevin Spacey was never involved in a Bond film with hindsight.
    You see him as a megalomaniac, I see him as a man doing what needs to be done. You don't see me bitching about the Obama Administration and how his awful policies brought the entire globe to its knees a lot of delusional masses paved the way in for the real threats to penetrate and execute their plans. Should I elect Obama as an evil megalomaniac being an insider?

    Thought so. Now, keep your politics out of Bond as well as this thread just like the rest of us are doing, and go get a life.
    Yet you've just done exactly the same.

    Have you checked the windows in your glass house or checked the colour of your pot recently?
    Have you? You seem to know the experience to come to such conclusions.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    Guys let's not use this thread to bitch about Trump, or politics in general. It only ever leads to daft arguments.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Well, they do have some interesting castles in Norway.
    the-fairy-tale-castle.jpg
    221078_6b7839af9062a3f5413007991737a9c3_large.jpg

    That first one – Eventyrslottet (The Fairy Tale castle), is an amusement park castle opened in 1999.

    Edit: and the second one is a mansion, actually – built between 1899-1900. Gamlehaugen (as it's called), does have an interesting exterior though.

    800px-GamlehaugenMainBuilding.jpg

    eheh, bad research on my part. Only a google search in fact. Damn ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,401
    Yes, politics and religoius discussions can be had elsewhere. Let's just stick to Bond around here.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited December 2018 Posts: 17,759
    Univex wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Well, they do have some interesting castles in Norway.
    the-fairy-tale-castle.jpg
    221078_6b7839af9062a3f5413007991737a9c3_large.jpg

    That first one – Eventyrslottet (The Fairy Tale castle), is an amusement park castle opened in 1999.

    Edit: and the second one is a mansion, actually – built between 1899-1900. Gamlehaugen (as it's called), does have an interesting exterior though.

    800px-GamlehaugenMainBuilding.jpg

    eheh, bad research on my part. Only a google search in fact. Damn ;)

    I could imagine a Villa La Gaeta (CR) styled scene at Gamlehaugen though.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,619
    We will very likely learn the title of Bond 25 + the cast and crew + the synopsis of the film within 65 days. (Btw, Spectre premiered 1160 days ago.)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,217
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Guys let's not use this thread to bitch about Trump, or politics in general. It only ever leads to daft arguments.

    +1

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    On the topic of Norway...

    Seeing as there's a lot of discussion on castles and snowy mountains, I'd love to see some fantastic inspiration drawn from Where Eagles Dare (which, in my opinion, is the greatest spy film ever made) involving infiltration, cable cars (also done in OHMSS), and some fantastic stealthy scenes around it. Fukunaga can make the tension work beautifully with such sequence.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    As other members have stated, please keep politics out of this thread.
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    On the topic of Norway...

    Seeing as there's a lot of discussion on castles and snowy mountains, I'd love to see some fantastic inspiration drawn from Where Eagles Dare (which, in my opinion, is the greatest spy film ever made) involving infiltration, cable cars (also done in OHMSS), and some fantastic stealthy scenes around it. Fukunaga can make the tension work beautifully with such sequence.
    This sounds incredibly intriguing.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    On the topic of Norway...

    Seeing as there's a lot of discussion on castles and snowy mountains, I'd love to see some fantastic inspiration drawn from Where Eagles Dare (which, in my opinion, is the greatest spy film ever made) involving infiltration, cable cars (also done in OHMSS), and some fantastic stealthy scenes around it. Fukunaga can make the tension work beautifully with such sequence.

    Certainly agree their and would love to see it!!!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Has Norway been confirmed then? I thought some chap involved with the production mentioned something about freezing his sack off in Canada this winter, suggesting some action scene set there as well?

    In terms of cable car, while I like the idea in principle, I'd rather they not go there. The cable car scenes in OHMSS & MR are incredibly iconic, as is the one in Where Eagles Dare. Whenever they've done anything which recalls the past in any way lately they have screwed it up royally for me, and I can't see this time being any different. So ideally I'd prefer something that hasn't been done.

    I do like the idea of more undercover spy work and infiltration though. That could work nicely and it's been a while .
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Norway and Canada have not been confirmed, but both are substantial rumours.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    jake24 wrote: »
    Norway and Canada have not been confirmed, but both are substantial rumours.
    Thanks.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    bondjames wrote: »
    Has Norway been confirmed then? I thought some chap involved with the production mentioned something about freezing his sack off in Canada this winter, suggesting some action scene set there as well?

    In terms of cable car, while I like the idea in principle, I'd rather they not go there. The cable car scenes in OHMSS & MR are incredibly iconic, as is the one in Where Eagles Dare. Whenever they've done anything which recalls the past in any way lately they have screwed it up royally for me, and I can't see this time being any different. So ideally I'd prefer something that hasn't been done.

    I do like the idea of more undercover spy work and infiltration though. That could work nicely and it's been a while .

    There's also this one from Johnny English Reborn:

  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    In this Trump led world we live in we need Bond more than ever to give us hope against the megalomaniacs of this world. Also so glad Kevin Spacey was never involved in a Bond film with hindsight.
    You see him as a megalomaniac, I see him as a man doing what needs to be done. You don't see me bitching about the Obama Administration and how his awful policies brought the entire globe to its knees a lot of delusional masses paved the way in for the real threats to penetrate and execute their plans. Should I elect Obama as an evil megalomaniac being an insider?

    Thought so. Now, keep your politics out of Bond as well as this thread just like the rest of us are doing, and go get a life.

    Amen.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    How about The Death Collector as the title?
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    Remington wrote: »
    How about The Death Collector as the title?

    That sounds like a Sherlock Holmes mystery to me for some reason.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    On the topic of Norway...

    Seeing as there's a lot of discussion on castles and snowy mountains, I'd love to see some fantastic inspiration drawn from Where Eagles Dare (which, in my opinion, is the greatest spy film ever made) involving infiltration, cable cars (also done in OHMSS), and some fantastic stealthy scenes around it. Fukunaga can make the tension work beautifully with such sequence.

    Certainly agree their and would love to see it!!!
    Imagine those tense and haunting stealthy scenes we've seen in at least two Alistair MacLean films, The Guns of Navarone and Where Eagles Dare. Mallory (Gregory Peck) and Smith (Burton) creeping up on the guards for a silent kill whilst a haunting classical music plays on the radio, echoing through the walls.

    Imagine Bond in that situation, taking cover by the wall, listening to the guard's footsteps, his suppressed Walther in hand, breaking a cold sweat, the fear of getting caught running through his nerves while at the same time he does his best to conceal it. A situation of terror. That's the beauty of it. Unfortunately, we've very rarely seen Bond in pickles as such. For Your Eyes Only could've had that, but the finale at the St. Cyrill's monastery was poorly executed.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Remington wrote: »
    How about The Death Collector as the title?

    That sounds like a Sherlock Holmes mystery to me for some reason.

    That's why I like it so much ;)
  • patbpatb
    edited December 2018 Posts: 4,617
    The melodrama point/discussion is interesting IMHO and it's a key decision to be made re the next movie.

    noun
    noun: melodrama; plural noun: melodramas

    1.
    a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters and exciting events intended to appeal to the emotions.

    So with the SF scene I referred to, Bond is pi**ed off with M and lets his feelings be known. This, for me, is in keeping with what has happened and fits the tone of the movie.

    However, in SP, we have the step brother rubbish which really is a bolt on and can be described as sensational and exagerated with an aim (failed) to up the emotion. That is a 100% attempt at melodrama

    I think we have to be fair in drawing a line between emotion that has been created within the plot as it developes and "bolt on" extras which are there to boost the emotion and can be spotted a mile off. I really do hope that the team for the next film can see this obvious line so we can still have some emotion.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    patb wrote: »
    The melodrama point/discussion is interesting IMHO and it's a key decision to be made re the next movie.

    noun
    noun: melodrama; plural noun: melodramas

    1.
    a sensational dramatic piece with exaggerated characters and exciting events intended to appeal to the emotions.

    So with the SF scene I referred to, Bond is pi**ed off with M and lets his feelings be known. This, for me, is in keeping with what has happened and fits the tone of the movie.

    However, in SP, we have the step brother rubbish which really is a bolt on and can be described as sensational and exagerated with an aim (failed) to up the emotion. That is a 100% attempt at melodrama

    I think we have to be fair in drawing a line between emotion that has been created within the plot as it developes and "bolt on" extras which are there to boost the emotion and can be spotted a mile off. I really do hope that the team for the next film can see this obvious line so we can still have some emotion.

    Exactly. I made this point a few pages back regarding melodrama and some people's misinterpretation of its meaning.

    There's a big difference between "drama" and "melodrama". SP is very guilty of the latter, both in the foster-brother stuff and the somewhat sketchy Bond-Madeleine romance that leaps and bounds its way to an "I love you".

    Drama only becomes melodrama when it stops being believable or becomes highly exaggerated beyond established reason. I believed most of the relationships and the dramatic fallout of certain situations in Craig's first three films, so they work fine. They're not always to my personal taste or liking, but they work in the context of which the filmmakers intended to.

    I think Fukanaga is - all things considered - quite a subtle filmmaker, so melodrama would not be something I'd worry about.
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