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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    If true, this is great news as far as I'm concerned as well.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    I’m liking this news!
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    I'm surprised. I thought that his sexual harassment accusations would be the end of his career.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/four-women-accuse-paul-haggis-sexual-misconduct-including-two-rapes-1072015

    Bryan Singer faced sexual assault allegations and he went on to direct bohemian rhapsody this past year so it affects some and others not.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    I'm surprised. I thought that his sexual harassment accusations would be the end of his career.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/four-women-accuse-paul-haggis-sexual-misconduct-including-two-rapes-1072015
    It does surprise me that Eon would want to associate themselves with Haggis given his allegations. But from a creative standpoint I'm thrilled to know he's on board.

    @jake24 same here don't like that he did that obviously but on a creative mind stand point this is very good news
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    007Blofeld wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    @jake24 Wasn't this the same writer from Casino Royale I'm excited about this

    I think the story from Ian Fleming is the major contributing factor as too why CR is so good.
    Though Paul Haggis work is not to be under estimated.
    Certainly not unhappy to see his name as a writer on Bond again.
    Still hoping MGW will co-write a Bond again. Don’t think he will, but we can hope.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    I'm surprised. I thought that his sexual harassment accusations would be the end of his career.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/four-women-accuse-paul-haggis-sexual-misconduct-including-two-rapes-1072015

    @MaxCasino same here obviously should get punished if true
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    jake24 wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    I'm surprised. I thought that his sexual harassment accusations would be the end of his career.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/four-women-accuse-paul-haggis-sexual-misconduct-including-two-rapes-1072015
    It does surprise me that Eon would want to associate themselves with Haggis given his allegations. But from a creative standpoint I'm thrilled to know he's on board.

    That's because the accusations were a Scientology smear.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    echo wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    I'm surprised. I thought that his sexual harassment accusations would be the end of his career.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/four-women-accuse-paul-haggis-sexual-misconduct-including-two-rapes-1072015
    It does surprise me that Eon would want to associate themselves with Haggis given his allegations. But from a creative standpoint I'm thrilled to know he's on board.

    That's because the accusations were a Scientology smear.
    That's what I read, too.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    This is sounding good.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited January 2019 Posts: 3,126
    @jake24 How credible is thegww.com for the Bond 25 news?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    @jake24 How credible is thegww.com for the Bond 25 news?
    No idea.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    jake24 wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    @jake24 How credible is thegww.com for the Bond 25 news?
    No idea.

    @jake24 ok
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    echo wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    I'm surprised. I thought that his sexual harassment accusations would be the end of his career.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/four-women-accuse-paul-haggis-sexual-misconduct-including-two-rapes-1072015
    It does surprise me that Eon would want to associate themselves with Haggis given his allegations. But from a creative standpoint I'm thrilled to know he's on board.

    That's because the accusations were a Scientology smear.

    It doesn’t surprise me that it’s just a smear from Scientology. Those nut cases are beyond the realm of normal human conduct, and after what he said on Scientology The Aftermath I’m sure they’re pissed at him.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited January 2019 Posts: 3,126
    The writer of the article is Thomas Polito for Paul Haggis contributing on Bond 25 news
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    007Blofeld wrote: »
    The writer of the article is Thomas Polito

    Is he reliable?
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    The writer of the article is Thomas Polito

    Is he reliable?

    @BMW_with_missiles no clue hadn't heard of him till now
  • Posts: 4,619
    Ok, this isn’t necessarybad news (in fact this could be quite good news) but it does make me worried. Aparrently this draft by Haggis was turned in at the end of November, and it seems Fukunaga did NOT significantly contribute to this draft. (Otherwise his name would have been on it just like Haggis’ name was on it, right?)

    The question is: why did Fukunaga not significantly contribute to the draft that was turned in 2 months after he was hired to direct? I thought one of the reasons he was hired was that he was a WRITER-director...
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Ok, this isn’t necessarybad news (in fact this could be quite good news) but it does make me worried. Aparrently this draft by Haggis was turned in at the end of November, and it seems Fukunaga did NOT significantly contribute to this draft. (Otherwise his name would have been on it just like Haggis’ name was on it, right?)

    The question is: why did Fukunaga not significantly contribute to the draft that was turned in 2 months after he was hired to direct? I thought one of the reasons he was hired was that he was a WRITER-director...

    No he was hired because he was available on short notice, and met with Craig's approval. If they wanted someone's prints on this film, they would have given Boyle creative freedom to begin with.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    At the end of the day , Fukunaga will have contributed significantly to the script, even if that means a polish to tie various elements from different contributors together and dialogue; he wasn’t hired as a journeyman Director.
  • Great news.
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    The fact that the script that was turned in 3 YEARS after the release of Spectre is not the shooting script is frustrating. Why are 3 years not enough for EON to get writers to deliver a screenplay for them they are all happy with? I know I am repeating myself, but the great Chris Nolan can write, direct and produce a great movie in just 2 years!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    But Chris Nolan is NOT EON!
    Despite what some of you think and feel, Eon owe us the fans nothing.
    Yes I’d like a Bond film every other year like we used to get. But that isn’t happening anytime soon.
    Despite the hold ups, and waiting for news I personally still have faith and time for Eon.
    You just have to be patient. Getting worked up or demanding news or change, will not make the slightest bit of difference.
    Finally, I do like Christopher Nolan. But Interstellar was crap. And Dunkirk wasn’t much better. Maybe his Bond film wouldn’t be as good as you think @PanchitoPistoles
    But that’s for another time. IF and when Nolan gets the directors gig we can talk about it then.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Couldn’t have asked for better news than Paul haggis having a hand in the writing department. Although it’s not confirmed he must’ve been a big part of making CR special.

    With regards to Nolan, I’m a huge Nolan fan and at times have wished for him to helm bond, but the more I think about it, he wouldn’t make a good one. His films are cold and calculated. They are technical masterpieces and worked out perfectly. But they lack true emotion, and that’s okay for a film like inception or interstellar, but I do like my bond films to have thematic depth and explore the nuances in Bond’s character which I don’t think Nolan will be able to deliver. He’d probably deliver some spectre style actions sequences (oddly enough his main man Hoyte Van Hoytema was DP on SP) with some loose plotting. The film would look and sound amazing, but the feeling of bond probably would be absent
  • Posts: 7,407
    This is indeed good news. Reportedly, CR script was vast improvement after he did a rewrite of Purvis/Wade draft, and he was unable to polish QOS script (though I think it's still good) because of the writers strike!
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 4,408
    Interesting development...

    Firstly, https://thegww.com/ is rather reliable. They specialise in reporting 'below the line' updates regarding films. For example, a new production designer or cinematographer has been hired for x project.

    If they are saying Haggis was bought on board as a writer, then I assume he was hired for the film. Though the extent of his involvement is questionable since Fukunaga is now writing.

    Personally, I'm very excited about this development. I've stated numerous times that the emotional weight of CR is truly down to Haggis. He didn't rewrite the script - opposed to tweak and add weight to the Bond/Vesper dynamic. He was chiefly responsible for adding the emotional complexity to the script.

    I started a thread a while ago discussing his work;
    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/6397/paul-haggis-talks-casino-royale-and-quantum-of-solace

    Here he talks about CR:


    Also, an extensive interview about Bond here:
    http://www.grouchoreviews.com/interviews/401

    Nonetheless, there is a chance that Haggis did some uncredited consultation on the film. He's in the middle of some ugly litigation and I imagine Eon might not want his name on the project 'officially' at the moment:
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/paul-haggis-rape-accuser-demands-caa-hand-any-disguised-sexual-misconduct-settlements-1167880
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    jake24 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Paul Haggis has reportedly contributed to the B25 script:

    https://thegww.com/exclusive-paul-haggis-has-contributed-to-the-bond-25-script/

    I'm surprised. I thought that his sexual harassment accusations would be the end of his career.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/four-women-accuse-paul-haggis-sexual-misconduct-including-two-rapes-1072015
    It does surprise me that Eon would want to associate themselves with Haggis given his allegations. But from a creative standpoint I'm thrilled to know he's on board.

    That's because the accusations were a Scientology smear.
    That's what I read, too.

    Makes you wonder what would happen if another member of that cult spoke out. Teflon Tom.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    What occurred to me was that we know a major reason for Boyle leaving was due to Eon wanting to bring on another writer. What if this writer was Haggis? He might have been hired to do a re-write/polish after Boyle's departure, then turned in the draft some time after Fukunaga was hired.
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    On one hand you have a screenplay written by John Hodge and based on an idea by the great Danny Boyle. On the other hand you have a screenplay written by Neal Purvis, Robert Wade, Paul Haggis and Cary Fukunaga with input from Barbara Brocoli, Daniel Craig and god knows who.

    I certainly know which of these two screenplays I am more interested in reading.
  • jake24 wrote: »
    What occurred to me was that we know a major reason for Boyle leaving was due to Eon wanting to bring on another writer. What if this writer was Haggis? He might have been hired to do a re-write/polish after Boyle's departure, then turned in the draft some time after Fukunaga was hired.

    It's a very curious situation.

    I imagine the timeline went something like this:

    ♢ In August 2018, Eon want to hire a new writer to work on John Hodge's script (which is using aspects of P&W's original draft). Danny Boyle balks at the idea and quits the film.
    ♢ At such a point, Eon hire P&W to continue their own draft. This script is an entirely new film using both the Hodge draft and their original idea.
    ♢ I assume, that whilst P&W are working on their script, Paul Haggis is contacted to consult on the script and work on character development. During this period Eon are meeting with directors.
    ♢ Cary Fukunaga is hired and given the P&W script with Haggis's revisions. Evidently, the decision is made to let Haggis continue making changes and he hands in his revisions on 22 November 2018.
    ♢ Fukunaga continues making revisions and additions as the film enters pre-production. He is the lead writer.

    I'm pretty certain and P&W and Fukunaga are working on the script full-time. Paul Haggis is essentially a 'gun for hire' - someone Eon trust to problemshoot and help finesse. Effectively, he is a consultant. I don't even think he gets a credit, which I think will be:

    Screenplay by Cary Fukunaga and Neal Purvis & Robert Wade
    Story by Neal Purvis & Robert Wade and John Hodge
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