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  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
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    So it's safe to say this is the first set photo of B25?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited January 2019 Posts: 10,591
    Blofeld0064 wrote: »
    So it's safe to say this is the first set photo of B25?
    Nope, just a snap of London. No actual preparations/filming taking place on-camera.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Just wondering: given the lack of rumours (which can be a coincidence or EON being clever about what's released); might we see a Bond film that features more scenes shot at Pinewood? It would be easier to avoid leaks if more scenes are shot behind closed doors, maybe?

    Also wondering about the budget. A smaller budget might mean less location shooting, etc. – which might be a factor to the lack of location news (?)

    I’ve had similar thinking. Sometimes going smaller can lead to a much better film, too. EON, at least right now, is being very secretive about the details.

    All of this is very possible, and good for them for keeping cards close to their chest.Theyve let us know what they want us to know (looks like M, MP and Q are back (although I have a feeling Whishaw is still in negotiations hence his saying nothing on the Noron show, and it not being asked), Mandy, and of course DC).

    We have second unit and stunt men arriving in London.

    To me, this is all very exciting. A film is coming together...
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,740
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Just wondering: given the lack of rumours (which can be a coincidence or EON being clever about what's released); might we see a Bond film that features more scenes shot at Pinewood? It would be easier to avoid leaks if more scenes are shot behind closed doors, maybe?

    Also wondering about the budget. A smaller budget might mean less location shooting, etc. – which might be a factor to the lack of location news (?)

    I’ve had similar thinking. Sometimes going smaller can lead to a much better film, too. EON, at least right now, is being very secretive about the details.

    I'm hoping for a smaller budget film this time around. To me, the budget of SP didn't show on screen.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited January 2019 Posts: 10,591
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Just wondering: given the lack of rumours (which can be a coincidence or EON being clever about what's released); might we see a Bond film that features more scenes shot at Pinewood? It would be easier to avoid leaks if more scenes are shot behind closed doors, maybe?

    Also wondering about the budget. A smaller budget might mean less location shooting, etc. – which might be a factor to the lack of location news (?)

    I’ve had similar thinking. Sometimes going smaller can lead to a much better film, too. EON, at least right now, is being very secretive about the details.

    I'm hoping for a smaller budget film this time around. To me, the budget of SP didn't show on screen.
    I would definitely prefer something with the epic scale of SF this time around, coupled with the wit of FRWL. It is Daniel's last after all.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 575
    jake24 wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Just wondering: given the lack of rumours (which can be a coincidence or EON being clever about what's released); might we see a Bond film that features more scenes shot at Pinewood? It would be easier to avoid leaks if more scenes are shot behind closed doors, maybe?

    Also wondering about the budget. A smaller budget might mean less location shooting, etc. – which might be a factor to the lack of location news (?)

    I’ve had similar thinking. Sometimes going smaller can lead to a much better film, too. EON, at least right now, is being very secretive about the details.

    I'm hoping for a smaller budget film this time around. To me, the budget of SP didn't show on screen.
    I would definitely prefer something with the epic scale of SF this time around, coupled with the wit of FRWL. It is Daniel's last after all.

    I agree. Make it a worthy finale for Craig!
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,343
    jake24 wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Just wondering: given the lack of rumours (which can be a coincidence or EON being clever about what's released); might we see a Bond film that features more scenes shot at Pinewood? It would be easier to avoid leaks if more scenes are shot behind closed doors, maybe?

    Also wondering about the budget. A smaller budget might mean less location shooting, etc. – which might be a factor to the lack of location news (?)

    I’ve had similar thinking. Sometimes going smaller can lead to a much better film, too. EON, at least right now, is being very secretive about the details.

    I'm hoping for a smaller budget film this time around. To me, the budget of SP didn't show on screen.
    I would definitely prefer something with the epic scale of SF this time around, coupled with the wit of FRWL. It is Daniel's last after all.

    +1.

    A film with the scale of SF would be perfect. I don't see them producing a "smaller" Bond than any of the previous four DC movies. It's hist last mission and I expect a good amount of globetrotting in beautiful locations with great action set pieces. Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    matt_u wrote: »
    Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
    This obsession with MI 6 setting the bar high has to STOP.

    BOTH Skyfall and Spectre made more money than any Mission Impossible film.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited January 2019 Posts: 2,541
    Bond25 will be more story and less action driven, my best guess is we can expect action pieces like CR/ not like QOS,SF,SP and with more mature cast. Characters will be a lot aged out after 4 years. For now I am happy that we are moving forward.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
    This obsession with MI 6 setting the bar high has to STOP.

    BOTH Skyfall and Spectre made more money than any Mission Impossible film.
    Certainly not in terms of storytelling, but the last MI film has set a new bar action-wise.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,619
    jake24 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
    This obsession with MI 6 setting the bar high has to STOP.

    BOTH Skyfall and Spectre made more money than any Mission Impossible film.
    Certainly not in terms of storytelling, but the last MI film has set a new bar action-wise.
    I'm not so sure about that. The parkour chase in CR and the Burj Khalifa scene in Mission 4 both were more exciting than any action scene in Fallout.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited January 2019 Posts: 2,541
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
    This obsession with MI 6 setting the bar high has to STOP.

    BOTH Skyfall and Spectre made more money than any Mission Impossible film.
    Certainly not in terms of storytelling, but the last MI film has set a new bar action-wise.
    I'm not so sure about that. The parkour chase in CR and the Burj Khalifa scene in Mission 4 both were more exciting than any action scene in Fallout.

    Agreed
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,343
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
    This obsession with MI 6 setting the bar high has to STOP.

    As a matter of facts, THEY DID. We're speaking just about the action here.

    The direction of the action set pieces in Fallout was superb. I didn't like the movie but the action was amazing.

    I'll tell you more. They're not going to top them, because we don't have Cruise and his crazy commitment to action set pieces.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
    This obsession with MI 6 setting the bar high has to STOP.

    BOTH Skyfall and Spectre made more money than any Mission Impossible film.
    Certainly not in terms of storytelling, but the last MI film has set a new bar action-wise.
    I'm not so sure about that. The parkour chase in CR and the Burj Khalifa scene in Mission 4 both were more exciting than any action scene in Fallout.

    So Mission Impossible 6 AND Mission Impossible 4 set the bar high. Point is, MI is eating Bonds lunch right now. They can either concede the crown and focus more on story, or bring their A game. The ball is in EON's court.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,767
    Do viewers compare the two?

    To me Bond is head and shoulders above MI:6. And I look forward to both.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    I agree that MI Fallout set a high bar, and was far more entertaining than Spectre. The action in Craig films has left something to be desired since Casino Royale, so here's hoping they pull something special out of the bag for 25.

    That being said, it should never be relentless in a Bond film. Focus on three, high quality action bits, well spaced out and the rest should be story and atmosphere.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,343
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    Given the fact that M-I: Fallout recently set the bar really high and EoN/MGM/Universal all want a worldwide hit the action must be top notch.
    This obsession with MI 6 setting the bar high has to STOP.

    BOTH Skyfall and Spectre made more money than any Mission Impossible film.
    Certainly not in terms of storytelling, but the last MI film has set a new bar action-wise.
    I'm not so sure about that. The parkour chase in CR and the Burj Khalifa scene in Mission 4 both were more exciting than any action scene in Fallout.

    So Mission Impossible 6 AND Mission Impossible 4 set the bar high. Point is, MI is eating Bonds lunch right now. They can either concede the crown and focus more on story, or bring their A game. The ball is in EON's court.

    True. But MI4 had one insane action set piece. MI6 had at least 3.

    Personally, I'm 100% sure they will focus a lot on the story and characters this time but they will also try to give us something special from the action standpoint. Focusing on story doesn't mean having a super smaller scale picture.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    How comparable are the two franchises really? I don't doubt that one performing well will get the attention of the other though.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    edited January 2019 Posts: 984
    Should it really be that hard for them to come up with quality action for Bond. I know they don't have a lunatic stuntman like BJ Worth anymore but seriously. Something akin to the cargo plane scene from TLD would be perfect. Realistic and gripping.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,740
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Should it really be that hard for them to come up with quality action for Bond. I know they don't have a lunatic stuntman like BJ Worth anymore but seriously. Something akin to the cargo plane scene from TLD would be perfect. Realistic and gripping.

    Would love to see something like that – as long as they don't do a lot of bad CGI.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,408
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Just wondering: given the lack of rumours (which can be a coincidence or EON being clever about what's released); might we see a Bond film that features more scenes shot at Pinewood? It would be easier to avoid leaks if more scenes are shot behind closed doors, maybe?

    Also wondering about the budget. A smaller budget might mean less location shooting, etc. – which might be a factor to the lack of location news (?)

    I feel this is probably the case - and it's no bad thing. SP was a little overly lavish as it was evident that film was basking in the success of SF.

    But SF had very few leaks as the production was very studio-based. Apparently, Mendes was told very early on that the film would be studio-based and have a minimum amount of location shooting. Supposedly, Eon were telling him not to worry as they could easily make London and Pinewood look like anywhere in the world. However, Mendes wisely decided to incorporate London into the story - instead of having it pose as Tokyo or Seoul for 90 minutes.

    In other news, I suspect that Mark Tildesley is off the film and Dennis Gassner is back. Gassner has been posting on Instagram a lot in the new year with some interesting looking shots:



    Purely speculation though. However, I have been looking around Instagram and Gregg Wilson's wife recently started following Gassner. I won't post her profile here as it's mostly family stuff and I don't think it's too respectful. Though it may suggest Gassner is back.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,740
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Just wondering: given the lack of rumours (which can be a coincidence or EON being clever about what's released); might we see a Bond film that features more scenes shot at Pinewood? It would be easier to avoid leaks if more scenes are shot behind closed doors, maybe?

    Also wondering about the budget. A smaller budget might mean less location shooting, etc. – which might be a factor to the lack of location news (?)

    I feel this is probably the case - and it's no bad thing. SP was a little overly lavish as it was evident that film was basking in the success of SF.

    But SF had very few leaks as the production was very studio-based. Apparently, Mendes was told very early on that the film would be studio-based and have a minimum amount of location shooting. Supposedly, Eon were telling him not to worry as they could easily make London and Pinewood look like anywhere in the world. However, Mendes wisely decided to incorporate London into the story - instead of having it pose as Tokyo or Seoul for 90 minutes.

    In other news, I suspect that Mark Tildesley is off the film and Dennis Gassner is back. Gassner has been posting on Instagram a lot in the new year with some interesting looking shots:



    Purely speculation though. However, I have been looking around Instagram and Gregg Wilson's wife recently started following Gassner. I won't post her profile here as it's mostly family stuff and I don't think it's too respectful. Though it may suggest Gassner is back.

    I don't think a smaller budget is a bad thing either. It's more how they use it. Then again, the lack of rumours or news might just be EON doing their best not to reveal too much.

    Interesting point re. Gassner and his Instagram. Does he usually share images from location scouting, etc.?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,619
    @Pierce2Daniel Gassner and Jany Temine both are back and BOND 25 is now 100% a Barbara Broccoli production. The crew that could have been: Danny Boyle, John Hodge, Mark Tildesley, costume designer Suttirat Larlarb, Daniel Pemberton. The crew we will get: Dennis Gassner, Jany Temine, David Arnold, Purvis and Wade + poor Cary Fukunaga totally controlled by Barbara Broccoli.

    ...and don't get me wrong, Gassner and Temine are great at their jobs, but their return indicates that Bond 25 will completely controlled by the producers with very little input from the great Cary Fukunaga.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Is Temime really back for B25 @PanchitoPistoles? Dear lord I hope not.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,408
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @Pierce2Daniel Gassner and Jany Temine both are back and BOND 25 is now 100% a Barbara Broccoli production. The crew that could have been: Danny Boyle, John Hodge, Mark Tildesley, costume designer Suttirat Larlarb, Daniel Pemberton. The crew we will get: Dennis Gassner, Jany Temine, David Arnold, Purvis and Wade + poor Cary Fukunaga totally controlled by Barbara Broccoli.

    ...and don't get me wrong, Gassner and Temine are great at their jobs, but their return indicates that Bond 25 will completely controlled by the producers with very little input from the great Cary Fukunaga.

    But don't worry @PanchitoPistoles at least the great Christopher Nolan won't suffer these fools for Bond 26

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    Also, remind me to get you your first beer when you turn 18
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,767
    Was the "problem" with Spectre that Mendes was allowed too much control from the producers.

    Or Barbara Broccoli will be wrong either way.
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
    edited January 2019 Posts: 832
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @Pierce2Daniel Gassner and Jany Temine both are back and BOND 25 is now 100% a Barbara Broccoli production. The crew that could have been: Danny Boyle, John Hodge, Mark Tildesley, costume designer Suttirat Larlarb, Daniel Pemberton. The crew we will get: Dennis Gassner, Jany Temine, David Arnold, Purvis and Wade + poor Cary Fukunaga totally controlled by Barbara Broccoli.

    Yea the latter crew appeals more to me.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Jany is back?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Regarding that recent tweet of the stuntman in London - perhaps there's some truth to the rumour of Bond landing on the Centre Point building.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    QBranch wrote: »
    Regarding that recent tweet of the stuntman in London - perhaps there's some truth to the rumour of Bond landing on the Centre Point building.
    That's what I thought too. Could easily be something else, though.
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