No Time To Die: Production Diary

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    Any idea of when this info dump will happen
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 6,709
    boldfinger wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Norway and North Africa? Talk about contrast. Heat and fire, would make Forster happy ;) But filmed in Digital by Sandgren and directed by Fukunaga. Wow, one can only imagine what the'll make of these locations.
    You can easily go back at least till TSHLM, which makes heavy use of contrasts. One of the best being Bond being briefed at a naval base, and then, cut, Bond in the desert. Magnificent.

    That's true. Magnificent indeed.
    boldfinger wrote: »
    I admit that I don´t get at all all the Deakins worship for SF ;-). Not that he´s not talented, but there are films the cinematography of which fascinates me much more.

    I get that there are more good cinematographers out there. Always have been. But Deakins is really that good. Those scenes at Skyfall were amazingly lit. That being said, I must say I have seen better. Danny Cohen, PTAnderson, Cuaron, ..., are brilliant cinematographers. But none is Freddie Young or John Alcott.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Any idea of when this info dump will happen

    The Norweigian Instagram says tomorrow. That would be very cool and one wonders if this will be a PTS and/or a quick sequence or two (correct me if I'm wrong, but even with incentives, Norway is one of the most expensive places to shoot in the world).

    As I said to the Colonel today, I'm seriously starting to get excited about what this creative team has up their sleeves.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    When I read digital for Bond 25 I immediately think of the stunning cinematography in Skyfall. So I'm more than fine with that seeing as plenty of people feel that Sandgren is very talented (I am unfamiliar with his work), and combined with Cary's vision (whatever that may be), it all bodes very well indeed for Bond 25.

    Also: NORWAY!! :) Oh, I have wanted Bond to go there for so long. It could be the PTS or in any part of the film, large or small - I would just be happy to see Norway in Bond 25. What a beautiful country. Nice contrast to location in Cadiz (representing African country).
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Say what you will about Spectre but Hoyte van Hoytema made it look impeccable with his masterful atmospheric way of filming, on actual 35mm film that is.

    Impeccable? Masterful? SP?? Hell no. The only noteworthy thing about SP was how esoecially bad and disappointing it was. Besides the film being total garbage the colour pallet and cinematography is by far the weakest of the Craig era. Hoytema is talented generally speaking but it's like he didn't bother showing up to work for SP.

    Exaggeration galore imo. I reckon it will be appreciated more in the years to come and I'm talking about the cinematography in this case. The film itself, the script, direction by Mendes was quite a few notches, quality wise, below Hoyte's work.

    Bring on the info dump or I'll have to NSA myself into the leak.
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 17,740
    peter wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Any idea of when this info dump will happen

    The Norweigian Instagram says tomorrow. That would be very cool and one wonders if this will be a PTS and/or a quick sequence or two (correct me if I'm wrong, but even with incentives, Norway is one of the most expensive places to shoot in the world).

    Can't see Norway featuring any more than briefly. The incentive scheme for 2019 amounts to a total of 75m kroner (£6.7m), in contrast to the financial incentives and tax rebates of £13m (!) from Mexico for SP alone.

    Eleven applications have been received apparently, and one could imagine that at least a significant amount to be earmarked the Scandinavian projects.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited January 2019 Posts: 12,480
    Yes, I think Norway is expensive - so is Japan - but I would dearly love Norway in the PTS (which would be rather briefly). And Japan anywhere (though that is not on the radar for this one, I think).
  • What do you all think about Sandgren filming Bond 25 in digital?

  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    What do you all think about Sandgren filming Bond 25 in digital?

    Bring it on! I approve. And tomorrow bring some casting confirmations.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    So if there is a casting announcement tomorrow, I'm hoping to see any of these names... Rami Malek, Sonoya Mizuno or Tao Okamoto.

    It'd probably be good for Malek, if it is true, that they announce it before the Oscars, so he doesn't have to avoid all the questions he's going to be asked on the red carpet.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Yes, like I mentioned, Sandgren using digital is fine. I'm quite happy with that news because Skyfall was so gorgeously filmed.
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    Filming begins in just 39 days.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    So if there is a casting announcement tomorrow, I'm hoping to see any of these names... Rami Malek, Sonoya Mizuno or Tao Okamoto.

    It'd probably be good for Malek, if it is true, that they announce it before the Oscars, so he doesn't have to avoid all the questions he's going to be asked on the red carpet.

    Believe it or not, Diane Lane or Winona Ryder. Or confirmation of Christoph Waltz and Jeffery Wright.
  • Posts: 4,619
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    So if there is a casting announcement tomorrow, I'm hoping to see any of these names... Rami Malek, Sonoya Mizuno or Tao Okamoto.

    It'd probably be good for Malek, if it is true, that they announce it before the Oscars, so he doesn't have to avoid all the questions he's going to be asked on the red carpet.

    Believe it or not, Diane Lane or Winona Ryder. Or confirmation of Christoph Waltz and Jeffery Wright.
    Please elaborate.
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 1,282
    Christopher Waltz, Jeffrey Wright, Rory Kinnear, and Lea Sideoux hopefully get announced tomorrow.


    Regarding digital.....doesn't it seem kinda "fake" or too surreal instead of film being used? At least with film, we were able to focus on what the cinematographer and director were jointly trying to get the audience in the mood for (such as the change of location from one scene to another).

    Skyfall felt like watching the inside of a movie studio as opposed to getting lost in the 2nd Unit director's art.


    Lastly, wouldn't it raise eyebrows if Simon Kassianides makes a cameo appearance in the movie?
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 4,619
    Christopher Waltz, Jeffrey Wright, Rory Kinnear, and Lea Sideoux hopefully get announced tomorrow.
    Why would anyone get officially announced tomorrow? EON never officially announces casting decisions before the press conference.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Christopher Waltz, Jeffrey Wright, Rory Kinnear, and Lea Sideoux hopefully get announced tomorrow.


    Regarding digital.....doesn't it seem kinda "fake" or too surreal instead of film being used? At least with film, we were able to focus on what the cinematographer and director were jointly trying to get the audience in the mood for (such as the change of location from one scene to another).

    Skyfall felt like watching the inside of a movie studio as opposed to getting lost in the 2nd Unit director's art.


    Lastly, wouldn't it raise eyebrows if Simon Kassianides makes a cameo appearance in the movie?

    Yusef recruiting for Spectre?
    Back to his old ways. Or would he be detained after the events of QOS.
    It's one of those small details that could work very well within the story. Why did you mention him @dramaticscenesofQOS ?

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    They will probably announce some filming in Norway. Which is good. Nothing else.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,604
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    So if there is a casting announcement tomorrow, I'm hoping to see any of these names... Rami Malek, Sonoya Mizuno or Tao Okamoto.

    It'd probably be good for Malek, if it is true, that they announce it before the Oscars, so he doesn't have to avoid all the questions he's going to be asked on the red carpet.

    Believe it or not, Diane Lane or Winona Ryder. Or confirmation of Christoph Waltz and Jeffery Wright.
    Please elaborate.

    A person can dream, can't they? Diane Lane wants to be a villain in her career, and Winona Ryder looks and acts like a villain in real life. They both would be great for James Bond.
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    Baffling that anyone wants waltz to return. If waltz is the main villain in bond 25, my currently high anticipation will plummet.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    Baffling that anyone wants waltz to return. If waltz is the main villain in bond 25, my currently high anticipation will plummet.

    I second this.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    Baffling that anyone wants waltz to return. If waltz is the main villain in bond 25, my currently high anticipation will plummet.

    I second this.

    I get where you are coming from. As a side villain however, I would like to see him back. With better written material though.
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 2,081
    peter wrote: »
    Tuulia wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    I am genuinely excited about B25, manly because of CF. He's a wonderful and visual storyteller. I also think, and I'm assuming on my partner, there's an excitement about the production amongst the creatives as well.

    Fingers crossed.

    I am as well. I was meh on Boyle, and far more optimistic with CJF. Thanks for your contributions, @peter, btw. It's nice we have people like you here. I see even @ColonelSun popped by, cool.

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    It seems many here are quite excited about Rami Malek. I'm not familiar with his work, so I can't comment on his acting. - I have seen two movies he was apparently in (Ain't Them Bodies Saints and The Master), but I don't remember him in either (yeah well, small supporting roles). There's no way in hell I was ever going to even consider contributing to the Bohemian Rhapsody BO, so that'll be a hard pass from me. (A sort of pity in that in different circumstances - preferably a better movie and definitely a different director - I'd be quite interested in a Freddie Mercury movie, and would have seen it months ago.)

    I have been rolling my eyes at Malek quite a bit recently, though. He hasn't exactly been handling the press with the movie all that well - both regarding how the movie handled the person he played, and regarding questions about its director. Just not a good look at all. It's a month to the Oscars, and it'll be interesting to see if he continues the way he has so far (a bad idea... and the latest I heard he was digging a hole for himself instead of finally getting smart), or if someone gives him good advice that he actually listens to.

    In short: so far I'm not excited about the possibility of having him in a Bond movie, but we'll see...

    Hi @Tuulia , thanks for the kind words. And yes, Colonel Sun is a cool dude. I've read a couple of scripts he has in development and they're damn good. He's a genuine talent with a very rich history in the film industry (not only in the James Bond world; this guy literally went "flying with Superman" a story he can tell while he was working on one of the SM films).

    Anyways, we got a morsel of information and I was happy to share. It may give small hint to where the film is heading. And I like to hear how Gregg Wilson's in charge of the location crew (which means he's a very active producer, learning the ropes by tackling huge responsibilities. Gives a little more weight to the argument that I learned he will be taking over his father's position for B26).

    Re: Malek and the director: very dicey situation, isn't it? Everyone may have dropped the ball on this one-- producers on down. Up until recently, everyone kept mum about the allegations (almost as if they thought that if they kept quiet, it would all go away).

    And then a reply was expected from an actor.

    I personally don't think it's his job to have to answer these questions-- but the producers. And once the producers respond, the actors should be given orders to follow the lines that they've been given.

    I certainly understand your discomfort with the entire situation.

    Here is an article of Malek's recent response:

    https://www.wmagazine.com/story/rami-malek-bryan-singer

    @peter, many of us here are genuinely happy for you and others to share what you guys can when you can, even if small. Oh and Gregg taking over from his dad for the next one makes plenty sense, and I would have expected that to happen by then.

    On Singer, well, I wouldn't say discomfort, but rather rage that it seems nothing affects him, because apparently he has very powerful connections (similar garbage individuals, I presume). It was just confirmed that he's keeping his next directing job, because his current film is making so much money, and so...

    Thanks for the link, but I had already read Malek's most recent comments, which were - again - just weak, and not properly thought out at all - and he sure likes to repeat "Freddie Mercury" at any opportunity (and it has worked pretty well). "Not aware" just won't cut it, when the stuff has been (reasonably) public knowledge for over 20 years - multiple accusers, articles, a documentary film years ago... I kinda expect Hugh Jackman etc. will say they had absolutely no idea either. Somehow people who work with and hung out with the guy are "not aware" when people who don't even personally know anyone who works in the industry do. Rrright. Even I knew years ago that Bryan Singer is trash. So of course the producers knew. The studio obviously knew since with what already happened with that X-men press tour. They just like to keep hiring a guy who makes them money. (Literally what next project's employer said.) They can't possibly have any actual "answers" besides that.

    I don't know what you really had in mind, but I don't think I can agree with you that an actor's job doesn't also include answering questions concerning their work and people they work with. Actors are constantly asked about their colleagues and directors and what working on a project was like, etc. It's normal practice in promotional work and any other interviews with actors, and should be just as normal when everything isn't fine and dandy. I think actors shouldn't just play mouthpieces to producers, either. Like... if there's a change of director during actual production (or just if it's public knowledge there were some issues on set), it's only natural an actor gets asked about that, and it's weird if they get irritated and defensive (like Malek) that the question is even asked. If there's a big story released about the director of the movie then of course at the very least the lead and the "face" of the movie gets asked for a comment, and I think they should be able to do that - as well as be allowed to answer it themselves without being told their lines. Just like in, say, sport or politics, an actor's main job isn't answering questions from the media/public, but it definitely is part of the job.

    As for Malek in general, I was trying to say (messily I admit) that while I couldn't even comment on his acting since I've barely seen it, and for obvious reasons won't be seeing his most high-profile showpiece currently in theatres, I also haven't been impressed by his immature and irritable attitude and dismissive comments to legitimate questions (about other things, too) - long before the Atlantic article, as well as some peculiarly vague blabla about Mercury. The combination of the two things hasn't made me remotely excited about him potentially being cast, that's all. He might still be both a nice guy and a great actor, though. I'm sure I'll form a better informed opinion of him sooner or later one way or another (Bond movie involvement or not).
    BR is pretty much the first time I've noticed him and it's been his just what he's been saying and I haven't been impressed. - A good thing I already liked Viggo as an actor before Green Book (which I also haven't seen, and most likely won't... I still haven't seen Driving Miss Daisy, either), because he hasn't exactly impressed during the awards season, either, hehee. (I'll have their presumably well-intentioned messiness over the unpleasantness of Brian May and the GB writer Vallelonga any day, though.)

    Apologies for OT. (I know it's pretty common here anyway, though.)

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    Digital and film are both fine by me, I'm not too fussy about that; after all, both can be done well or not, and can look good or not. I kinda expected film, and I guess that would have been my preference, but curious to see what they do with digital as well. I've certainly enjoyed most of what I've seen of Sandgren's work so far. (2 were so meh as movies that I admit I don't really remember the cinematography, but the other 4 sure looked good, and at least 3 of them - American Hustle, La La Land, First Man - looked bloody excellent).
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    I predict no gunbarrel in the beginning, I also predict the pts will deal with the bond/Oberhausen/Madeline dynamic. One or two out of three will be killed off and we know it won't be bond. I wouldn't mind the female agent being eve /moneypenny. I liked her role better in skyfall anyway
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I predict no gunbarrel in the beginning, I also predict the pts will deal with the bond/Oberhausen/Madeline dynamic. One or two out of three will be killed off and we know it won't be bond. I wouldn't mind the female agent being eve /moneypenny. I liked her role better in skyfall anyway

    I’d be pretty damned annoyed if they yank the gunbarrel out of the beginning.
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 386
    Denbigh wrote: »

    I have to disagree, but not with the use of 35mm film. I think it was beautiful in it's own way, but the film looked weird. At some points, the actors looked like CGI-constructs, especially at Blofeld's base when Madeleine is shown her father's death. However, there are some exceptions, like the scene between Madeleine and Bond in the L'Americaine.

    That whole Blofeld base sequence is bizarre on a number of levels.

    Scripting, story-boarding, cinematography, everything.

    Poor Craig and Seydoux stand around like mannequins while Waltz reels off the most stilted, lazy dialogue imaginable.

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    Diane Lane would’ve been a ripping Bond girl in her pomp, circa 1984-85. Imagine her in place of Tanya Roberts in AVTAK.
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    Oberhausers base was excellent from the silver wraith introduction, meteorite and control room. Felt just like dr no. The torture sequence was a bit weak.
  • Posts: 386
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I predict no gunbarrel in the beginning, I also predict the pts will deal with the bond/Oberhausen/Madeline dynamic. One or two out of three will be killed off and we know it won't be bond. I wouldn't mind the female agent being eve /moneypenny. I liked her role better in skyfall anyway

    Madeleine is unkillable cos Vesper.

    The same lightning can’t strike Craig’s Bond twice.

    Am certain she’ll survive.

    What’s more, she can’t leave him. Already tried that in SP. if she’s back, she’s wifey. Or at least significant other.

  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    GetCarter wrote: »
    Diane Lane would’ve been a ripping Bond girl in her pomp, circa 1984-85. Imagine her in place of Tanya Roberts in AVTAK.

    That be a bit more extreme than what we got age wise between RM and TR!
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