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  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
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    ShakenNotStirred wrote: »
    re: the title, let's give Craig a multi-worded one. He needs his The Spy Who Loved Me, or The World is Not Enough. Something along those lines would be great, imho.

    Always preferred the multi-word titles. Hope they can come up with one for B25!
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I think Shatterhand most likely to be the title and Waltz might return as Blofeld. I also think it makes sense for Craig to retire/honeymoon with Madeline in Flemings house GoldenEye.

    That is certainly the ending i want. With or without Madeline.
  • TuxedoTuxedo Europe
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I think Shatterhand most likely to be the title and Waltz might return as Blofeld. I also think it makes sense for Craig to retire/honeymoon with Madeline in Flemings house GoldenEye.

    Please no Shatterhand, no Waltz, no honeymoon. Yes to Lea Sedoux and to the Golden Eye estate.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Tuxedo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I think Shatterhand most likely to be the title and Waltz might return as Blofeld. I also think it makes sense for Craig to retire/honeymoon with Madeline in Flemings house GoldenEye.

    Please no Shatterhand, no Waltz, no honeymoon. Yes to Lea Sedoux and to the Golden Eye estate.

    +1000
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,277
    Univex wrote: »
    A Farewell to Arms

    That would be great.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I think Shatterhand most likely to be the title and Waltz might return as Blofeld. I also think it makes sense for Craig to retire/honeymoon with Madeline in Flemings house GoldenEye.
    You forgot to add that it will be announced at the press conference that Craig has been replaced by Aidan Turner.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,632
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Easiest way to destroy the Bond franchise once and for all is to name Bond 25 one of the following: Shatterhand, The Garden of Death, Risico, The Property of a Lady. Especially Shatterhand.

    I'm hoping the title they will announce at the end of the month will be ballsy and completely unexpected.

    Why would it destroy the Bond franchise once and for all? It’s been said that when the series goes outrageous, they end up going back to Fleming. A title/story that carries Fleming influence is always welcome in my book.
  • FourDotFourDot
    Posts: 250
    A Farewell to Legs might work if Felix comes back.

    But yes a Hemingway-type title might work. But unlikely for the brand at the minute.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited February 2019 Posts: 6,709
    Well, I was talking about sonority, not plagiarism.

    Or, just go for a Shakespeare sentence. Like Faulkner did, or Steinbeck, or me ;)
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited February 2019 Posts: 4,619
    Filming begins in exactly 4 weeks. Press conference in about 3 and a half weeks.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    @AgentJamesBond007, it’s best not to feed the trolls. They post enough without being engaged. Yes fans want Fleming.
  • FourDotFourDot
    Posts: 250
    Univex wrote: »
    Well, I was talking about sonority, not plagiarism.

    Or, just go for a Shakespeare sentence. Like Faulkner did, or Steinbeck, or me ;)

    The Quality of Mercy would be nice but I would say they're probably swearing of Q of Something titles.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2019 Posts: 5,970
    These suggestion of Shatterhand and Bond and Madeleine retiring to Goldeneye, offer one big problem if they're to happen... you've all just predicted it.

    I think that was the beauty of Skyfall, we didn't know what it meant. Give us a title that doesn't give it all away. If you wanna use an unused title, use Risico, apart from it meaning risk in italian, it could be anything they want it to be.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,409
    Denbigh wrote: »
    These suggestion of Shatterhand and Bond and Madeleine retiring to Goldeneye, offer one big problem if they're to happen... you've all just predicted it.

    I think that was the beauty of Skyfall, we didn't know what it meant. Give us a title that doesn't give it all away. If you wanna use an unused title, use Risico, apart from it meaning risk in italian, it could be anything they want it to be.

    Also, if Eon did go down this route. They'd be ripping off my idea I posted about in 2015
    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/13322/realistic-serious-story-ideas-for-bond-25-to-be-used-by-eon-productions-ltd/p11
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    I have the perfect Bond 25 down. Seriously, EON, get in touch. I'm cheap.


    It's called.....

    "BLOFELD" or "THE TRIAL OF BLOFELD"

    The story is essentially a continuation of SP whilst melding together Fleming's OHMSS and YOLT novels.

    The Pre-titles:

    No James Bond sadly. I'm gonna take a page from the Nolan handbook and use the opening the film to really establish the villain and build him up as a threat. The film will open at the Royal Courts of Justice where Blofeld is on trial.

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    It's the last day and things have been building up to his inevitable sentencing. Blofeld is carried from his holding cell at Belmarsh in an armoured van. M makes sure that Blofeld is transported safely; they share a few barbs bethind his cell. Soon we are at his trial; all of the MI6 team are present and just before his sentence Blofeld is given a chance to speak. Here Waltz should give a fantastic speech in league with the material he got given when he played Landa in "Inglourious Basterds". Just then he gets sprung as Spectre turn up and shoot up the Court and lead him out of the Court.

    They throw him in the back of an armoured van and race down the strand on to Waterloo Bridge. The MI6 team and the local police pursue Blofeld. The person is charge of the pursuit is Moneypenny (Naomie Harris was a little wasted in SP - I want the kick-ass Moneypenny to return). Anyway Blofeld is able to cause Moneypenny to crash her car over the edge of Waterloo Bridge. The PTS ends with Blofeld escaping as M realises that he's lost Moneypenny and Blofeld is gone.

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    Cue Main-Title Sequence

    First Act:

    It should be established the reason why Blofeld was able to escape was due to him having a mole at the very centre of MI6. M has no one he can trust, his organisation is in tatters, the 00 Division is practically dead, Moneypenny is gone and his crowning accomplishment of capturing Blofeld has fallen apart. M is a wreck and he can't trust anyone. He's royally f**ked.

    Enter Bond: He's living in Jamaica and finding it hard to adjust to his new life away from MI6. He is still with Madeline and they are running a bar and living in a lovely house (I reckon they should have him stay in Fleming's Goldeneye estate for these bits).

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    He knows nothing aside from being a spy and the accidie and boredom that Fleming often talked about his taking hold and he's finding solace in drink. Rumours surround the island that he was once an infamous secret agent, but the locals laugh it off. How could the Englishman who runs that shitty bar be anything more than a pathetic alcoholic. It's putting pressure on him and Madeline but they are still strong.

    Soon Mallory comes and see Bond and tells him about his situation. Bond couldn't care less. However, what sparks Bond's fire is the news that Moneypenny was killed in the chase by Blofeld. 007 is shocked and wounded. M dosen't ask Bond to return, but instead says he needs someone to operate outside the system: To spy on the spies. Essentially, this film will the Bondian interpretation of "Tinker Tailor". If Bond can find the mole he can find Blofeld. Mallory plays on Bond's weaknesses; If Bond doesn't want to return he can at least come back for Moneypenny; after all she gave her life fighting for this.

    Bond tells Madeline that he has to do this and she accepts, however, she's coming with him. It's indicated at this point that Madeline has a personal secret she's keeping from Bond.

    Back in London, Bond realises that M lied to him. Moneypenny isn't dead, she's hard up in hospital but alive and conscious. M owns up to manipulating Bond to get him back as he needed his assistance desperately. I want to see a slightly more harder and machiavellian side to Mallory, after all, he's the head of a spy agency, he needs to be able to play on people's emotions and manipulate their trust in him.

    Bond and Q work outside the system and begin hunting for the mole. Somehow they find the mole had dealings in India with someone from Spectre. Bond heads there to investigate. Madeline wishes to come but Bond insists she stays in London with Q and M. She obliges. When the story crosses back from Bond's mission back to London, Madeline will continue to play a key role. She knows Spectre, therefore can help the team.

    Bond heads to India and there encounters a CIA operative, sorta akin to Black Widow from the "Avengers" films; a real kick-ass bitch. I'm thinking Jessica Chastain:

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    Anyway it turns out she's actually Spectre and she's there to tidy-up any mess left behind from the mole. The first big action sequence involving Bond should be a chase with her that should end with 007 getting his arse handed to. We need a really great female henchman for Bond to tussle with. She'll turn up in every act to give Bond hell and will eventually die at the end of the film.

    After the fight, Bond is badly injured and sends a distress call to Q. When Madeline find out she panics; remember, she has a BIG SECRET.....

    Act Two:

    Bond has discovered whilst in India that Spectre are still in operation and currently the new acting head is called Irma Bunt. A former German spy known for her brutual interrogation methods. Obviously she will be played by Tilda Swinton:

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    Bond receives word that Bunt is in Japan and will be attending a swanky party being hosting by a Japanese official.

    Meanwhile, back in London, Mallory's life is going from bad to worse. He's being used as a scapegoat for Blofeld's escape and everyone is questioning his worth. He's tired, beleaguered and running out of steam. He knows he has to keep fighting and discover the mole but there is pressure above for him to fall on his sword. He inevitably gives in. He's publicly sacked and disgraced. His Chief of Staff, Bill Tanner, will act as the new head of MI6 until a new appointment is made.

    Anyway in Japan; Bond can't get into the party, that's until Madeline turns up and walks straight past security looking the part. She'll stay with Bond now for the rest of the movie. Bond's identity is revealed at the party by Chastain (Cue large action sequence in Tokyo) and Irma captures him and uses her classic interrogation skills on him (No idea what these could be). But a mysterious Japanese man at the party who eyes Bond saves him.

    Act Three:

    This is Tiger Tanaka, obviously. Tiger knows who Bond is and informs him that he'll be reporting him to the authorizes, that is unless he works for Japanese intelligence and helps them with a 'problem'. The important Japanese bigwig who set up the party earlier has got involved with a scientist who's up to no good called Shatterhand. However, Shatterhand isn't all he seems to be.....Bond agrees to kill the man when he finds out that it is Blofeld. Also Tiger reveals that he knows who MI6's mole is, if Bond does the assignment he will hand over the information. The rest of the film will pretty much play out as the YOLT novel does.

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    Bond will travel to the Garden of Death in his quest to kill Blofeld. You will have to continue the whole Cain and Abel-esque story set up in SP. This is a story of brothers hunting one another and trying to cause each other the most pain. Blofeld should be a significant character from this point on in the story and should figure heavily. I want Waltz to get some really meaty material, I also think that M should come to Japan after his firing (I'm sick of these films sticking that character in London for the dry expositional scenes).

    It will also be revealed that the MI6 mole is.....drumroll please.........TANNER! Mainly as he is the most dispensable member of the MI6 team, and also because Rory Kinnear is an amazing actor. His theater work is fantastic (his Iago and Hamlet are beyond impressive) and these films have somehow figured a way to waste his talents on three different occasions. Kinnear needs to be used, he's too good for the role they've lumped him in. Tanner was contacted by Spectre after Judi's M died, since then he has been a subversive character in MI6. Initially, he was forced to work for Spectre, however, he has since got a taste of power and become a true believer in Spectre's new world order.

    The finale will involve Blofeld killing Madeline by ruthlessly shooting her in the head right after she reveals to Bond that she is pregnant with his kid. (Maybe Blofeld should even kill M.)

    In the finale, Blofeld's plan will be revealed; with the help from the shady Japanese bigwig, Blofeld and Irma have created a new biological weapon, he plans to unleash it unless he is acquitted and granted international amnesty for his involvement in Spectre. Anyway, Bond will inevitably foil Blofeld's plan and strangle him to death at the close of the film.

    Essentially, I'm borrowing from Fleming a lot here; one of the big themes of Flemings books was Bond craving a normal life only to have it constantly denied to him due to the profession he has chosen. By taking on the role of 'the secret agent' Bond has to acknowledge he will never have a normal life and any attempt to leave it all behind will never work out. It was always foolish for 007 to believe he could drive off into the sunset with Madeline.

    He needs to have his world rocked. Also Blofeld needs to earn his status as the franchise's 'supervillain'. In SP we just saw him claiming to have been the author of all Bond's pain, we actually need to SEE him destroy Bond's world.

    At the end of the film, Bond reluctantly comes back to Mi6 knowing that he will forever be 007. I love a good morose ending. It would also be a nice end to the Craig era and would allow a new actor to start afresh with the Blofeld arc closed off.

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    There you have.

    Get in touch EON.

    If Eon went down this route - I'm fairly certain I'd at least be given a 'thank you' credit.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    If they do bring back Blofeld, having Bond strangle him to death could be very dramatic and intense on screen.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,277
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Any word on a title

    The title was confirmed a while ago: Wave-Link.

    Wave-Link you said? :D

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2019 Posts: 5,970
    By the way guys, Rami Malek and Rachel Weisz are at the Oscars luncheon. I haven't seen Daniel but I'm going to keep an eye out. Looks like rehearsals were starting with someone else today if he is?

    EDIT: I don't think he's there.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited February 2019 Posts: 2,632
    marketto007 wrote: »
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Any word on a title

    The title was confirmed a while ago: Wave-Link.

    Wave-Link you said? :D

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    Ah, yes, the new Bond classic.

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @AgentJamesBond007, you dawg! :))
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    Yes using a Fleming title will clearly destroy the franchise....

    Well @peter at least we will have something to laugh about st the next card game
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited February 2019 Posts: 4,619
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Yes using a Fleming title will clearly destroy the franchise....

    Well @peter at least we will have something to laugh about st the next card game
    There was is a reason the remaining few Fleming titles were never used...
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,847
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Yes using a Fleming title will clearly destroy the franchise....

    Well @peter at least we will have something to laugh about st the next card game
    There was is a reason the remaining few Fleming titles were never used...


    And what is your reason for Quantum of solace not being used from 1989-2008?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @PanchitoPistoles , do you realize who you are talking to when you speak to @Risico007 ...?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited February 2019 Posts: 4,619
    Risico007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Yes using a Fleming title will clearly destroy the franchise....

    Well @peter at least we will have something to laugh about st the next card game
    There was is a reason the remaining few Fleming titles were never used...


    And what is your reason for Quantum of solace not being used from 1989-2008?
    I thought pretty much everyone agreed QOS is an awful title. The same goes for the few remaining Fleming titles.
    peter wrote: »
    @PanchitoPistoles , do you realize who you are talking to when you speak to @Risico007 ...?
    Another one of your D-list writer pals?
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    I feel like I’m the only one who liked the title Quantum of Solace.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Risico is the only title left they can have a lot of creative freedom with.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,632
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I feel like I’m the only one who liked the title Quantum of Solace.

    Quantum of Solace was a fine title, and one that makes sense considering what the story was. If it was an awful title like Panchito says, Fleming and later on EON would've never used it in the first place.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,970
    Risico is the only title left they can have a lot of creative freedom with.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited February 2019 Posts: 9,509
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Yes using a Fleming title will clearly destroy the franchise....

    Well @peter at least we will have something to laugh about st the next card game
    There was is a reason the remaining few Fleming titles were never used...


    And what is your reason for Quantum of solace not being used from 1989-2008?
    I thought pretty much everyone agreed QOS is an awful title. The same goes for the few remaining Fleming titles.
    peter wrote: »
    @PanchitoPistoles , do you realize who you are talking to when you speak to @Risico007 ...?
    Another one of your D-list writer pals?

    I liked QoS, and... "ouch!"

    and as a P.S. and edit: I don't know any D-list writers. Just me, @PanchitoPistoles ; I'm the D-list writer (welp), just me... I shall stop, tomorrow..
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2019 Posts: 5,970
    So guys, it seems Daniel and Emma are not at the Oscars Luncheon, despite Emma and Rachel's nomination so maybe they actually are in London for rehearsals? Although Emma Stone has been filming Zombieland 2 so that maybe why she's not in attendance. Emma was also spotted at the Super Bowl.
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