No Time To Die: Production Diary

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    I'd be very happy indeed if Malek was cast. Someone else now would just be a disappointment, really, after all this hype.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    Did I miss something? What was the latest hint?
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Did I miss something? What was the latest hint?

    He mentioned moving to London soon
  • edited February 2019 Posts: 831
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Did I miss something? What was the latest hint?

    He mentioned moving to London soon

    Haha -- he literally looks into the camera as he says he's "looking for a place to live here" and practically winks.

    I'm sold that he's cast in Bond 25. But I have absolutely no idea how it's going to work logistically unless Mr. Robot moves back.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I still don't think it's wrong to expect impressive action or stunts from a Bond movie.

    Considering the series' history with creative and exciting stuntwork, you'd be right. There's no excuse for uninspired action, especially considering the massive budget of the last entry.

    I wouldn't call that entry's PTS or Hinx-Bond train fight "uninspired."
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    TripAces wrote: »
    I still don't think it's wrong to expect impressive action or stunts from a Bond movie.

    Considering the series' history with creative and exciting stuntwork, you'd be right. There's no excuse for uninspired action, especially considering the massive budget of the last entry.

    I wouldn't call that entry's PTS or Hinx-Bond train fight "uninspired."

    I'd add the Rome chase to that. It's the weirdest thing. One of those sequences I don't *remember* as standout, but every time I re-watch it, I can't help but marvel at how terrific and stylish it is.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    AgentM72 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Did I miss something? What was the latest hint?

    He mentioned moving to London soon

    Haha -- he literally looks into the camera as he says he's "looking for a place to live her" and practically winks.

    I'm sold that he's cast in Bond 25. But I have absolutely no idea how it's going to work logistically unless Mr. Robot moves back.

    I'm sure they'll work something out, they'll probably find a way to work around it.

    As for his possible casting, I think it'd be great and a perfect draw for new audiences. I don't know if anyone watched the BAFTAs but the reaction to Malek when he got up on stage was insane. The audience practically roared with applause. People love him, and to see him play a villain for the first time will surely get people hooked to go see Bond 25, and with him being hot off the tails of Bohemian Rhapsody, it's very exciting.
  • edited February 2019 Posts: 3,333
    Maybe there was a hint of truth behind Egyptian actor Mohamed Karim being one of the actors up the role of chief baddie in Bond 25, after all? It’s a funny coincidence that Malek is also of Egyptian parentage and is now hot favourite to be cast in B25. I’m seeing a parallel. I also find it interesting that Christoph Waltz‘s slate appears to be clear. Could this mean that Waltz might be making a cameo appearance that’s going to be better guarded this time round? I wouldn’t let personal petty grievances get in the way of this being an unleaked surprise.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited February 2019 Posts: 4,604
    bondsum wrote: »
    Maybe there was a hint of truth behind Egyptian actor Mohamed Karim being one of the actors up the role of chief baddie in Bond 25, after all? It’s a funny coincidence that Malek is also of Egyptian parentage and is now hot favourite to be cast in B25. I’m seeing a parallel. I also find it interesting that Christoph Waltz‘s slate appears to be clear. Could this mean that Waltz might be making a cameo appearance that’s going to be better guarded this time round? I wouldn’t let personal petty grievances get in the way of this being an unleaked surprise.

    That's what I've been thinking. I think Waltz will be more supporting than a cameo though.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    I hope this coming week brings something. Anything!
  • TripAces wrote: »
    I still don't think it's wrong to expect impressive action or stunts from a Bond movie.

    Considering the series' history with creative and exciting stuntwork, you'd be right. There's no excuse for uninspired action, especially considering the massive budget of the last entry.

    I wouldn't call that entry's PTS or Hinx-Bond train fight "uninspired."
    I'd agree with the PTS but how is Hinx-Bond train fight not uninspired? I mean I admit it's fun and intense but it's a throwback to something that has been done many times in the franchise. My dad who has been a fan of Bond since the 60's complained that the train fight was a been-there-done-that.

    Personally, I felt no adrenaline or surprise during the Rome car chase or the plane chase.

    I just really really hope for much better action this time around.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited February 2019 Posts: 5,970
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I hope this coming week brings something. Anything!
    Baz was with Rami at Broccoli's BAFTA party so hopefully he'll have a scoop for us on Thursday. It'd be perfect timing considering the hype for Bohemian Rhapsody and Malek at the moment.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    TripAces wrote: »
    I still don't think it's wrong to expect impressive action or stunts from a Bond movie.

    Considering the series' history with creative and exciting stuntwork, you'd be right. There's no excuse for uninspired action, especially considering the massive budget of the last entry.

    I wouldn't call that entry's PTS or Hinx-Bond train fight "uninspired."

    Maybe not - however the train fight wasn't exactly "inspired" to me as it's been done better before - but those are only two of six action scenes, and the other four aren't up to scratch.

    That's not a good ratio.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The car chase has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise,
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    Weirdly I think a lot of the problems with Spectre's action sequences comes back to much of them seemingly existing in a vacuum. There's nobody else about for the Rome (excepting comedy Fiat man) or Austria or London sequences - for Mexico they are set-dressing rather than interactive (compare for instance Moneypenny screaming at civilians repeatedly in Istanbul). To say nothing of the Crater base escape which applies the same methodology as the Silva capture without the actual thought behind it (in SF, Bond is hustling. Here he's just Superman and has no opposition). Again, with the train sequence everyone disappears once the fighting starts. It's why much of the film feels artificial and staged rather than integrated with a larger world.
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    Surely not, @talos7. Have you forgotten DAD’s paragliding tsunami action scene? Or maybe you’re a fan?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited February 2019 Posts: 8,195
    bondsum wrote: »
    Surely not, @talos7. Have you forgotten DAD’s paragliding tsunami action scene? Or maybe you’re a fan?

    Two different animals, with the paragliding sequence being mainly a special effects sequence.
    Also, if you read what I said, the words “ one of” are used. The paragliding sequence is shameful but it doesn’t not change that the car chase in Rome is profoundly uninspired and dull.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    FourDot wrote: »
    Weirdly I think a lot of the problems with Spectre's action sequences comes back to much of them seemingly existing in a vacuum. There's nobody else about for the Rome (excepting comedy Fiat man) or Austria or London sequences - for Mexico they are set-dressing rather than interactive (compare for instance Moneypenny screaming at civilians repeatedly in Istanbul). To say nothing of the Crater base escape which applies the same methodology as the Silva capture without the actual thought behind it (in SF, Bond is hustling. Here he's just Superman and has no opposition). Again, with the train sequence everyone disappears once the fighting starts. It's why much of the film feels artificial and staged rather than integrated with a larger world.

    Great points!

  • edited February 2019 Posts: 11,425
    matt_u wrote: »
    I don’t see Fukunaga taking inspiration from McQuarrie.

    The big question about this whole arrangement is whether Fukunaga is there to provide his original vision or whether he's been hired to polish a P+W t**d.

    If it's very much producer led and he's just there for the money, then it could be the dire SP sequel / Fallout rip off some fear.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    The car chase has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise,
    talos7 wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Surely not, @talos7. Have you forgotten DAD’s paragliding tsunami action scene? Or maybe you’re a fan?

    Two different animals, with the paragliding sequence being mainly a special effects sequence.
    Also, if you read what I said, the words “ one of” are used. The paragliding sequence is shameful but it doesn’t not change that the car chase in Rome is profoundly uninspired and dull.
    I read what you said. You said: “has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise.” Conclusion: you use hyperbole rather than giving examples of why you think this is your own belief. “Two different animals” you say. They’re both action sequences, how are they both different animals? Of course you’re entitled to say that the Rome car chase is uninspired and dull, but you lose your argument when you toss in “the history of the franchise”.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    edited February 2019 Posts: 2,632
    bondsum wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    The car chase has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise,
    talos7 wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Surely not, @talos7. Have you forgotten DAD’s paragliding tsunami action scene? Or maybe you’re a fan?

    Two different animals, with the paragliding sequence being mainly a special effects sequence.
    Also, if you read what I said, the words “ one of” are used. The paragliding sequence is shameful but it doesn’t not change that the car chase in Rome is profoundly uninspired and dull.
    I read what you said. You said: “has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise.” Conclusion: you use hyperbole rather than giving examples of why you think this is your own belief. “Two different animals” you say. They’re both action sequences, how are they both different animals? Of course you’re entitled to say that the Rome car chase is uninspired and dull, but you lose your argument when you toss in “the history of the franchise”.

    For me, I find the Rome car chase kinda dull because it lacks the excitement I would get from an action sequence. There's no fired weaponry for the most part so there's not much at stake and I feel like Bond's quips about the different car functions, Moneypenny, and the old man slows down the sequence by taking away from the 'action' before us.
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    One of the weirdest sequences in Bond history. Esp when you hear how much it cost.

    Opens in Oxfordshire and then ends in a damp squib on the Tiber.
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    Getafix wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I don’t see Fukunaga taking inspiration from McQuarrie.

    The big question about this whole arrangement is whether Fukunaga is there to provide his original vision or whether he's been hired to polish a P+W t**d.

    If it's very much producer led and he's just there for the money, then it could be the dire SP sequel / Fallout rip off some fear.
    Getafix wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I don’t see Fukunaga taking inspiration from McQuarrie.

    The big question about this whole arrangement is whether Fukunaga is there to provide his original vision or whether he's been hired to polish a P+W t**d.

    If it's very much producer led and he's just there for the money, then it could be the dire SP sequel / Fallout rip off some fear.

    The likelihood of this went up significantly when Boyle was dropped.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited February 2019 Posts: 8,195
    bondsum wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    The car chase has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise,
    talos7 wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Surely not, @talos7. Have you forgotten DAD’s paragliding tsunami action scene? Or maybe you’re a fan?

    Two different animals, with the paragliding sequence being mainly a special effects sequence.
    Also, if you read what I said, the words “ one of” are used. The paragliding sequence is shameful but it doesn’t not change that the car chase in Rome is profoundly uninspired and dull.
    I read what you said. You said: “has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise.” Conclusion: you use hyperbole rather than giving examples of why you think this is your own belief. “Two different animals” you say. They’re both action sequences, how are they both different animals? Of course you’re entitled to say that the Rome car chase is uninspired and dull, but you lose your argument when you toss in “the history of the franchise”.


    You are far too impressed, more than you should be, with your own words and are coming off as a pseudo intellectual who talks in circles and mistakes it for intellect. I've noticed this in your long winded responses to several post by a number of members and topics.

    If you can't see the difference between the paragliding sequence and the car chase in Rome , I recommend taking a basic filmmaking course; you may find it helpful.

    Also, stating an opinion need not be presented as an argument; it can exist simply as an opinion. So, I'm not making an argument that the car chase has to be one of the most uninspired action sequences in the history of the franchise, I'm stating an opinion. live with it.
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I don’t see Fukunaga taking inspiration from McQuarrie.

    The big question about this whole arrangement is whether Fukunaga is there to provide his original vision or whether he's been hired to polish a P+W t**d.

    If it's very much producer led and he's just there for the money, then it could be the dire SP sequel / Fallout rip off some fear.
    Getafix wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I don’t see Fukunaga taking inspiration from McQuarrie.

    The big question about this whole arrangement is whether Fukunaga is there to provide his original vision or whether he's been hired to polish a P+W t**d.

    If it's very much producer led and he's just there for the money, then it could be the dire SP sequel / Fallout rip off some fear.

    The likelihood of this went up significantly when Boyle was dropped.

    Yes this is where it's pointing tbh. I don't think anyone at EON particularly enjoyed the auteur approach that Mendes brought. Fukunaga is a slightly random choice. Bit like Tomahori back in 2002. He's known more as a low key niche artsy director. Little or no experience of films this size.

    He's obviously been brought into a troubled existing production to just get it over the line. I am hopeful he is talented enough that he will do a decent job but I am not sure B25 is going to be individual vision some seem to be expecting.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited February 2019 Posts: 2,541
    No bond film is an individual Vision, it's a team work either director, writer, producer or lead actor, they all compromise and respect each other ideas to work together.
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    Okay. But SF and SP are the closest we've come to auteur Bond.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Getafix wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    I don’t see Fukunaga taking inspiration from McQuarrie.

    If it's very much producer led and he's just there for the money, then it could be the dire SP sequel / Fallout rip off some fear.

    Don't say I didn't try and warn you guys. I said that Fukunaga was probably only picked because he was available on short notice and met with Daniels approval, but few listened.
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    They also fit in with Mendes' canon of films about family units. But then no other Bond director has had unifying thematic material across their other films so this isn't surprising.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited February 2019 Posts: 2,541
    I just hope we don't see Malek like this in bond25 even though it was hilarious

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