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This is a solid assessment, Peter.
The first Alita trailer ends with the the text: July. It's had a seven months delay!
Delays happen from time to time so not a reason to get ultra-concerned. Another way to look at it... April is nearer to summer than February is to summer - so April feels a bit more like the old days in the Cubby Moore/Dalton era. Kinda.
It's not really a 'delay' - it's the studio reshuffling their release deck. It's disappointing for sure, but Universal are a commercial entity making commercial decisions. The release shuffle is representative of that.
Eon were supportive as the following films have released in that exact frame and posted large numbers:
Furious 7*
Avengers: Age of Ultron
The Jungle Book
Captain America: Civil War
The Fate of the Furious*
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
A Quiet Place
The starred (*) films are Universal movies. This is their Fast release window. They have moved that film deeper into summer to better accommodate China. They are filling the gap with another big property so not to loose a release date.
https://deadline.com/2019/02/fast-furious-9-memorial-day-weekend-opening-date-2020-1202558691/
Basically, Universal don't want Fast to go up against Mulan in China. That's the story - not chaos at Eon.
Not at all. With the crunch to release BOND 26 in 2022, even that lends itself to Craig returning.
Interesting perspective, @barryt007.
This is where the biggest issues ultimately lie down to. MGM’s issues have ended up derailing development of several Bond films. If Saltzman had sold his share to Broccoli, we would’ve likely had a Dalton Bond 17 and a Craig Bond 2010 film.
Agreed .
Once again it takes @peter and DD @DarthDimi to bring back a sense of perspective and,although I am VERY disappointed, I am so glad we have the power and knowledge of Universal in our corner,I trust them and EON,Babs,MGW,Dan.
They have their reasons, let’s be grateful 007 is still in safe hands.
People seem to be missing the point of this post, @ggl007 . Rehearsals are ongoing. Production is moving forward. Locations are being locked...
As someone else said about ALITA-- which was moved three times-- this is mainly the distributors call to exploit a better date for their film. That's what these guys do: find the best date(s), market the hell out of it, then pray to the cinema gods they made all the right decisions and the film makes buckets.
And it sounds like Universal's FF move created a domino effect, and, as is their right, shifted Bond into a vacated slot. That's all that happened here, folks. Moving on...
Honestly, there will be more positive news in the coming weeks. We will soon have production stills (like I said, the production page on Bond 25 changed release dates immediately, the shooting date, as of this writing, remains March 2019 (I think someone had mentioned Variety is also reporting the same as the "official" shooting month).
Nothing has changed at EoN HQs from one week ago, or twenty four hours ago. Except for a release date designed by the distributors to exploit a better date.
Once again, why arent the FF fans up in arms that their film was pushed? Why aren't they going nuts, thinking their film must also be off the rails, lol?
I never saw a Danny Boyle film an ascot Nolan I stopped paying attention to him after the dark knight rises was utterly disappointing
@barryt007 -- I've just printed what you wrote and stuck it to my forehead so my wife sees your words every time she looks at me (who's the drama queen now, wifey??)
They're not concerned because they know it's going to happen, 2 because other than PW's death (RIP) they haven't been plagued with production issues like every Bond film has since QoS and lastly, the fans are getting Hobbs and Shaw which looks entertaining AF in just a few months. The situation with FF couldn't be anymore different than what s been going on with the Bond films tgese past 11 years.
Easy not to be plagued by production issues when you barely have a story to begin with besides “fast cars” and “we’re a family”
Precisely
quote="PanchitoPistoles;960513"]@Benny What the great Albert R. Broccoli and Harry Saltzman did ( establishing Bond as a successful movie franchise) was an incredibly difficult thing to do. What Barbara and Michael are doing is the easiest thing in the word.[/quote]I think you should take a break, before you get a cranial aneurhysm.
Are you talking about Fast & Furious, or SP? ;)
We were all wondering how Universal, home of the franchise, would impact Bond 25. And now we know - by scheduling the film in a release date that gives it the best possible chance to perform globally.
Yes, the move is a little disappointing, but there's no reason to be angered by a solid business decision. Universal would not be doing this unless they thought it best for the film. After all, they have a one picture deal, a trial if you will, and they sure as hell want to re-up that deal. They will pull out all the stops to make this big!
One bad film against an whole franchise?
You're correct in a sense, @PanchitoPistoles ... but, as I told you last night, I only know what I have reported to this thread about the shooting date: the official word, still, is March 2019.
The production page for Bond 25 has been UPDATED to include the new release date.
The production page, interestingly enough, HAS NOT changed the filming date of March 2019.
Is that clear? I will keep an eye on this page (that changes according to official word, as they did immediately upon the release date), until filming begins. if you'd like, send me your email and i will send you a screen-shot of this page. It is an official production page.
Haha my pleasure old pal !
My thoughts entirely as you can see above , well said.
By your logic production issues shouldn't be an issue when EoN have plenty of source material to draw from and yet after years of drafts and rewrites the best we can get is miles in mi6, brofeld and the most criminally expensice and pedestrian so called car chase in the series best 60 year history.
Hahaha well played.
“They owe us nothing” is a fine attitude for a business to have. Likewise, I don’t owe them anything, including buying a ticket or one of the never-ending re-releases of the films.
And yet that last part seems to be a sticking point for modern media companies. There is a prevailing attitude of “these idiots will buy whatever we throw out there, so if the quality slips, eh, they’ll still lap it up.”
That’s an attitude businesses tend to have shortly before going out of business.
Times have changed, and this siloed “piss off until we’ve got something good and ready for you” attitude no longer works. Eon’s idea of fan appreciation is a remote museum in Europe and the occasional bit in London. Compare that to other large franchises these days.
If they feel that a couple of people who spend more time getting offended that they aren’t deified than actually sharing news or participating are sufficient, they’re in for a rude awakening. These constant delays and lack of communication (on top of myriad other issues) are only ensuring the fanbase is getting smaller and older. Many of the fans here became Bond fans as kids. That isn’t happening today, which should be cause for concern at any decent operation.
“We are absolutely thrilled to be releasing Bond 25 on 8 April 2020.”
Is April also a worldwide release date or just the UK release date?
In 1985, RM had squeezed out 7 Bond films in 12 years.
In 2020, DC will have done 5 Bond films in 14 years.
The difference is considerable, and I'm not even comparing the DC years to the early SC years or the fast, energetic PB years.
But, and this is just a personal comment, I'm also seeing a consistently high level of quality in the DC Bonds amidst tough commercial competition that the early Connery Bonds, for example, were much less plagued with. They generate clout, good or even great reviews and a lot of money despite the likes of Marvel, Star Wars, FF, M:I, ... biting huge chunks out of film audiences' limited attention span. Furthermore, it has been pointed out to me by knowing members of this forum that we cannot just return to those golden days of one happy Bond family serializing its output at a constant rate. The movie business has grown far more complicated than that; there's simply too much at stake to just keep feeding us material at popular demand. EON isn't capable of doing what Marvel is doing. Even Star Wars, DC and others appear to be struggling to keep up.
I have no doubt that Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson would want nothing more than to produce one Bond film every two years. The fact that they aren't doing exactly that must mean that things have become far more complicated than that. People are screaming bloody murder but these two got 4 Brosnan films made in 7 years time. They rushed QOS into production immediately after CR. These last couple of Bonds seem cursed with setbacks of all sorts, but why would EON be the cause of that?
In any case, I prefer one quality Bond film over two or three weak films spat out in under 5 years. And if that means suffering through delays, reset expectations, meticulous planning and long periods of Internet silence, then that's all just fine by me.
And props to @Pierce2Daniel as well who rightly pointed out this business decision (which is the distributors job-- to exploit the best date(s) possible; this all started because Universal's tentpole film FF was moved to another date (so it wouldn't have to face-off against Mulan; they now had a 5 day weekend slot that was open. They plopped James Bond into that slot (which, personal opinion now, will work better for 007).
Have a great weekend everybody. I thank all the calm heads that prevailed and who saw the machinations of the film business at work (the chess-game of release dates); to the more dramatic of our friends, look around you. There's more to life than B25. Be with a loved one. Go for a walk with the family dog. Lunch with some friends. Have a stiff drink, or smoke a joint. Everything, with Bond, and life, is a-ok...
The sun will rise tomorrow...
Precisely. Plus, in their yesterday report Variey stated that filming will start March 4. So as far as we know the shooting date remains unchanged.