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Which, by the way, turned out one of the greatest films ever, despite production nightmares that dwarf the wildest speculations on this thread.
I wonder if Greg Wilson isn't more responsible. He is in charge of the scripts I believe and I think has been for a while.
Maybe Sean was right?
Thank you Agent Dimi.
Some realities are never a bad thing in movie fandom. And some folk's reactions just boil down to their annoyance at having no tangible details. But because there are less revelations doesn't mean there is nothing to reveal.
No-one wants to make the next Bond film more than the people who already are.
On the flip side, it's interesting to me to think about the Bond scripts that underwent many, many drafts and massive changes. I believe that OHMSS, TSWLM, and GE fall into that category, and most of us would agree that those films turned out all right.
Hell, FRWL went many problem whilst shooting and it's the best of the lot! Calm down chaps. Have a jaffa cake.
I do worry that they are running out of time with Craig. There's only so long production can be pushed back due to script issues before they have to go with what they've got.
In the next two months, just get me a press conference date, initial 2nd unit production stills, anything at this point to confirm we are a go!
BOND 21: Best Bond film ever.
BOND 22: Worst Bond film ever.
BOND 23: Best Bond film ever.
BOND 24: Worst Bond film ever.
BOND 25: Do the math.
Maths... ;)
But then I also feel Goldeneye is looked more highly upon because of the video game tie in then the actual film
Strongly disagree!
@Risico, for changes opening with the gunbarrel is key. After that the film would be irristable.
I am not saying every fan is like that but in a lot of YouTube reviews I always hear “and that game was so fun” it’s like great and I love the novel diamonds are forever but that doesn’t mean I like the movie...
Just like I am sure there are maybe fans who loved the title Quantum of Solace and are sad it was part of such a bad film
I know,i was only joking with you,Richard he he .
First of all, the day EON stops making James Bond films, Bond will simply cease to exist -at least as we know and love him. In the hands of Apple, Amazon, Disney or any of these corporations, all we are going to have is a bunch of "unofficial official" films à la CR'67 or NSNA, only that this time they'll be able to use the James Bond Theme, gunbarrel opening and 007 Gun Symbol Logo (TM). Get ready for spin-offs like Hugo Drax's rotten corpse jamming into the turbine of an X-Wing and that being the integral plot of the Lego-Bond-SW crossover to be released three weeks after Disney gets the Bond rights with a million fanboys in a t-shirt and short pants gasping in awe and applauding. At the same time, get ready for a black, Asian, transgender, extraterrestrial, female Bond now that EON has been cleared out of what they have been doing since 1962 (anyway, most of the anti-EON surely support these ideas). I don't know if MGW or BB may have even considered these cheap wishlists from tabloid columnists who win a lot more than you and me, but even if they did I know they display some kind of judgement and common sense to know this would be a gamble too far and end up rejecting these ideas: notably the "Kill Bond, Now!" Blofeld-esque idea by Danny Boyle. I'm really glad he left.
In the TSWLM chapter of The James Bond Archives (Taschen, 2012), it is revealed that Anthony Burgess' script or treatment for the film, penned by the end of 1974 when the film was set for a Spring 1975 release, wanted to have Bond and Henry Kissinger naked and a boxing kangaroo. Had Cubby not intervened, the film could have reached the release date but it would have flopped and the franchise would be dead and buried. So, I'm thankful for EON for being there and preventing every kind of madness that is now a funny anecdote. Okay, they made and allowed mistakes, but none as the rejected ideas I've seen. And if the delay is because of script polishing (I don't totally reject the idea that this both convenient for both Universal and EON, either) for me they could totally release the film in April or July or November.
On the other hand, I don't want to deal with the definition of what a Bond fan is or not, even when I have my thoughts which are well known by the community and even that alone inspired an article ("I'm flattered!"), but I certainly think Marvel and Star Wars aren't examples to look at. I know how much many of you enjoy and collect and consume these films and the vast merchandising of the films they release every week. But to me, watching Bond (any Bond, any film) will always be like having dinner at the Ritz Hotel while watching the other two would be like eating in McDonald's because I'm in a rush and/or have little money. More than that, I'd only watch Star Wars, Justice League, Iron Man, Batman vs Superman, Superman vs Batman, Superman and Batman vs Captain America and Spiderman if I was bored on a desolated Sunday, had nothing better to do, and I had my ticket paid.
So, these are my two cents. I know some are upset at EON changing once and again the release date and just for that, they want them out. But really, there are far worse things that may affect the franchise than a slight release delay. Be careful what you wish for...
Yes I do.
Kinky....
"I'll leave when the jobs done."
I completely agree. Yes, secrecy is an important part of film making, but EON just hasn't gotten along with the times...
To be honest, I don't really know what people expect at this point? Do people want a detailed list of all the problems and everything that's happening? Well, you're not going to get it because we're fans, not crew.
Yes, other franchises give us tidbits, but not at this stage in production. Just wait for the press conference. Eon do things differently and always have.
But you have to adapt to a changing market and culture. I'm not just talking about updates for this movie. EON must have access to a wealth of material/archives that would help keep up a positive relationship between themselves and the fans.
The last tweet re the date change gave the impression it was from an AI text generator rather than a group of people committed to a great project. And there is no empathy : "sorry to everyone, I know it's hard to wait, it will be worth it" etc etc
"we are thrilled" - marketing is not aimed at them, it's aimed outwards, towards the customer. It comes over as detached and slightly arrogant to be talking about their own emotions rather than ours IMHO.
Obviously, they can't openly discuss recent events re the production but that does not then mean silence.
Summary of recent events with some opinions.
Precisely. Blockbusters had a similar train of thought and look at them now, oh wait...
Agreed, EON's marketing and PR are archaic. Certainly not pulling in a younger crowd by doing this.
The wording of "thrilled" implies that they're excited about the change, and excited about whats to come. Yes, the announcement was brief, but they've got more important things to deal with than giving us an explanation. The announcement for Boyle's departure was just as brief, with no apology and no explanation. It's not needed. The tweet we got gives us everything we need to know. Why apologise for something that at the end of the day is probably gonna do the film a world of good?
Also, I just want add that it's very easy for LucasFilm and Marvel to give us loads of information and tidbits because they have so many properties. Eon deals with one team and one film at a time, if they gave us everything they could, they'd be nothing left for their conference, which is their big press announcement, with all the information we're after and it brings everyone together.
Yes, this lack of worrying is very worrying.