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I wonder how much a three-pager would cost. For a top-line writer, maybe 10-20k?
I’d be surprised if EON didn’t have a few ideas. The longer an incumbent actor’s tenure goes on, the more “offcuts” you’d accumulate that didn’t fit into the current template for whatever reason.
The author makes very reasonable suppositions. I'm not an insider at all, and I don't work in this industry, but I try to follow how films get developed and produced, and it's almost always a convoluted process. Delays can come from somewhat "minor" issues rather than being the symptoms for a huge problem.
For instance, it could be that EON and Fukunaga were a little optimistic in September when they assumed they could start production in March and release the film in February 2020. I don't understand why people would conclude that things have been going sour lately. Let's say, on the contrary, that they finally noticed some big issues with the script that nobody had spotted until then. Like Blofeld as a foster brother-big.
In this kind of production, it's a given that they pay a hefty sum to a series of guys billed as "consultants" to read a draft and to make observations on it. That's one of the tasks of a script doctor. For Bond, they would get asked, under NDA, to read a printed copy in a secure room and to highlight during a meeting what doesn't work and what should be changed. That's an actual skill for script doctors and producers/show runners. Many people can find a script unsatisfying or underwhelming, but few can articulate precisely why. Being able to identify on the spot problems and to give explanations about them is a hugely valued talent, even more if you can also pitch suggestions about how to fix them.
Maybe EON was able to get Burns in London for a day or two. He reads the script, makes his remarks to Michael, Babs and Cary, they nod in approval as he's apparently found the stuff they were circling around previously.
'Hey, you really made a huge impression, could you uphaul the script and put your fixes on it?'
'Yeah, I could be available for four weeks in March.'
'Mmmm... that's not possible, we have to start production in early March. Unless we get another delay, we'll have to pass your suggestions to Neal and Bob.'
Then the F&F9 "miracle" happens, and they revise the schedule to allow Burns to spray his script-doctoring pixie dust all over a new draft.
I'd love a 1964 DB5 in Silver Birch in my garage too, and that's not going to happen either.
Thanks for your appreciation!
Just checked and yep, the boxing kangaroo was there. Here's the exact quote on Burgess' involvement.
Among them was the novelist Anthony Burgess, author of A Clockwork Orange. His rather offbeat treatment and rejected screenplay featured both Bond and Henry Kissinger naked, a plot to blow up the Queen at the Sydney Opera House, and a boxing kangaroo. As a bonus, he also penned lyrics for a potential title song: "The spy who loved me / ceased to be a spy / he shut his spying eye/ to all but me".
My point is that I want EON to hire important filmmakers/writers but they should be supervised. Back then, when Boyle was announced, I started to watch some of his films (I only knew Slumdog Millonaire, which I liked but of course was not Bondian). Trainspotting had some funny bits, but I couldn't understand the praise and overwhelm for it. As for Trance, it was much closer to my tastes and slightly closer to what a Boyle Bond film could be. Yet all the
MGW and BB know there are boundaries between Ian Fleming's Bond and Cubby and Harry's Bond, and their movies are always between these two poles. Someone else with the rights? They'll do whatever they want that sounds commercial (EON also does, but the others would go too far).
Reconstruction of the Boyle/Hodge treatment where Bond was incarcerated for most of the movie...
I’d love all of this, and I still think we may see the bolded happen in B26. The rest, especially the timetable, is unfortunately a pipe dream.
^This. Thank you.
I don't need a happy Bond throughout, with formula points ticked, that is a no-fuss espionage. I want some complexity and layers, though I sure don't want Bond to die (even if left ambigiously a la novel FRWL) or suffer horrendously for the majority of the film. I want the balance the CR has. I want kick ass action (and I do think of John Wick at times when I think of action sequences I love these days). I do want Bond to have his mojo back, in general.
But this film will have an arc, of course - Bond will go thru some things that may well change him a bit, and I want a solid ending that is satisfying. Ending with a great girl and some Taittinger at hand? OK if it doesn't feel tacked on. Ending with him in silhouette? I'm okay with that too. Just give me a great adventure, with some seriousness and some humor ... and again we see how the script is critical. I don't mind the delay to finish the writing if it's going to produce more quality for this film. I like EON caring enough to push this. And I still trust this director.
So I'm fine with it being a slightly "different" kind of Bond film. CR was. And Skyfall was, too. Just my opinion and what I am thinking of what would be satisfying for me.
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/02/18/bond-25-will-die-another-day
I absolutely love the reply to this first comment,
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IrvingForbush
14 hours ago
Here's a bold thought. Why not write a script for a movie you're excited to make, then decide when that movie should come out?
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Davis McArdle IrvingForbush
12 hours ago
Because it's called Show Business, not Show Art?
- Copyright Jean Seberg, 1960something
I’d argue that it’s SP. But it wasn’t executed so well.
It actually has a lot of traditional elements to it. Took a while for me to realize it.
Fine by me. If only they could replicate what made QOS great for B25
I don't really get this. The Sony leaks more than anything exposed what a doo-doo show the SP preproduction was and all the bs drama that shouldn't have even happened anyway. If anything, now, it just looks like EoN have something to hide and with the factors instrumental to the delays we're getting for Bond 25 it seems like they haven't really learned their lesson. No other film studio/production company are being this obsessively secretive and closed off. I'm not expecting and not do I need full and continuous transparency of EVERYTHING they're doing. I'd rather they just get on with things and get sh1t done. However, EoN need to offer more interaction than what they're doing now to actually have a relationship with the fan base. The only continuous thing keeping Bond in the fabric of public interest is the never ending discussion from bored media outlets is, who the he'll should be the next Bond. That crap doesn't count.
100% but EoN need to understand the concept of a 2 way relationship between themselves and the fans. A near 60 years of movies is no excuse to be so distant and absent. As displayed on this website alone Bond fans are fiercely loyal, some even to a worrying degree but the loyalty and interest is there. EoN are relying too heavily on the Bond name and expecting people to flood the BO with their cash. In this day and age with the business model they're using, it's not reliably sustainable and then they'll be wondering wtf happened.
Most members of the GA have an interest level of "Is Idris the new Bond?" to "Are they doing another one?" to "Whatever." at this point
What would your solution be? What is it that we should expect at this juncture?
Well, Star Wars Ep. IX just finished filming and we don't know even the bloody title. Speaking about being secretive... We, as Bond fans, are able to know the title of the movie, the complete official cast and crew plus all the locations featured in the movie even before production officially start.
Complaining just for the sake of complaining. I can understand the anxiety since the last Bond came out in 2015 with all the troubles this production experienced with a lot of time wasted with Boyle. But we can't expect EoN is goin to share something with the fans at this stage.
BTW, 13 days until filming officially begins.
XD
https://mobile.twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1097668913016389632
Well, since the production is still supposed to be starting in less than 2 weeks, at least "officially", it makes sense to some scoop to drop. Hopefully, regarding people joining the ship, not abandon it. XD
Agreed
Regardless we will all know things soon my hope is we all love the info given. Personally if Bond 25 is The Hildebrand Rarity I don’t care that we had this many false starts and no games to tide us over... what can I say it’s my favorite Fleming title (I choose my user name because I firmly believe before I die I will see a bond film titled Risico not so much with The Hildebrand Rarity)
The only studios that aren't as secretive are Marvel and DC, so I'll explain this again, they can do this because they have so many films, TV shows and so on under their belt, that they can pretty much give us announcements or updates every goddamn today. Again, James Bond is one property and one film, if they gave us stuff at the same rate as Marvel or DC, we'd have nothing left to talk about when the film comes out.
This is why they have the press conference, which no other studio does. No other studio has one day where they give us all the important information we need to know, before going off to film. Also, we get videoblogs and press release all once filming's start, and filming hasn't started, so you're asking for too much, too early. I get what you're asking for, but it doesn't work for what Eon Productions is and will always be. An independent studio that deals with one property of one property only.
It means something to superfans, but to everyone else it sounds like a black and white art film. Further, how do you translate that title for foreign markets?
I think we're in for more of the formula: (always/never)+(die/kill/say/sleep)+(midnight/forever/tomorrow/yesterday).
After complanes some fans and media about QOS vs Bourne, i am surprised there be no complanes yet about this Bourne Ultimatum writer.
So mabey finaly Dominic Greene words get green light / going to live with Eon hiring this writer.
I like the mirror ending of Contagion. I like ocean'13 more then Ocean'12.
My second view of Bourne Ultimatum in 2016 whas litle bit better then my first view in 2011. When i look back to my litle review from 2011 then i whas even about the disapointed humor with both movies (Bourne 2 & 3), but lucky we stil have P&W for that. Ultimatum have more action, more and easier dialgue and better mixed sound in music then Bourne 2. Soundmix of Spectre in cinema whas a lot better then Skyfall. Ultimatum has more flaschbacks and better interaction with the girl. What some people claimd to Bourne 2 and QOS (i a disagree with ) i see more in this one is more camera problems and story part of Bourne 2 is better. I always see this as problem that happend because the movie whas released with to much time in between, whyle you get almoost simalar movie. A problem i also think happend between TDK and TDKR / SF and Spectre. Of course i hint to almoost 5 years break between Spectre and Bond 25.
Intresting will happend with difrence between Bond and Bourne in the fact that Bourne knows what he doing in Ultimatum, whyle Bond has tricker finger more like Bourne have in Bourne 2.
I always believe that Bond tricker finger will be reloaded some day.
I don't really see that as a disqualifier. (And again, I doubt anyone but superfans noticed or registered that.)