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@Ottofuse8 This is beyond reactionary. You haven't seen the film yet! It might work really well. We will all have to wait and see.
Not only has the child seen Bond kill her father but she's grown up around violence. Perhaps the Bond girl decides that they have to take the child, but Bond is reluctant. He'd probably despise having this child around mainly as it's an ugly reminder that he murdered her father.
Slowly, a connection develops between the two and Bond begins to care deeply for the child as he sees aspects of himself in her. The isolation, the loneliness. in due course, he become a very reluctant surrogate father.
Maybe Bond, Madeline and the child make an uncomfortable family unit....
In that version, Blofeld was a code name. The African warlord had a separate name.
That's what Logan was hired to do originally.
Missed opportunity. Hopefully, it can still be done in the future.
This could be an option. I am looking forward to more news and theories from the members of the forum. This is my favourite part, when we all draw our own conclusions based on the same information. I think it highlights just how many options the writers and EON have in making a Bond film.
Very interesting idea @Pierce2Daniel, and a concept I'd be interested in seeing on screen in some shape or form, but for me personally, it doesn't feel like a James Bond film. Of course, we should appreciate each addition to the franchise as it's own thing, but this just seems to far from what James Bond is. I'll be honest it sounds more like something Hollywood would give to Liam Neeson... obviously not now but you get where I'm coming from.
But at the end of the day, I could be wrong. I've been proven wrong before, and I'll wait to pass my judgement on this idea of a 'child' in Bond 25 when I've seen the film. I could very well eat my words, but I've just been waiting so long for a return-to-form 007. While I understand that having Madeleine Swann return gives us the impression that those personal stakes from Spectre are to be carried over, but I just think there's ways you can bring her back and still have a classic 007 mission.
To me, bringing a child into the equation just throws my expectations of that completely out the window, but again, I could be serving my own words for dinner on April 8, 2020. Still an interesting idea though, maybe you should write this version yourself, I'd be happy to read it.
This is indeed very bad. Mathis a codename was bad enough. Blofeld as a codename is one step above Bond as a codename.
Thank you. I have not seen any of that art. Some things stood out immediately:
1. Plans for the PTS to be set at night. That would have been bad@ass.
2. One of the ideas for the boat chase was through underground sewers? This would have worked better than what we got.
3. What is with the house at the bottom of that cavern? What is the cavern?
4. The large screens, showing Spectre activity was quite cool. Missed opportunity there. Also, the concept art did a better job of illustrating what the "observatory" was used for.
yeah great stuff really cool art
Spectre had so much potential but it was handled poorly
But I'm keeping an open mind. Maybe they're doing a reverse YOLT: Bond sees his wife and child killed (dark!), then he rightly loses his mind and the rest of the film is his revenge on Blofeld.
If it’s present day, the question arises of the child’s significance to the plot, and their possible continued involvement. A child in Bond’s world could feel very out of place, but if Bond is tasked with protecting the child it might be interesting. While I’m not a fan of brutal revenge stories, brutality in the defense of life, especially the life of a child, is something I could possibly get behind. Bond fiercely defending the child from attackers might be an interesting plot point.
Still all sounds like more melodrama though.
the amount of time they are taking it is clear this is his finale
Danjaq (Eon's holding company) doesn't own the adaptation rights to the continuations. The full rights belong to the estate of Ian Fleming. The deal between Danjaq and Ian Fleming only applies to the material written by Fleming.
@HildebrandRarity not to argue with your statement but just to ask a curious question how they have rights to get colonal sun in Spectre then they must have some rights for that do be included in the torture scene with a film credit?
I wonder how much of it came down to cost.
@TripAces probably a lot it was already getting up there in production cost but they could have worked around the costs
It's an interesting question. I'm sure MGW is smart enough to have bought up all the film rights to the continuation novels, and that Eon has the sole right to the James Bond character in films, TV, etc. Otherwise, they could easily have a competition like OP/NSNA again. (There are enough former Bonds now to launch a competing film, and the fact that we haven't seen one speaks volumes.)
Yeah, there must be some kind of mutual understanding for both parties to allow for mutual inspiration. Plots from both the continuation books and the films based on an original script will always share some DNA, and it would be difficult for them not to have similarities. So, the Fleming estate and Eon may not sue each other unless it's blatant plagiary from one side.
I haven't read Colonel Sun, and I wasn't aware that so many plot elements from it had been used on TWINE and Spectre. That said, Wikipedia explains that the Fleming estate asked for royalties on DAD if the production was to name the villain Colonel Sun Liang-tan, as originally planned.
Colonel Sun may also be under a separate deal, given that it was a one-off continuation long before the Fleming estate decided to resume the book series for good. It looks like that they're allowed to reuse plot elements without any major issue, that dialogue requires a courtesy credit for Amis, but that the characters introduced in CS belong to the Fleming estate and require rights clearance.
Danjaq/EON doesn't own the film rights to these novels, but the Fleming estate must be forbidden to sell them to another party. You see, that's the very kind of issues that wasn't really explored at the time CS was published ("Okay, we'll just write some contract amendment for this book"), but that became heavily formalized and regulated by lawyers in the eighties when new novels started to be published on a more regular base. Danjaq and the estate may strike a deal if they wanted to adapt one specific novel, but there's not an all-encompassing deal. And it's most likely for the better. Any writer commissioned to work on a Bond continuation will only have to work with the literary Bond rather than making a pitch for a new film.
No, they didn't. I read both, and the final script was almost on point. (I liked the idea of both Bond and Q being captured in the lair, though)
NEW BOND FILM: At Langvann in Nordmarka, on the border between Oslo and Nittedal, a house is being built that will probably be used in the recording of a James Bond movie.
NEW BOND FILM: At Langvann in Nordmarka, on the border between Oslo and Nittedal, a house is being built that will probably be used in the recording of a James Bond movie. Photo: Håkon Mosvold Larsen (NTB scanpix)
Cottage owners in Romerike have received a letter stating that filming will take place in the area in March / April.
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Romerikes Blad has gained access to documents showing an application the production company Truenorth Norway has sent to the Labor Inspection Authority on behalf of B25 Limited. The documents confirm that parts of the 25th James Bond movie will be recorded at Romerike.
Nettavisen has previously mentioned the rumors that the new Bond movie will record some scenes in Nittedal. So it looks like this actually happens.
The admission will take place from 25 to 31 March 2019, writes Per Henry Borch, line producer at Truenorth Norway AS in the application, according to RB.
Describes scenes at Langvann
The online newspaper knows that cabin owners in the area have been notified that the road to the film camp at Langvann will be closed a week in March, possibly in March / April.
The documents also include one of the movie scenes to be recorded, and it has been named "girl running on snow and iced water", according to RB. How to describe the scene:
«A child shoots an intruder. She is chased by a 2nd intruder and runs onto a frozen lake.
The fact that the film recording will take place at Langvann in Nittedal, RB believes has revealed that the documents sent to the Norwegian Labor Inspection Authority show an attached map section that is identical to a satellite image of the area at Langvann.
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In the applications RB has been granted access, the name B25 Limited goes back several times in the document. The James Bond 007 logo also appears on several of the pages.
- I do not know that application. This I have to investigate with those in the office and come back to you, says Per Henry Borch to Romerikes Blad on Monday night, despite the fact that the application concludes with "mr.
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ok very interesting
If we get a flashback in Bond 25, I would not be surprised. I already expected a little of that perhaps. This will connect to Spectre, I felt sure of that awhile ago when Lea was confirmed. But it can be connected if so many different ways, and if flashbacks could be brief or more substantial. I expect Bond 25 to go into Bond's psyche and personal life picking up from Spectre. But ... that could be 5 years after, two hours after, so many different angles.
What I want is a compelling, sound (realistic as to what this Bond would be a part of) exciting and rather plausible story. I am not diminished in my excitement to see what Cary can put on the screen visually. If
It's tricky to know when to back off of this thread. I was relatively unspoiled when I saw Skyfall and Spectre in the theatre. And I so appreciated that - it was fresh, exciting as it unrolled on the screen. I want that again. But I'm not leaving here yet. SPOILER TAGS are appreciated. Just hard to discern original source or actual or very likely true news when I come here and find so many pages to catch up on.
Exciting, though, isn't it? It's getting nearer and so real!
I am just wondering if EON would ever use another/external casting company?
Rough Google translation - not sure if they mean't Lea's daughter or a young Lea?
For the filming of a feature film with Léa Seydoux, casting director is looking for the following profile:
- a 12-year-old girl (age 10 to 14), blonde with blue eyes.
It will be to interpret Léa Seydoux child. Physical resemblance is very important. Your daughter must be athletic, with character and confidence. The child will have to know how to swim and be comfortable in the water. Important role.
It is not necessary to have experience to apply. The casting will take place in Paris in January.
Please apply by sending the following:
- recent color photos
- surname, first name, date of birth, size, class
- full contact details of the parents
Mention "Lea Seydoux child"