No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited June 2016 Posts: 4,399
    Bounine wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Clive Owen was the odds on favorite at the time - the obvious choice according to the mainstream media...

    but as we should all know by now, if it's too obvious a choice, it's highly unlikely to happen.

    Does this mean that Hiddleston won't get the part, should Craig step down?

    Hiddleston said a while back that he'd never been approached by Eon. Now, the media is saying that he is in final talks. Have we heard anything from Hiddleston himself since this initial comment?

    i find it a little hard to believe that EON would just hand over the role without the FRWL test - and going through a short list of replacements, along with Hiddleston...... it's possible that they've already gone through this step, and have whittled it down to Tom - but his name has been the only one mentioned in recent memory as to having meetings with EON........

    my personal belief, and i could be wrong - is that out of respect to Dan, they wouldn't be in final stages with a possible new actor without first announcing that Daniel wont return.... when Pierce was let go - it was made official by both Pierce and EON well before casting commenced - it's not like they went "We've decided to let Pierce go in favor of Daniel Craig." ......... could preliminary talks be going on, just so they have their bases covered with someone to test in case Dan does walk - sure.. but i don't think anything serious is going on, yet...

    they just aren't going to announce Dan not returning and his replacement at the same time, or close to the same time..

    unless it's all just a formality, and that behind closed doors they know Dan isn't coming back - but have just not made the announcement public yet... but that makes no sense..
  • Posts: 6,601
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Those short engagements run for about 3 months. No such thing as one month.

    even for Off Broadway productions?... because Othello is technically not Broadway, but Off Broadway.

    I predict it to play from December till February. Then a break, Purity starts and IF he wanted, he COUD start Bond in Nov/December. I higly doubt, they will start in January, as even with a Nov start, its a very tied post production schedule. They won't make it any shorter.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited June 2016 Posts: 4,399
    Germanlady wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Those short engagements run for about 3 months. No such thing as one month.

    even for Off Broadway productions?... because Othello is technically not Broadway, but Off Broadway.

    I predict it to play from December till February. Then a break, Purity starts and IF he wanted, he COUD start Bond in Nov/December. I higly doubt, they will start in January, as even with a Nov start, its a very tied post production schedule. They won't make it any shorter.

    on the average, Bond films typically begin production in January of the year it's due out - at least since i've been following productions since Die Another Day.. they always seem to start right around then - give or take a month or so...

    GE principal start date: Jan. 16, 1995
    TND principal start date: Apr. 1, 1997
    TWINE principal start date: (unknown)
    DAD principal start date: Jan. 11, 2002
    CR principal start date: Jan. 3, 2006
    QOS principal start date: Jan. 3, 2008
    SF principal start date: Nov. 7, 2011
    SP principal start date: Dec. 8, 2014

    ....also keep in mind, it depends on the size of the film as well.. do they go the same size as SP or larger?.. or do they scale back?... they've operated on the schedule before
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I still want Daniel for one more.
    I never enjoyed the thought of Clive Owen as Bond, so quite relieved he did not get it.
    We are still in limbo land, basically ...

    Do you think all this constant, unrelenting fanning the rumors about "the next Bond" is actually giving Daniel Craig a bit of a breather? I'm trying to see if there is any of that to it ... the world assumes he is gone and chatter about "next" (more than usual, I know it's been ongoing) so he just gets on with his life for awhile. Then returns for one more, as final. That is my positive best case scenario, anyway.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 6,601
    IMO they won't go back to January. Those films have the tendency to grow larger by scale, FEEL they have to compete more and more and hence, its takes longer to shoot those bugger. Even if they scale it back a bit, its too much of a pressure to have it ready. Its doable, but why would they?

    Also, they wanted to start Sp in October.

    IF we make the maths for DC - he is able and willing to work a very tied schedule as he has done in 2009/2010. I guess, its all a matter of how much he is interested in something. If he really wants it, he will work day and night.

    Again, in my mind, he is out.
    BUT - the guy has a temper. IF he feels annoyed enough by now with all the speculation and bs in the press about him, he might just do it to show them the middle finger. ;)
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Exactly. I'm hoping that happens, whatever it takes, Germanlady. ;)
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    I still want Daniel for one more.
    I never enjoyed the thought of Clive Owen as Bond, so quite relieved he did not get it.
    We are still in limbo land, basically ...

    Do you think all this constant, unrelenting fanning the rumors about "the next Bond" is actually giving Daniel Craig a bit of a breather? I'm trying to see if there is any of that to it ... the world assumes he is gone and chatter about "next" (more than usual, I know it's been ongoing) so he just gets on with his life for awhile. Then returns for one more, as final. That is my positive best case scenario, anyway.

    i dont think he gives it much thought.... i mean, he's been badgered about who will succeed him since he first got the role with CR (i almost feel like he'd be a bit embittered about the whole situation, that he was probably never fully accepted as Bond, or appreciated - i know i would be if i was constantly asked who is going to replace me).... but back to the issue....... i personally don't think he cares one way or the other.. i think he is just going about his life/career as he always has, what the media decides to do is what they'll do, he can't control that........... what i am almost 100% positive on, is that he is not jerking anyone over at EON around to put them over a barrel.. when he comes to a decision and feels comfortable about it - he'll let them know..

    for me, i am 50/50 on him returning or not - this time last year, i was probably 90% convinced he'd be coming back.... it's just the lack of news leads to speculation, and speculation often can lead to doubt.... but if a gun were put to my head right now, and i had to make a decision - i would say that he is coming back, but only for one last one, not two.
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    No, never two.

    But I do believe, that he got a LOT of appreciation during his run and was fuly accepted. How many times did we read, that many considered him to be even the best Bond ever. He can't complasin about that IMO. But he is a tricky individual, who often gets in his own way. ;)
  • Posts: 2,081
    Bounine wrote: »
    "He can afford to not work on anything ever, if he so chooses to, so whatever he might now get paid for one job is highly unlikely to have the slightest impact on his interest to do or not do another job."

    @Tuulia Lucky man. I should have continued with my acting classes. ;) Nah, I got tired of them after a while.

    Well, it's possible to get to A list and millions in the bank and even Oscars and all without classes, so maybe you should have kept at acting, just forgotten the classes... :)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Look at this at around 3m20s, apparently Stallone, Keaton, Schwarzenegger, Emma Thompson and Sharon Stone had good odds from bookmakers to become Bond instead of Brosnan.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    HASEROT wrote: »
    i find it a little hard to believe that EON would just hand over the role without the FRWL test - and going through a short list of replacements, along with Hiddleston...... it's possible that they've already gone through this step, and have whittled it down to Tom - but his name has been the only one mentioned in recent memory as to having meetings with EON........
    In my personal opinion, as I said before somewhere, I don't think he needs to do the FRWL test. To my eyes at least, he's more than proven he can handle James Bond from the work I've seen him in to date. The most comfortable fit I've seen in some time. That doesn't mean it will be him of course. Not by a long shot.

    It's quite probable that the discussions, if they in fact took place, were just preliminary introductions to feel each other out, discuss interest, and understand early schedules. If Hiddle is a contender, given his increasing popularity, they would need to give him a heads up so that he ensures he doesn't sign on for anything big. We talk about Craig's schedule, but we should consider the potential replacement's as well.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 9,843
    http://www.theportlygazelle.com/2016/05/29/31-year-old-british-actor-theo-james-confirmed-as-the-new-bond/

    Uhm yeah this was posted elsewhere on the site I am pretty sure it's 110% false but at this rate who knows
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited June 2016 Posts: 10,591
    "His first Bond film will be released in February 2017." What kind of hard drug is this reporter on?

  • Posts: 9,843
    Perhaps it's Elliot Carver having fun with his headlines
  • Posts: 6,601
    As we can see even here, people tend to believe the most absurd things as long as they are wirtten down.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Perhaps it's Elliot Carver having fun with his headlines

    Delicious.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
    edited June 2016 Posts: 2,541
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  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    jake24 wrote: »
    "His first Bond film will be released in February 2017." What kind of hard drug is this reporter on?
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Perhaps it's Elliot Carver having fun with his headlines

    :)) =))
  • Posts: 9,843
    For my money Craig will be back for 2 more.... At least that is my hope because as an actor there is still juicy stuff in Fleming to go through and do.
  • Posts: 4,408
    Aidan Turner is the new favourite after a slew of bets have been placed on him.

    http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/showbiz/why/

    Personally, I think Turner has the edge that Hiddleston lacks. he also fits the the Eon mould of an actor who has had success internationally but is mostly known to UK audiences. Additionally, he isn't too famous.

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    I think it's almost certain that we'll get a new Bond now. Purity is a huge commitment for Craig. If they shoot the entire show in 2017 (which I doubt), it won't likely air till later that year or sometime in 2018 and into 2019. It's likely the show's production schedule will involve a large amount of filming in both 2017 and 2018. This means Craig won't be completely available till 2019 at the earliest

    If he was still committed to doing a 5th Bond, which many people still believe he is contractually, Eon would have had to sign-off on Purity. Clearly, he's dancing to the beat of his own drum.

    I remember back when Craig was going to do 'Dragon Tattoo', it had to be cleared by Eon as it was a potentially a new franchise with long-term commitments that could get in the way of his Bond duties.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @Mendes4Lyfe, you gotta see this! :D
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited June 2016 Posts: 8,392
    Aidan Turner is the new favourite after a slew of bets have been placed on him.

    http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/showbiz/why/

    Personally, I think Turner has the edge that Hiddleston lacks. he also fits the the Eon mould of an actor who has had success internationally but is mostly known to UK audiences. Additionally, he isn't too famous.

    b6820732ca855f0024a64719e226b07f.jpg
    GettyImages-505901148.jpg

    I think it's almost certain that we'll get a new Bond now. Purity is a huge commitment for Craig. If they shoot the entire show in 2017 (which I doubt), it won't likely air till later that year or sometime in 2018 and into 2019. It's likely the show's production schedule will involve a large amount of filming in both 2017 and 2018. This means Craig won't be completely available till 2019 at the earliest

    If he was still committed to doing a 5th Bond, which many people still believe he is contractually, Eon would have had to sign-off on Purity. Clearly, he's dancing to the beat of his own drum.

    I remember back when Craig was going to do 'Dragon Tattoo', it had to be cleared by Eon as it was a potentially a new franchise with long-term commitments that could get in the way of his Bond duties.

    AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!
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    Sigh I just don't get the big deal with him he is just feels like Brosnan 2.0
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    For me, the most clear indication that Craig has chosen to move on is the tv series. I don't see EON wanting their Bond actor to be starring in a tv series at the same time that he is the incumbent Bond. Has that ever happened before?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Sigh I just don't get the big deal with him he is just feels like Brosnan 2.0
    You're insulting the Brosnan fans. There are Brosnan fans out there. ;)
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    bondjames wrote: »
    For me, the most clear indication that Craig has chosen to move on is the tv series. I don't see EON wanting their Bond actor to be starring in a tv series at the same time that he is the incumbent Bond. Has that ever happened before?

    As of TV being not good enough? IMO the acceptance of TV as a major player has grown a lot since the Brosnan days.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    For me, the most clear indication that Craig has chosen to move on is the tv series. I don't see EON wanting their Bond actor to be starring in a tv series at the same time that he is the incumbent Bond. Has that ever happened before?

    As of TV being not good enough? IMO the acceptance of TV as a major player has grown a lot since the Brosnan days.
    Indeed it has. I just don't see EON going for this. Not while the actor is still Bond. Before or after, sure. Just my opinion.
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    Like I said before I don't think Eon cares what Craig does as long as they can get him for Bond 25. BB run EON is nothing like Cubby run EON. Craig can go into porn and I don't think BB would care as long as Craig is back for Bond 25
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    For me, the most clear indication that Craig has chosen to move on is the tv series. I don't see EON wanting their Bond actor to be starring in a tv series at the same time that he is the incumbent Bond. Has that ever happened before?

    As of TV being not good enough? IMO the acceptance of TV as a major player has grown a lot since the Brosnan days.
    Indeed it has. I just don't see EON going for this. Not while the actor is still Bond. Before or after, sure. Just my opinion.

    I don't see this as being a negative for EoN. TV, right now, is where all the juicy bits are for actors. Some consider it a new Golden Age.

    If Dan's still the man in the tux, BB could have her guy in a slick and critically acclaimed series (a la True Detective Season One), his face will be everywhere, just as he's gearing up for Bond 25. She doesn't spend a dime on publicity, and her man will be everywhere in 2017/18.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    peter wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    For me, the most clear indication that Craig has chosen to move on is the tv series. I don't see EON wanting their Bond actor to be starring in a tv series at the same time that he is the incumbent Bond. Has that ever happened before?

    As of TV being not good enough? IMO the acceptance of TV as a major player has grown a lot since the Brosnan days.
    Indeed it has. I just don't see EON going for this. Not while the actor is still Bond. Before or after, sure. Just my opinion.

    I don't see this as being a negative for EoN. TV, right now, is where all the juicy bits are for actors. Some consider it a new Golden Age.

    If Dan's still the man in the tux, BB could have her guy in a slick and critically acclaimed series (a la True Detective Season One), his face will be everywhere, just as he's gearing up for Bond 25. She doesn't spend a dime on publicity, and her man will be everywhere in 2017/18.
    I'm not arguing with any of this. I watch more tv than I do movies these days and think some of the product is truly exceptional. I just still don't see EON going for it. I don't think it was done without their knowledge. I think there's more going on than we know, and it's all amicable actually. Again, just my view.
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